I want Matt Kalil!

by IndyColts89 on Oct 27, 2011 12:20 PM EDT

Before everyone yells at me about how we just drafted a LT last year let me explain.

I will make two quick assumptions - I believe Manning will come back next year and be healthy and I think we will win two games which will lead to Miami ending up having the number 1 pick.

With Manning coming back, the front office (Polians or whoever) will want to max protect Manning so he doesn't go down with another injury. It makes more sense to me to go with someone proven (Manning) over someone who everyone THINKS will be good (Luck, Landry Jones, etc.)

Matt Kalil is a stud and as close to a can't miss prospect as you can get. If we draft him at #2 then our line would be:

LT - Matt Kalil

LG - 3rd Round Pick

C - Saturday (Resign him to a 1 year deal)

RG - Ben Iljalana

RT - Anthony Castonzo

The great thing about moving Castonzo to the RT spot is that he would not only be solid there (many analyst thought it was his best spot) and it would give us depth for the LT spot if Kalil had an injury.

After the jump, is a look at how the roster could possibly look.

Colt Free Agents

Reggie Wayne (Gone - Not preferred, but I think he will ask for too much money for an aging WR)

Pierre Garcon and Robert Mathis (Resigned - I would franchise Mathis if I had to)

Philip Wheeler, Ernie Sims, and Jamaal Anderson (Resign for one year deals)

Anthony Gonzalez, Jacob Tamme, Ryan Diem, Jamey Richard, Jacob Lacey, Mike Pollack, and Tyler Brayton (Not resigned)

Free Agents to Sign

Matt Flynn - QB for Green Bay. If Manning is healthy, then it makes sense to sign someone who has the potential to develop into a starting quarterback in case Manning gets hurt again or even for the potential future.

Robert Meachem - WR for New Orleans. I think Meachem could be an incredible WR for our team and is very similar to Reggie in size, route running, and speed; plus he's younger.

Tracy Porter - CB for New Orleans. I know there are potentially better CB's that will be available, but I think it is realistic that we could get Porter and that he would be a major upgrade for our CB's to team with Powers.

So, here is how our lineup could look:

QB - Manning, Flynn, and Painter

RB - Addai, Carter, Brown, and Evans

WR - Garcon, Meachem, Collie, White, and 5th Round pick

OT - Shown above

TE - Clark, Eldridge, 7th Round pick, and J. Snow

DL - Freeney, Mathis, 2nd Round pick DT, Nevis, Moala, A. Johnson, J. Hughes (who knows a new coach could help), and Anderson

LB - Angerer, Brackett, Conner, Moten, Sims, Wheeler

CB - Powers, Porter, Thomas, Rucker, and 6th Round pick

S - Bethea, Bullitt, Lefeged, and 4th Round pick

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.

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You assume Ben will be good as a guards?! If he is why they didn’t put him there in the first place…
Also Anthony is a better LT than RT in my opinion. Colts just need few stud guards.
Free agency or draft

by Nojan on Oct 27, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

you have a point there...

but in the small time Ben played he outplayed Linkenbach and he was the one starting… moral of the story: don’t trust our coaching staff talent evaluation (see also jacob lacey)

we could have a franchise LT on castonzo, but Kalil is a player you simply can’t pass on a draft… if we are 1st its either luck or trade down, if we’re 2nd kalil is a no-brainer imo at this point…

by Mvbastos on Oct 27, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree.

If we are first I would shop the pick for a kings ransom. I would try to get all I could out of a team like Miami just like the Eli and Rivers deal. We draft Luck, trade him to Miami for their 1st round pick, where we draft Kalil, also want Brandon Marshall or Vontae Davis maybe go after both, their 3rd round pick this year and their 1st round pick next year. That way we fix holes we have now and don’t have to wait for a player to develop. We would have the best OL in football. They would make any running back we have look good. I say if Manning does come back, then so does Wayne. It would take too long for Manning to develop the timing and relationship with another receiver like he has with Wayne. I am not a Garcon fan just because of the inconsistant play and Bullitt is to fragile at this point to keep taking chances. Wayne, Marshall, Collie, and Clark would be a great line up. Davis and Powers would be solid corners. I like our LB’s and DE’s right now as long as Mathis does come back. I would use the 2nd and 3rd round picks on a safety, DT, or center, best available at those positions. Then 4-7 just take best available player left on the board no matter position. Just wishful thinking on my part, but could be a reality of played correctly.

