Rooting For Curtis Painter Tonight
by Brad Wells on Oct 3, 2011 1:02 PM EDT
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PrintI'm not going to lie or sugarcoat. I think Curtis Painter stinks as a quarterback.
This isn't about giving Curtis 'his chance.' He's had plenty of those, and he's failed... miserably. Better, more stable quarterback prospects have outplayed him in preseason the last two years, and yet Curtis still remains on this team mainly because Bill Polian has lost his ability to objectively evaluate talent. He's more interested in 'sticking it' to critics these days than making intelligent moves that help the franchise win championships.
Only in Indianapolis can a front office sign a 38-year-old veteran quarterback like Kerry Collins out of retirement to a two-year, $14 million dollar deal, start 0-3, and not take any serious flak for it. It's for passes like these that everyone calls our market 'backwater.' Front office stupidity of this kind usually costs someone their job in other markets. In Indy, when this kind of idiocy happens, most people clam up or start falling all over each other with excuses.
However...
Despite Curtis Painter effectively being told by his front office 'You suck, but we're keeping you anyway just to stick it to people who questioned us for drafting your sorry ass,' after they handed Collins $4 million in guaranteed money two weeks prior to the start of the regular season, CP7 is going to get his first start tonight of his career. If he plays well, that $4 mill the Colts gave Collins will be money utterly wasted, and this front office (which has bungled and blundered its way through the first two months of this league year) will look even more inept and foolish.
For this reason alone, I'm rooting hard for Curtis Painter tonight.
For those that senselessly yap that criticism of Painter is 'hating' him, please note that many 'haters' (like me, I guess) have met Curtis and interviewed him before. Nice guy. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Cares about the team.
However, this is NFL football, and winning is the only attribute anyone cares about.
Nice guys are 'bums' if they suck at their job in the NFL while 'jerks' sometimes get Hall of Fame busts in Canton if they amaze in their sport. Example: Ben Roethlisberger pretty much raped a girl in a bathroom stall, got away with it, and took his team to another Super Bowl. Heck, Roethlisberger got praised for his character by none other than Bill Polian last week on his radio show. It doesn't matter that Big Ben's track record of being a colossal prick is a mile long. He's won two Super Bowls. He's a 'winner.' Winning excuses everything.
So, when people like me say that Curtis Painter stinks and isn't an NFL quarterback, it is nothing personal. I like Curtis. I think he's gotten a raw deal in Indy, and I think the people who drafted him put him in impossible situations that set him up for failure. But, when it comes to the basic tenants of being a true big league quarterback (throwing accurately from the pocket, awareness, courage, ability to see the entire field), Curtis hasn't shown many of these ever, let alone on a consistent basis necessary to succeed in this league.
However, just like with Kerry Collins (another guy I root for because he's a good person who works like a dog to win), I'm rooting for Curtis because it would make me feel good if he got a little success. I like seeing good people do well, and I'll admit that I enjoy seeing assh*les look incompetent for the assh*le decisions they make. Thus, I'm rooting for Curtis tonight because A) It will be good for him and the Colts team, and B) it will 'stick it' to the redheaded troll currently running this franchise who, after giving his first round draft pick in 1995 $14 million, basically told Curtis to screw off.
Maybe some Colts fans want Curtis to fail tonight because it gives the team a better chance to draft Andrew Luck. I just want to see him get a little success because I like seeing good people do well. Seeing Curtis do well would put a smile on my face.
With that in mind, Go CP7!
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We don’t know if or how bad Curtis Painter sucks. Although we’re about to find out. Fact.
by KingRichard on Oct 3, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
exactly
Just when has painter had any kind of legitimate chance? Most rookies look horrible in their first few starts unless they have been on the bench a long time. Forget the game against the Jets. They threw him to the wolves against a blitz happy Jets D with backups to protect him.
I would reserve judgement until he has had a few starts to prove himself. By your logic Ryan Leaf was the bettter QB because he won his first couple of games as a rookie….
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing...
by bluegirl on Oct 3, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
My deep thoughts
Maybe some Colts fans want Curtis to fail tonight because it gives the team a better chance to draft Andrew Luck.