by Colts Forever on Oct 27, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Nice

This is one of the better ideas I’ve heard. If this is at all possible, this would be our best shot at winning now….. Or next season anyway. I mean I here all these people wanting to burn Peyton because they think he’ll never be the same. But, did anyone see the look on his face during that f-ing game Sunday night. He was beyond pissed….. When he comes back he’s gonna be there to prove a point. As we all know when “The Sheriff” sets his sights on something he always achieves his goal. But, I think we can draft another QB later and under Peyton he would become as good as what Luck is now.

by L. Mc on Oct 27, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

no

any deal that has us taking luck and trading him is stupid

especially a deal that brings brandon marshall to the team. wtf was that? a joke

by omahacolt on Oct 29, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Garcon vs Marshall.

Pierre is two years younger, putting up better numbers with fewer drops this year, and doesn’t have a diagnosed mental disorder.

How does he do it?

by It's Magc on Oct 29, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I believe the second pick will also be QB. Best situation is to trade down and load up

by Nojan on Oct 27, 2011 1:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Barkley?

I am not sold on him as a top 5 pick. If the Colts don’t take Luck or Kalil then they have to trade and load up on picks. They could still get Blackmon at WR, Randall DT from Texas, or Lester S from Alabama around pick 15-20 or so. Depending on what picks/players they would be able to trade their pick for they can look at DB late first round or early second. I am just curious to see how they manage free agency and the 2012 draft. I have a feeling Polian will take a reach on some one in the first round that nobody has on their radar just to try to prove a point. Just my thoughts.

by Colts Forever on Oct 28, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes Barkley!! I know he doesn't deserve to be top 5. But QB s always do. Someone will jump at number 2 to steal him from teams at number 3 or 4

by Nojan on Oct 28, 2011 9:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Maybe you two can decide after watching them play each other today.

"The number 2" Projected Colts wins and number of students from Tennessee attending Vanderbilt.

by PV Mike on Oct 29, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions

Tracy Porter's career is in decline, in big part because of injuries to his thin body.

by Ty46 on Oct 27, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions

Do not mention his name of this site.

We all still have nightmares even though he went to IU.

"The number 2" Projected Colts wins and number of students from Tennessee attending Vanderbilt.

by PV Mike on Oct 27, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions

did you read my post :)

you and I agree on several points. i don’t get why people are bagging on the matt flynn fa pick up from green bay. the guy was on fire against NE, learned from a top flight QB AND coordinators plus was a ncaa winner. he is more proven then a college qb with NO nfl experience and we can use picks on other needs. he will be the sleeper qb fa pick up and hope the fans start the chant since like you i think we need to build a TEAM and need to trade down in the draft and keep getting extra picks. the difference is I believe with the top pick we select Brandon Thompson DT Clemson or Vontaze Burfict MIB Arizona State. Yes we have Angerer but just making tackles is not game changing plays and this kid, hot head yes, has the attitude and destructive nature colts fans have wanted for years.

by Straight Out The Burbs on Oct 27, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions

Do Not Take Burfict!!!

The dude is a nutcase! unless you want the colts getting getting called for personal fouls and unsportsmanlike conduct all the time

by khaostheory117 on Oct 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions

+1

"The number 2" Projected Colts wins and number of students from Tennessee attending Vanderbilt.

by PV Mike on Oct 28, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions

if you wanna go LB...

Check out T’eo from ND that guy is great

by BleedingBlueAndWhite on Oct 28, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Tank Carder out of TCU wouldn't be a bad choice either

by khaostheory117 on Oct 29, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions

flynn wants to start

he will get that chance. he isnt coming to indy to be a backup

by omahacolt on Oct 29, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree with Matt Kalil

But Melvin Bullitt will be released unless he takes a pay cut. I see the colts taking CB and Safety with their 2nd and 3rd picks. This team cant make the playoffs next year if they dont do something about the secondary. The Colts also dont like to go after free agents.

by SRBradford on Oct 27, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Kalil

I like it, I’m in support of this suggestion. Except 1 thing, Mike Pollak. I do not agree of releasing him. Have you watched him this year? He’s played wonderfully for the injured Ryan Diem. OK yea, he missed a few blocks, and he could’ve played better, but I believe he’s a natural C and shouldn’t be playing G. I’d like to have Pollak resigned to a 2 year contract. Saturday has at most 1 year left, then I’d like to see Pollak at C.