Yeah? Fuck those people!
GO COLTS!
"No one's gonna take me alive
The time has come to make things right
You and I must fight for our rights
You and I must fight to survive"
by Z.Pain on Oct 3, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
PAINTER
I don’t think that Painter is a good quarterback and am not sure that he will even develop into an effective backup. But to say that he has had plenty of chances is not accurate. He has never had a chance to get first team practice reps on a full time basis nor has he every worked in a regular season game with the first team offense. He also has never had multiple starts to see if he can get into any sort of rhythm.
This season is toast so Painter should get all the starts to see if can develop into a capable backup. If he can great, if not no big deal.
by javen on Oct 3, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You may be right....
but I think it’s BS that you say he’s had plenty of chances. I think I totally agree with you about everything else. I don’t think he’s going to be good but I think he can be better than what most people think. The situations and games he’s been thrown into aren’t what I call chances. Sure, anytime you are playing in a real game is a chance but come on. The last game was his best chance and I don’t think he was horrible. This is his first full week of taking all the snaps in practice, EVER.
I Totally Agree With BBS
I will be totally shocked if Painter plays well. But I also wish him the best. He deserves this shot at being a starter. His accuracy is really bad and that cant be fixed at this point but GO Colts.
by SRBradford on Oct 3, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agree
I’m not expecting much at all tonight, but what the heck??
What do I really have left in life but this place? It ain't much of a home, but it's all I got. Well, g******it. I'll be damned if I let some foreign, graffiti writin', soul suckin', son of a bitch in an oversized cowboy hat and boots take my friend's souls and sh** 'em down the visitors toilet!
Yup BBS is back at full effect….
Painter…how dare he suck when the COLTS pulled their starters against one of the top defenses in the league hungry to make the playoffs. Really how dare he suck behind a 2nd rate O-Line and backup WR’s. Oh ya and why couldn’t he produce in a snow storm in Buffalo with those same back ups is beyond me.
You would think a guy who never gets reps with the 1s because the other QB had never missed a game in over 200 starts should be way better. I actually agree he’s not the greatest but come on.
It’s like putting you in charge of the COLTS cap and signings….oh wait you already do that minus the $ and the knowledge it takes.
But I would really like to know your feelings on the front office…we can’t really tell. I’m not living in a dream world here BBS you make some really good points about the COLTS, some I actually agree with. Other times you come off as a bitchy whiner. I know I know then don’t come to this blog cause its yours etc etc.
Like who the hell are you to tell fans to shut up about Tryon being a cancer. I dont think anyone had mentioned it but you needed to puff out your chest and tell everyone else they have no clue.
Good luck with your application for the front office position with the COLTS….your a shoe in :)
and I assume my ban will kick in in 3…2…1……
by Ralla32 on Oct 3, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Painter…how dare he suck when the COLTS pulled their starters against one of the top defenses in the league hungry to make the playoffs. Really how dare he suck behind a 2nd rate O-Line and backup WR’s. Oh ya and why couldn’t he produce in a snow storm in Buffalo with those same back ups is beyond me.
You would think a guy who never gets reps with the 1s because the other QB had never missed a game in over 200 starts should be way better. I actually agree he’s not the greatest but come on.
LOL
He may or may not be good. I don’ think any of us will know until he gets more than just a few weeks of starts and practices stringed together.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
by bbxxj on Oct 3, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
While I don't necessarily want to draft Andrew Luck
I do want the haul of draft picks we could acquire if we did end up with the first overall draft pick and swapped it for a bounty of quality picks from a team that was ready to make Luck their franchise guy. I still think Peyton’s heir is still in high school, and the smart play is to parlay a top choice for more talent to surround Peyton for his stretch run polishing off his career. So,while I want to be proud of my team tonight, I am leaning toward being okay with losing if it means they ultimately cash in with more top-tier talent (WR, OG, DT, SS ,CB).
by oldecoltsfan on Oct 3, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Painter has had just as many opportunities as any backup QB to show he doesn't suck
He has shown nothing to prove that he is not the 64th best QB in the league maybe lower because I am sure some teams have a third QB that has shown more promise than Painter has.
I mean I would expect a QB that got thrown in to be amped up and likely putting too much zip on the ball and possibly overthrowing receivers. Not one hop passes to them.
BBS doesn't play football in the NFL
BBS also does not manage or coach an NFL team. BBS DOES write extensively about the NFL and the Colts in particular (which I appreciate). So the only thing he has to hang his hat on are his opinions and analysis as a fan (as opposed to those on the team with inside knowledge) of the players and choices taken by management. Much of this writing, to be any fun, has to include an element of what is to come and speculation. Writing about what we have all already seen is kind of boring.
Therefore, IF Painter performs better than expected (yes a wide target), then I expect that BBS will write an piece acknowledging that he was wrong about Painter, and not some tepid, mealy mouth excuse such as, “he sucked until he didn’t suck”. That would be writing what we all have already seen. If he doesn’t write this acknowledgement he will be right there will Bill Polian, standing on his ego and refusing to change his tune.
As for me, if pressed with a small wager, I say Painter will not tank, but will not shine and be roundly trashed by BBS, others on these boards and some of the press. Wether BBS accepts it or not, I am going to set the benchmark for NOT trashing Painter at 200+ yards, 1 TD reception (yes Painter must catch it himself), and only 1 turnover directly attributable to his play.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
I think any Colts fan would take that and be thrilled !
by MrBoJangles46 on Oct 3, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
ok - 201 yards is the mark
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
278 2TD and 1 fumble that is more a missed block that his fault so....1/2 fumble. not shabby QB rating of 99
The completion percentage could have been better but they were in his face ALL night.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Rooting for Painter
I’ll be Rooting for Chris because he wears a Colts uniform, its as simple as that. I gotta say that I am one of those who would like to see us end up with Andrew Luck in the Draft next year however. Not that I root for us to loose but I have come to terms with the fact that we will not win many this year. If we don’t end up with Luck we will still have high draft picks. Time to reload for one last hurah with Manning. Would still be nice to have Luck waiting, watching, and learning in the shadows tho.
by YourMyBoyBlue211 on Oct 3, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
I don't agree with BBS
I’m also going to root for Painter because I root for the Colts, and I think it should be that simple for every true Colts fan. Couldn’t sit there and watch the blue jersey under center wishing him bad luck, just to feel I’ve proven something to somebody. Certainly there are people who keep up their mind "anyway just to stick it " no matter what. Be it the front office keeping draft busts on the roster or an erred fan missing the point of being a fan, confusing joy of winning with gloating over others falling.
Yep, rooting for Painter alright.
Why? Because I’m a damn Colts fan, that’s why. Because I hate when they loose, no matter what the reason. What really sucks, is this is the first year in ten that I haven’t bet the Colts every game in my pickem league. I have to bet against them this year, for my wallet……But I am truly rooting against my wallet every week. Just goes to show , reality can really suck.
by tim55 on Oct 3, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
New QB
I think Painter plays well and hangs onto the job until 18 returns. The team really seams to be behind him, beside we have nothing to lose, let the kid have his shot.
Colts Fans
We shouldn’t need a reason to root for Painter. He is our quarterback and if your a colts fan then you should be pushing for whoever fills the position or any position for that matter. I love the colts with all my heart and I am not counting them out yet because regardless of whether or not it is stupid, I still believe in this team. Anyone hoping that the colts lose in order to get Andrew Luck… go to hell… that is not being a fan. Root for the team you love! GO COLTS
by OriolesFan9229 on Oct 3, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I just hope the Colts don't go 0-16
As for the “suck for Luck” sweepstakes….we’re definitely in it right now. Though I think it may be better to trade it to a team that needs it (Dolphins, Chiefs, etc) and get say their 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick, and a player
Pat McAfee for President 2016
Depending on the health of Peyton in February this seems like the best course
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
What was the outcome of all those picks the Saints gave away for Ricky Williams?
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Terrible Drafting
Cade McNown had like an Alex Smith career and lasted I think 5 seasons in the NFL.
D’Wayne Bates was at most a 3rd receiver and played special teams for the most part, retired like 6 seasons after.