And as for Tracy Porter…look, it ain’t happening. I doubt FO would approach him and I doubt Porter will come here to Indy. But there are other good CBs like Rashean Mathis and Brent Grimes. And LaRon Landry is set to become a free agent. Though not a cover-2 safety, I think he can adjust accordingly.

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by KBUnitz on Oct 27, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

lol....hahhahahhahhahhahha

pollak ahs played wonderfully? ahhahhahaha. you have never seen good football before. pollak is a very bad football player. it doesnt matter if he is a guard or center

by omahacolt on Oct 29, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions

There is one major flaw to your reasoning

Let’s say the Colts have the very first pick in next years draft. How would they be able to get Flynn in free agency knowing they can’t pass on Luck? Unlike last year free agency will happen before the draft, like in years past. Most teams, say Miami wouldn’t have to worry about the Colts selection, especially if their sitting there with the next pick. The idea of this only works if we don’t have the number 1 pick. I do enjoy where your heading with this but there are flaws to it.

by Next Man Up on Oct 27, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions

idk

something tells me the colts will not have the first pick. i see them splitting against TEN and JAX and “upsetting” houston which will lead to kubiak getting fired. they will end up with the 3rd pick which of course will really push some colts fans over the cliff as they will either have to “settle” for jones or barkely or go for the best available which if OL is a weakness then I can see them picking kalil if he is the real deal, but people thought tony mandrich was the real deal… although many, including me suggest this team is MULTIPLE players away and not just manning away from being competitive anymore, so trade down since no other qb really stands out as a top 5 pick. in that scenario then matt flynn is who i am pulling for or even trading for stephen mcgee from dallas should be options.

by Straight Out The Burbs on Oct 27, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I think it will be a fight between Colts and Miami for the first.

And it's now my sig
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by Sparhawk on Oct 27, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I really can't see Miami not getting 1st pick

They deserve it in a way.

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by KBUnitz on Oct 27, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Miami really seems to SFL...

while our guys play to their limits. Watching the Denver game last week was all I needed to realize that first overall is not gonna happen.

by Martin Steinkogler on Oct 30, 2011 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions

I want him also

I like the line you projected if we was to pick Kalil, only I would put Ijalana at LG to give Manning great protection on the blindside.

If we can get atleast 2 stud CBs and a SS in the draft or FA, we will be Super Bowl contenders once again.

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Free will is an illusion, but pragmatically, the illusion of self (ego), choice, freedom, consciousness, are all necessary for the game or struggle to move. No struggle, no universe.

Get well soon, Peyton Manning

by ColtsFan504 on Oct 27, 2011 11:04 PM EDT reply actions

Yes. We need 2 stud CB and a safety who is the heart and sole of the defense!
Troy polaumau, ed reed, charles woodson( rare cb). Rodney Harrison in 2003 arrival( anybody remember that), Darren sharper in new Orleans in 2009, John lynch in 2002 and…
All good secondaries. Oh yeah. Bob sanders in 2006. Hope you get my point. We lack leadership on defense. Bracket out, new guy in

by Nojan on Oct 27, 2011 11:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

It’s easy to say “we need a safety.” Problem is: there aren’t any game-changers in this year’s draft. It looks to be marginally better than last year

by TrueBlue87 on Oct 28, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

true

they say the best safety this year is ray ray armstrong from the “U”. after looking at more video of this kid i have to backtrack and agree with you that thee really is not a safety worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. CB on the other hand there are a couple i take in round one.

by Straight Out The Burbs on Oct 29, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Armstrong’s initial high grade was given on potential going into the year, but prior to this season he’d had only 4 starts. Assuming the Colts get a top 5 pick, there aren’t any CBs worth that spot. However, there will be a couple of CBs who should fall out of the first round into second, where the decision will be between a top flight guard/center or the CB who fell

by TrueBlue87 on Oct 30, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions

so...

who do you think is worth a 2nd round pick as a CB? do you think grabbing a CB in round 2 is worth it or grabbing one in FA?

by Straight Out The Burbs on Oct 30, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Very good Q

by Nojan on Oct 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

It depends on who falls through. Alfonzo Dennard from Nebraska is a perfect Cover-2 guy who is a mid to late round first pick who might fall out because of how common the 3-4 is. Chase Minnifield of Virginia is another good choice. His father was an NFL player.