Lavar Arrington was actually pretty good though, he was a pretty damn good pass rushing LB.
That about everything that was worth while. In general, sh*tty drafting all around.
Pat McAfee for President 2016
We should all know by now...
…that shooting for the “middle of the pack” in the NFL is absolute worst thing you can do, strategically. Either:
1. Make a run at the playoffs. or
2. Suck.
Because sucking AND trying to win sets you back in all actuality. Some fans believe the worst case scenario this season is if the Colts are 0-16 (I slightly agree, because we do need a few W’s). I believe, however, the worst case scenario is if the colts are 6-10 (not bad enough to draft the best, not good enough to even have a chance at the playoffs). This “no man’s land” has to be avoided at all costs.
If Colts fans would embrace losing this year, we could sure up our continued success in the league by having a backup of promise (Andrew Luck learning from Peyton for a few years?!? Absolute best situation for Colts fans), possibly firing Jim Caldwell, and embracing what looks to be the most talented draft class in recent memory.
There is only one way I would support "throwing" the season
First I have to define throwing. It is not shooting for 0-16. It is fighting like hell to win, and THEN if you reach a point where the playoffs are out of reach (which could be soon), you experiement like crazy with both players and strategy. Nothing is off the table. You want to try that DE as a linebacker? Go for it. Etc etc Everything is with an eye to 2012. it will never happen.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Reps
Curtis Painter has had almost zero reps in a regular season practice with our starters since he has been with us. How can a QB be judged like that. It took Peyton a couple of years and he got all the reps from day one.
If you are a Colts fan
you have to root for the Colts, i would like to see them get Andrew Luck or the #2 pick each round of the draft , but I can never root for the Colts to lose!!!! nothing to lose rooting for CP7 tonight and I have bad mouthed him the entire time he has been here ( just don’t overthrow anyone tonight if they are wide open— PLEASE!!!!)
Just let Peyton call all the plays
he knows waht CP7 can and cannot do
Suck for surprise win
I, for one, actually thinks Painter will do fine tonight, if the line holds up.
The Bucs are quite soft on defense. Ronde Barber is their Mr. X, but he has looked his age so far this season. I think our line will do fine, and when Painter gets the time to go through his reads, he usually does quite okay. Okay meaning he won’t turn over the ball more than once (I’m guessing right into the hands of Talib), while driving us to about a handfull of good scoring opportunities.
And then it is up to our defense, which I actually believe in as well for a change, if they can keep up their run-stopping ways from last week. Freeman is a fine young QB, but he can’t carry his team, if we stop the run effectively.
Go Colts!
Who are they going to put on Wayne?
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Probably Talib
But they will probably use zone schemes most of the time. That’s my guess anyway.
by Peter Storgaard on Oct 3, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The Bucs are overrated I believe.
This is a good opportunity tonight.
It's bad Karma to do play poorly on purpose -
And eventually the gods catch up to you. So, we should play our damndest the entire year and if we still end up getting the opportunity to draft Luck, then we got it fair and square. The Colts, I always thought, were looked upon as the team with integrity. They’re the team that Dallas Clark embodies: he makes a catch, tosses the ball to the ref, and cheerfully runs back to the line. No excessive celebrating or sticking it to the other team. They’re the team that I use as an example with my daughter as good sportsmanship.
So – play to win, Colts! And I’ll be cheering no matter what.
this
I am fairly young and started rooting for the Colts when I was 11 and I rooted for the Colts first primarily because of their integrity.
by willyoubemycharizard on Oct 3, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
what coaching???
I never was a big Caldwell fan, but this game convinced me beyond any doubt this guy is not coaching to win-his beloved Tampa 2 defense might be all right with 30 seconds left on the clock, but to drop your linebackers 15 yards deep leaving a gaping hole in the middle, play after play after play is doing no more than preventing a quick score, and beating your defense to death-bad part of it is in the interviews he acts like they just have some small problems ," we will correct as the season progresses"-let me tell you something they have one big problem among the little problems, and its name is Caldwell-pathetic, just pathetic-and by the way, I think Curtis painter has possibilities!
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