CBs from free agency usually don’t work out because they are system dependent. Nnamdi is a good example. He lit it up in Oakland because the system fit his skills but hasn’t done that well in Philly.

by TrueBlue87 on Oct 30, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Most important thing for colts after their draft positioning is what to do with freeney and Mathis. Freeney is due more than 15 mil if I’m not mistaken. Eaither u sign both or both gone. My opinion is to sign Mathis and also new contract for freeney( only if manning is back of course)

by Nojan on Oct 27, 2011 11:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Freeney is due 19 million next year

I’d rather have Mathis at 5-6 million personally.

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by aaronb on Oct 28, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Lol. Mathis will be more than 10 per year average. Same with freeney if we resign them both. Atleast we free up some money on freeney on the new contract and we have both till manning retires

by Nojan on Oct 28, 2011 2:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

You resign both. DE’s age well and are productive into their 30’s. These will be final contracts for each player.

by TrueBlue87 on Oct 28, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes. We give them the last contract if manning returns. Is there a stud safety in this years free agency?

by Nojan on Oct 28, 2011 9:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Not really and he’d be too expensive anyway

by TrueBlue87 on Oct 29, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Freeney and Mathis

I say that we we release them both and go to a 3-4. We have four good linebacker (if we resign Brackett. We are putting a lot of money into the two ends that are aging. Draft a True NT and Put Anderson and Nevis as Ends in a 3-4 and we have a more money to sure up the secondary.. A huge savings and with 4 linebackers on the field, maybe better at stopping the run.

LE -Nevis/ Moala
RE-Amderson/Foster
NT Empty, Johnson

by Naptown808 on Oct 29, 2011 3:37 AM EDT reply actions

this is the worst idea

i have ever heard. holy shit it is just stupid

by omahacolt on Oct 29, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions

Worst Idea huh

We see how much they are helping us…It’s funny how there are more team running the 3-4 than the 4-3 because you don’t blow alot of money in ends, but hey, lets give mathis another 50 Million???

by Naptown808 on Oct 30, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

omg

please someone at the top grow a pair and let mathis leave. investing that much $$ into two ends on the wrong side of 30 and leading a “defense” that is as bad as it is now is the worst idea ever. that would be like when the government tossed money at the banking industry and hoped it works itself out instead of solving the real issue.

by Straight Out The Burbs on Oct 30, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions

yep. its a horrible idea

with more teams running the 3-4, the talent is getting eaten up in the draft. staying with a 4-3 will let us grab players of higher caliber drop to us. see drake nevis

but regardless of that. anytime you want to cut freeney and mathis at the same time is just stupid

by omahacolt on Oct 30, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Agreed. If manning is our QB next year, you bring both back.

by Nojan on Oct 30, 2011 6:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

colts D without those 2 Monsters on the end... With that secondary... Probably the worst defense in nfl. By all means trade manning. Whats the point!! Hope you get it

by Nojan on Oct 30, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

colts defense is already the worst in the league with those two. you can put your head in the sand and think things will pick up just because peyton comes back but that will not solve the defense. the colts need a overhaul on the defense and no “scheme” is going to change that they have second tier players on defense that would barely make other teams practice squads. time to cut bait and start using the $10/million per year you spend on one player on MULTIPLE players. its funny how many colts fans are in denial are stuck in the past about well once manning comes back everything gets better or just fire caldwell when the issues are way worst than that. even bringing back manning this is a 8 win team MAX and thats just because we are in the afc south. but all this talk is nothing since with polian he will throw a curveball and draft another TE.

by Straight Out The Burbs on Oct 31, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions

Watching this Stanford USC game

If Luck is available he must be taken.

How does he do it?

by It's Magc on Oct 29, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions

Well...

I guess we should be thankful the Dolphins will take the decision out of our hands.

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't."
- Jack Dempsey

by infinityzero.systemerror on Oct 30, 2011 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

very true...

the dolphins got the memo and will fight to the end for luck………. unfortunately, luck and daddy are going to play hardball and will only play for a team they want (ala elway and lil manning) so really they can suck for luck but might be outta luck if he wants no point of them or the colts.

by Straight Out The Burbs on Oct 31, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions