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Jim Caldwell Took A Beating Last Night For Awful Coaching Job

The Colts defense, in particular Eric Foster, weren't the only ones who took at beating at the hands of the Buccaneers last night on Monday Night Football. All evening long, ESPN announcers Jon Gruden, Mike Tirico, and Ron Jaworski seemed to be scratching their heads at the Colts coaching staff, in particular Jim Caldwell and his defensive coordinator, Larry Coyer.

This morning, the Caldwell Beatdown continued, and banging the drum loudly was Phil Wilson of the Indianapolis Star:

I would be remiss if I didn’t mention what seems like an obvious flaw in the coaching philosophy of this team. The Colts had success when blitzing Pittsburgh in key situations. They forced the action. They usually came out of those blitzes with successful results. And when they did it at times against Tampa Bay, it worked. But then too many other times the call was to drop back and just defend. That’s not working.

Wilson has consistently questioned Caldwell's ability to coach at the NFL level, and last night the man who took over for the legendary Tony Dungy did little to quiet is critics.

Here's local Indianapolis sports radio personality Jon Michael Vincent (the man who first broke the Peyton third neck surgery news back in August):

Although I defend [Jim Caldwell] for the Super Bowl (not for clock management) last night drove me nuts. I may slip into the empire's grasp. #colts

Or, I could quote one of our own readers, @DaHart85:

What's worse than 0-4? Oh yeah, the coaching... 

Whether it was failing to challenge an obvious fumble by the Bucs in the first half (a move Gruden was practically screaming at Caldwell to do from the booth); or the puzzling coverages the defense employed that allowed the Bucs to convert numerous third downs' or the boneheaded decision to accept a third down penalty on the Bucs (rather than keep it at 4th and 3, insuring a long FG attempt by a shaky Bucs kicker) which was then converted and, later in the drive, was critical in the eventual tying Bucs TD in the third quarter, Caldwell's lack of coaching prowess was fully and completely on display last night for all to see.

Yeah, we pretty much have this year's Jim Zorn. If Caldwell didn't lose the fans after the moronic timeouts last season in the Jaguars and Jets loses, he certainly lost them last night.

Star-divide

Part of me feels a bit sorry for Caldwell. It seems clear that he and the front office are not on the same page. If you go back and watch the Colts secondary last night, then Paul Kuharsky's words this morning will speak to your frustrations:

Still wondering: After watching Terrence Johnson, Jacob Lacey and Chris Rucker work as cornerbacks, I was still left wondering why the Colts decided to release Justin Tryon last week.

Again, if we're to believe Tryon (who tweeted last week that Caldwell wanted to start him, but was overruled), the head coach in Indianapolis really isn't in charge. He has to deal with two meddling, seemingly incompetent front office guys who are stumbling all over the place trying to save face as the franchise around them falls apart. And while Caldwell will take much of the blame for this 0-4 start, make no mistake...

...this poor showing in the first quarter of the 2011 season is a damning indictment of Bill Polian and his two sons working in the Colts front office.

I'll disagree with JMV on one point, I don't think Caldwell will be back next year, regardless of Peyton Manning's input. If the Colts finish with one of the worst records in the NFL, someone will get the ax. The 'Peyton was hurt' excuse won't cut it. If that excuse is used, then the front office comes off looking incompetent and inept. One injury to the quarterback shouldn't be the difference between winning 11 games and winning 3, especially when so much money is invested in guys like Dwight Freeney, Antoine Bethea, Gary Brackett, and Dallas Clark. The Patriots won 11 games in '08 when Tom Brady went down, and while no one should expect this Colts team to win 11 games without Manning, winning only two or three would be inexcusable.

It means someone (i.e., the GM or the coach) didn't do their job, and I highly doubt Chris Polian and his dad are going to fall on the sword for Jim Caldwell.

Still, while I have sympathy for Caldwell, the reality is that the loss of Peyton Manning was his chance to prove to everyone that he was indeed a legit head coach; that this team wasn't quarterbacked and coached by No. 18. After going winless in the first quarter of the 2011 NFL season, Jim Caldwell has done nothing to crush that perception. If anything, last night reinforced it.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

The Colts were built around Manning and his ability to do what no one else could. It makes you wonder how many rings Manning would have had if he played for the Patriots or Steelers.

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by Shane Clemons on Oct 4, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Take this for what it's worth

But if I were running the show, I’d fire Caldwell after the season and hire Brian Billick as the head coach. And assuming Marvin Lewis (finally) gets fired, hire him has the defensive coordinator. Winning.

by KingRichard on Oct 4, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

You All Know the Definition of Insanity

That was on display last night for Caldwell and Larry Coyer. Even if you think your players can’t do certain things, like cover anyone,you have to make adjustments when it’s not working. They have time and time again NOT DONE THAT !!!!!

by MrBoJangles46 on Oct 4, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

coaching?

When your team is weakened due to injury, the underdog in each game, why come out and play vanilla defense and offense? Throw in some wrinkles, surprise’s, do something different to try and win. One thing I don’t see from this coach is, unlike Dungy’s teams, in the 2nd half they would come out with adjustments to whatever wasn’t working. I don’t see that with Caldwell’s teams, they seem to do the same things that don’t work over and over. I’m hoping for a new head coach & defensive coordinator next season. Peace

by BeerAnShot on Oct 4, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

while I love your username...

I disagree with you to a point. The call by either Painter or Christenson on the screen was a flash of brilliance. And until we lost Costanzo (which I’d hate to do this to you BBS… I told u so), we had a decent running game going. I felt the offensive plan was sound.
The defensive decision to sit in Cover Two and get butchered for eight plays in a row was mind boggling, but they tried the ’let’s blitz at the 40’ last year and got burned bad by a sorry excuse for a QB (Sanchez, as demonstrated this week). This team is trying to reinvent itself. I am with you that second half adjustments aren’t as good, but we lost our best down lineman and left tackle in a matter of 12 playing minutes. The plan didn’t need adjusted, it had to be scrapped for a new plan.

Lets go do what we do.

by Coltsince89 on Oct 4, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hands down the worst coach in football

And its not even close. How did you find a picture of Hhim with his mouth open????! Thats a miracle

FIRE THIS LOSER NOW!!

by bigpony on Oct 4, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Caldwell is not good.

But I don’t blame him for last night. They played prevent D because they have Powers and a bunch of guys that should bot be in the NFL. If Constanzo and Ijilana don’t go down they win last night. You can’t win when half of the guys on the field should be selling cars or insurance.

I am ok with Polian leaving not because I am sore about his picks…which are not as bad as many fans are saying…but because this team needs to change its philosophy and get strong on both lines. If Polian still want to use this scheme which runs countercyclical to 5th grade physics…then he needs to go. That being said Irsay is not going to make such a move and that’s what concerns me most about the franchise.

Forget about getting Chucky Billick Fisher or Cowher…they will not put up with Polian. They will hire a puppet who has charisma and won’t look like one.

by Lewballer 3 on Oct 4, 2011 12:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

No

Powers is a stud! They have him only and a bunch of UFL guys.

by Lewballer 3 on Oct 4, 2011 12:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Even when they were 14-0!!!

Caldwell still had no business coaching this team.

by Lewballer 3 on Oct 4, 2011 12:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He has been over his head...

since he took over this team just like many of us thought he would be. This guy isn’t a coach, never has been never will be. You talk about being handed jobs from being in the right place at the right time Caldwell takes the cake on that one.

How in the hell do you take over one of the elite franchises in all of football with the credentials he had. I was amazed when they made the announcement that he would be Dungy’s replacement and I’m still amazed that he is our head coach today.

if Irsay doesn’t sober up and get his arms around this front office we are headed back to the shit hole condition this franchise was in back in the early days.

by Blue Report on Oct 4, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

In the early days...

the Colts actually kicked some ass! The 80s and 90s are not really early…just sayin.

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by TRDean on Oct 4, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The early days of the Indianapolis Colts

Not the Baltimore Colts.

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by Wiedmann on Oct 6, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

CALDWELL IS NOT THE PROBLEM

So let’s see. Playing without his franchise quarterback, his starting offensive tackles, his starting defensive tackles and a quarterback making his first NFL start, the Colts go on the road in a prime time time game against a playoff contender and almost win. His team was ready to play and they played their guts out. Could he have been a little more aggressive, sure, but most coaches in the league do the same thing.
It’s the same old thing, when you win everything is great, when you lose let’s blame someone.

by javen on Oct 4, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Agreed that he did not cost them the game!

I don’t think he can lead the team to long term success…I don’t belive in the blame game either though! The fan base is just gonna have to take it on the chin…hope 18 comes back healthy and they have a great draft.

by Lewballer 3 on Oct 4, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have to agree here...

The coaches had the team playing pretty well. I’m not sure what people expect…so many injuries, a QB making his first start, and playing against a playoff team from the NFC. I was actually pleased they played as well as they did. Suffering after the Bert Jones injury for 20 years I have seen pathetic…and last night wasn’t it. By a long shot. Do I like Caldwell, no…Polian…a little better. But I think with the team built around Manning the way it is…even if Dungy was here the Colts would be in a very similar situation.

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by TRDean on Oct 4, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

DISAGREE........

I thought Caldwell sucked when we were 14-0. As I continue to say Peyton manning being hurt has exposed a lot of weaknesses that some of us already knew were going to catch up to this team.

1. Blown Drafts

2. A complete fucking joke of a coaching staff from top to bottom. I honestly wouldn’t keep one of them.

3. Dumb ass moves in the front office on free agency and roster spots.

4. Drunk Irsay

by Blue Report on Oct 4, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the players and support them,

but yes, this owner, manager, and coaching staff is a complete clusterfuck.

by Ayrshire on Oct 4, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree with your disagree

Caldwell and this entire coaching staff should take a lot of the blame. Talent is the ultimate trump card, but how can you watch last night’s game and not pin this loss on the coaching staff?

We all agree that the players played their asses off, but -

The players aren’t making the calls on the field.
The players aren’t the ones not making any adjustments.
The players aren’t the ones missing out on plays that should have been challenged.
The players aren’t the ones turning down penalties that would have brought up 4th downs.
The players aren’t the ones butchering clock management.
The players aren’t the ones routinely getting out smarted in the playoffs every year.

And I’m not talking just last night’s game. This has a been a ugly pattern for years.

The front office has a big hand in this as well. They are the ones the put those UFL level players out there.

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by Guy LeDouche on Oct 4, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Accepting that 3rd down penalty was inexcusable.

I cannot understand why he did that. I couldn’t believe that actually happened. I thought the official made a mistake, and he would get back on the mic & say the penalty would be declined & hold up a fist indicating 4th down, but it never happened, and we all know how that drive ended.

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by Wiedmann on Oct 6, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colts win 10

and go to the playoffs. I read it in the dust under my refridgerator.

The apparitions to whom Painter was throwing the football last night materialize into receviers and catch it. The ghost runners whom the Colts defenders were tackling solidify into opposing players and go down for no gain. The offensive linemen shuffle their feet and move laterally in order to keep themselves between the defenders and their quarterback. The cornerbacks review their contracts and find, surprisingly, that it indeed IS their responsibilty to break up the passes and not just escort opposing receivers to the goal line.

All these things start happening next game.

by wcwills on Oct 4, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

CHALLENGE

I like how the post suggests it was an obvious fumble that should have been challenged. It wasn’t at all obvious, but I guarantee you if Caldwell challenged and lost the post would have ripped him for a stupid challenge.

by javen on Oct 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

It was the right call to not challenge

I am no Caldwell lover but the stupid ref blew the whistle before our guy picked up the ball. It was clearly a catch and a fumble but they couldn’t reverse it even if they wanted to, because the idiot ref blew the whistle too early.

by FatDT on Oct 4, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I don't know

is if that’s why they didn’t challenge. They may have made the right call for the wrong reason. No way to know.

by FatDT on Oct 4, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caldwell=Bad.............Morris=Terrible

Well at least Caldwell wasn’t the worst coach on the field last night. Raheem Morris is awful. Preparation..NO, solid game plan..NO, competent play calling…NO, confused look on the sidelines…YES.

by Devilsaccomplice on Oct 4, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

Was thinking that last night, God how awful the Bucs look. And yet they are 3-1. I mean, WE made them look bad. They should have kicked our ass and they barely did. Pittsburgh looked like crap too.

So who’s next? who are we going to make look like crap?

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by GotDebt on Oct 4, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say Kansas City

but they already look like crap.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Media 101

I am beginning to think many of these posts and statements are exaggerated to encourage readership…the writers here know what is really going on. Kinda the Colin Cowherd school of journalism.

I would like to see the personel and scheme change more than Polian. If the FO whiffs on the 12 draft then its a different story. Polian has put 7 SB teams on the field…that does not exonerate him for poor drafts recently but I am willing to give him a chance. We will see if they make needed changes in the philosophy of the team and its construction. If they refuse then a change will be needed.

by Lewballer 3 on Oct 4, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Polian has put 7 SB teams on the field…

Actually, he put five Super Bowl teams on the field (Bills in ’91, ’92, ’93; Colts in ’06, ’09). He also only won one trophy.

Please, stop with the useless statements about the writing here being ‘exaggerated’ as if it were a fake, insincere way just to get attention. It’s a completely bullshit statement on your part, and it was done only because you disagree with our opinions. Rather than offer a reasonable counter-argument, who simply demean the person (me) and suggest they aren’t genuine in their intentions.

That’s a no-no around here.

Listen, right now the Colts are 0-4, and a big reason for that has been the piss poor drafting of the front office for four-plus years. Citing the past successes of Bill Polian does not gloss over his numerous mistakes in recent years. I know if might be difficult for someone like you to grasp, but just like players, personnel gurus can ‘lose it.’

Example One: Ten years ago, Carl Peterson was considered on par with Bill Polian as one of the best football men in the NFL. Ask KC fans how they feel about him now? Peterson was indeed a great personnel guy, and he helped rebuild the Chiefs from utter nothingness to a contender. But, this is a bottom line business, and after several years of bad drafting and futility, he was shown the door.

Example Two: Look at Mike Shanahan. He coached and ran the front office in Denver. He won more Super Bowls than Polian, and he was considered utterly untouchable in Denver. But, after years of blowing picks and making stupid trades to get overvalued veterans, he got fired in 2008.

What was done five, ten, fifteen years MEANS NOTHING in the present day. NFL = Not For Long. Win now, or hit the bricks.

And knock off the shots at my intentions. One more post like that, and you’re gone. Nothing pisses me off more than some silly reader who, rather than offering a reasonable counter to a statement, attacks my intentions in a pathetic attempt to devalue the argument.

It’s cowardly, and it’s intellectually boring.

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by Brad Wells on Oct 4, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually agree with Lew...

And am sure the banhammer isn’t far behind.

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by TRDean on Oct 4, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peyton Manning...

…should also be receiving the salaries of Caldwell, Christensen, and the QB coach because Manning does everything. People always say, not 1 player is bigger than the team, well this definitely ain’t true. Manning is not only the poster boy for the Colts, Manning is the Colts. Without Manning, the Colts are just crap. It’s like Michael Jordan and the bulls, without their #1, the team is nothing.

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by KBUnitz on Oct 4, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

^Manning is far and away the most valuable, more so than MJ

One thing I have trouble with – and it’s with non-Colts fans – is that there are a lot of peeps that do not realize how crushing the loss of Manning to this team really is. It’s always the, “but it’s just one player…” retort.

I am convinced that losing Manning is the most impacting/crushing individual loss in the history of team sports, at least modern day. IIRC, the Bulls didn’t fall off that much during MJ’s hiatus. I guess some could argue Ruth after being traded from the Sox. But modern day, I can’t think of an instance where the loss of one player impacted the team as much as the loss of #18.

by steveoly32 on Oct 4, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

we are know that at this Blog

Peyton should be MVP without playing a down this year

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Oct 4, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahahahah

Why not Jim Brown or Otto Graham? We saw how crappy the Browns are without those two, they’ve sucked for 40 years.

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by ISN on Oct 5, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

steve, I agree with you...

BUT! Rapehersburger serves a four game suspension, the Steelers pull out 3 of those games and go to the damn Super Bowl. The Patriots lose Brady for a year and win 11, make early exit from the playoffs (but they made it). The Packers last year were literally decimated just like the Colts last year with injuries and won it all.
I sat in the stands through the Trudeau, George, Hermann, Dickerson, Bentley, Entman years. I don’t want to see them ever again. Neither does Irsay (when he isn’t high as a kite or drunk). So I hope the organization takes a long look at itself and figures out why it’s losing and takes action. Unfortunately, it’s usually the head coach that takes that hit. Polian is very egotistical and won’t accept any blame. He didn’t for the Bills or Panthers why would he start now. So regardless of his alleged meddling with the team rosters, Caldwell will be fired for losing the playoffs last year, the super bowl the year before, and not finding a way to win games with Manning, et al, out.

Lets go do what we do.

by Coltsince89 on Oct 4, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pats didn't make the playoffs in 08.

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by ISN on Oct 5, 2011 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Replay Consultant!

If Sweater Vest wasn’t serving a suspension, he would have been all over the fumble challenge.

While Caldwell didn’t personally lose last night’s game, his game day coaching abilities are so shitty it’s sad and laughable. He makes zero adjustments, takes zero chances, and constantly makes boneheaded calls. There were a couple of 4th and short situations where going for it would have made sense. The 3rd and inches play action rather that run was questionable at best. Show some balls, or a bit of command of your team on the sidelines. Feel free to be creative, just a little bit.

When it comes to shitty NFL head coaches, he’s up there with Mike Tice, Brad Childress, Marty Morningwheg, and Dick Jauron to name a few.

by steveoly32 on Oct 4, 2011 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Your second paragraph

makes very good points and as I read it, I can honestly say that it may be the definition of ‘personally’ losing a game.

by Ayrshire on Oct 4, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly his incompetence had a direct correlation with our losing – don’t get me wrong!

I guess I was trying to use “personally” as literally as possible for the players on field. Like David “Crisco hands” Caldwell, or our o-line collapsing like a house of cards, or overpursuit on tackling, or stupid penalties, or AV missing a FG that he never misses, etc, etc.

I need a drink.

by steveoly32 on Oct 4, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

on the 3rd and short the only reason to pass was to take a shot on a long one

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by indylator on Oct 4, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

right,

I was really pissed at that 3 and inches play. I understand that they wanted to use play action to fool the defense, and I think it was a great call, except that Dallas Clark fell down and was not able to get open for Painter to pass the ball to him. But not going for it on 4 and inches really makes me irritating.The ball was around midfield so it wasn’t like the ball was at the 20. Caldwell needs to start taking more risks. Conservative coaching is effective when you are better than your opponent, and that was kind of worked when PM was playing, but now the colts are clearly the underdogs and they need to event the playing field to have a chance at winning.

by fanatik on Oct 4, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of people are justifiably going to beat on Donald Brown for a wiff on that block

The better question is WHY IS HE IN THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE!? Really? Caldwell? Hello??

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by indylator on Oct 4, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

3rd and short

Calling a play action pass on 3rd and short in itself wasn’t a bad decision. The first option was Dallas and he got tripped up. It’s the fact that we punted after the incompletion. I think a good coach is thinking about the whole picture, which Caldwell doesn’t. I picture a good coach saying without hesitation, “F*ck it. If we don’t pick this up on 3rd down, we’ll get it on 4th down.”

by steveoly32 on Oct 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It did appear Painter was reasonably mobile on that play which is nice to know

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by indylator on Oct 4, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

REASONS FOR 0-4

The reason the Colts are 0-4 is very simple, Peyton Manning is hurt. If he plays, the Colts are, at worst, 3-1. That is the only reason.

by javen on Oct 4, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed that is why

Peyton should be the MVP but now that he is not there ,, coaches have to do a lot more coaching and it has been bad coaching

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Oct 4, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most have us at this blog have been saying Caldwell is not a head coach for a long time!!!!!

horrible coaching on offense and defense last night, outcoached in the SB, outcoached agaisnbt Jets in playoffs last year,, Peyton covers up for a lot of bad coaching, now it is showing,, i hope Cower, Grusen , and Fisher are on speed dail in

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Oct 4, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Christensen

I’m not on the bandwagon to start firing coaches or executives, but I’d suggest if you are looking for coaches or executives to blame, Clyde Christensen is a real good place to start. The defense this year has been pretty good – at least as good as it has been in recent years. It’s the offense that has been awful. Granted alot of that is due to the absence of #18, but you still ought to be able to manage some TD drives with this team’s receiving talent. Clark, Collie & Tamme combined still haven’t reached 200 yards receiving for the entire season.

Consider also how the main players came to their present posts. Bill Polian has had a hall of fame career as an NFL exec. Caldwell was hand-picked by a guy who has seen numerous proteges find success as NFL head coaches. Coyer also had shown some solid success as a DC elsewhere – I recall most comments around here when he came on viewed him as a significant upgrade. But Christensen got his job mostly because he was the only offensive position coach with OC experience when pension issues forced Tom Moore into a consultant’s role.

Note also that Dungy was run out of Tampa because he was unable to develop an effective offense. When he came here our situation was reversed, so he wisely kept Tom Moore and most of his staff. The exceptions were Christensen and Caldwell. And now that Christensen has been OC, all of the old pre-Dungy offensive assistants have been nudged out the door. Despite coming in as a continuity pick, he’s completely revamped his staff by replacing some very highly respected assistants with coaches in their first NFL position.

by ex-Viking fan on Oct 4, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Parting shot!

Before I get banned. I want to make a last post. The truth is that the Colts have been built wrong from day one. They have overly invested on offensive skill players and never addressed glaring holes at DT CB and since Tarik retired LT. They were too small and soft to win in January mane…common sense says that LBs that weight 225 and DTs that weigh 270 are gonna have trouble against the run.

The Tampa 2 worked with down south because they had Sapp and Booger anchoring the middle which gave everyone room to manuver. Fans should really be calling on the team to abandon the Dungy strategy as opposed to crying about this years debacle. Smaller players that are fast but can’t make a tackle are not gonna get it done. Ask Philly and Atlanta…two teams also built wrong. There is a reason Bob Sanders was not drafted earlier…its because other GMs knew he was too small to play in their scheme and would not hold up. Polian has drafted well…until the last two yrs for this scheme…It’s the foundation that is cracked.

Caldwell is a bad coach but no one could win with these players sans Manning. They should have spent more effort in finding lineman as opposed to spending scouting efforts on more Manning weapons. This team had looks at other SBs and failed because when its 15 degrees and snowing you have to run and stop the run. The year they won was because of defense againt the Ravens and in the SB not Peyton chucking it around. Look at the Patriots…when they stopped running and playing D they stopped advancing in the playoffs! They will not win a SB with five wide sets. It won’t happen. It’s a passing league for sure. But in January you have to have the manpower to win games in poor conditions

What I am hoping for is that the FO will address the REAL problem…get a stud DT to anchor the D. Drop the cover 2 and use Wheeler and even Hughes as blitzers. Get another cover corner to compliment Powers. Get a kick returner…I’m not saying they need to switch to a 3-4 or completely clean house. But they have to get tough mean and angry in the trenches. If Polian will take note I think they have a chance. If they keep the same scheme…its ova!!!

You guys that want to cry over spilled milk have at it. But those years are gone. I prefer to focus on rebuilding and quickly. This team has some great vets and some young players with potential. Connor and Angerer along with Nevis are keepers! They draft well and get four contributors for 2012 they could emerge again. But I guess I am weak and stupid for not crying…

by Lewballer 3 on Oct 4, 2011 3:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Everyone deals with things differently Lewballer3.

Some people prefer to look at the current situation, some prefer thinking of next year/the future and some people like to go back and look at decisions/mistakes made in the past. You made some good points above. But, when you say ‘if they keep the same scheme….it’s ova!!!’ ….you’re making a lot of peoples’ points. They’ve kept the same schemes and ways of doing things for years and refuse to make adjustments. It’s made them the laughing stock of the league in special teams play, historically one of the worst teams at stopping the run, and now one of the worst teams at stopping the pass. And, it’s also made them one of the most injured, including Peyton, who was sacrificed last year due to terrible o-line play. And, that’s why, it’s ova, at least for this year.

by Ayrshire on Oct 4, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

STUD DT

If Manning plays this team is a super bowl contender and this board would be complaining about something else.
 
By the way I think the Colts should go pluck a “stud” DT and cover corner off the “stud defensive player” tree out back. Really, every team in the league is looking for players like that. Who do you suggest that we get? They should also get a great safety and linebacker as long as they are looking.

If healthy, a big if. this team is a contender.

by javen on Oct 4, 2011 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

i like the idea of grown football players on trees

make it happen, scientists!

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by danorocks17 on Oct 4, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Draft.

I’m talking about through the early draft picks. Didn’t really need Donald Brown or Gonzo. Or even Hughes. They needed Ugoh…it just didn’t work out

by Lewballer 3 on Oct 4, 2011 3:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Did he just say Ugoh was a good player...

I was starting to agree with your points (because I’m emotional like that). But then you said Ugoh was a ‘need’. You lost me, you can’t come back. As you say, it’s ‘ova’.
I agree to the points of needing to balance the team. Get some more skill on the lines and defensive secondary (our stud Bethea needs some help).
As we saw last year, #18 will get results with other teams’ castoffs. No need to get the high dollar WR with #18 as the cannon but they do help when #’s 5 &7 are in the game.

Lets go do what we do.

by Coltsince89 on Oct 4, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugoh...

They needed a LT when they drafted Ugoh. He was a bust but at least a pick made to address a need. They did not need to spend first round picks on Brown Gonzo and Hughes as they were solid at those positions.

by Lewballer 3 on Oct 4, 2011 8:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

When I say stud DT...

I meant guys that are not UFAs. Of course the Colts can’t draft a Suh Raji or Hampton…that does not mean they can’t find a true NT in the first or second round. They did draft Moala…who I detest…but he is not a NT. Pitcock was a 3rd or 4th rounder but I don’t think Mookie Foster or even big Ed were drafted. Hard to belive such a good team (at the time)…could ignore such an important position…especially since they play cover 2.

by Lewballer 3 on Oct 4, 2011 9:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

In fairness we did

Trade a 2nd for Booger McFarland and give 30 Million to Corey Simon.

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by aaronb on Oct 5, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

DRAFT PICKS

Stud defensive tackles and db’s are usually found much higher in the first round than when the Colts pick. They picked the best player at that spot based upon their evaluations. Most draft “experts” had all those players as late first round picks. Contrary to what many on this board want to believe, very few late first round picks turn out to be stars. A few do but most are just “guys” and some are busts. It’s the same for every team not just the Colts.

For the sake of argument, how would everyone feel if Angerer was our first round pick and Hughes a second pick. My guess is everyone would be thrilled with a stud linebacker and, based on last night, a defensive end with potential.

by javen on Oct 4, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Normally I'm a pretty staunch defender of Caldwell,

but I can’t do that right now, because honestly, I don’t care if the best player on the team is out, this team has enough talent that it should have won at least two games by now.

Dallas Clark: Some tight ends catch. Some block. Clark just owns.

by Sir Sci on Oct 4, 2011 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

We probably won't win

two games during the whole season. Realistically.

by Ayrshire on Oct 5, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still trying to figure out how they got away with cutting Tryon last week

and then putting that horrific secondary on the field last night without ever explaining why Tryon was cut.

Polian in a small market is the perfect storm: He treats the local media like mushrooms and they don’t have the chutzpah to call him out.

It’s frustrating as a fan to watch that abortion they called pass defense last night and not know why Tryon was gone.

New Math: 2011-18 = 0-16

by EVLGNUS on Oct 4, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Completely stupid move..I thought it was a joke at first...

Why don’t we just cut our third best DB…yay!

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by Joey Kirby on Oct 4, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You really are giving the Colts too much credit

Peyton is just THAT GOOD

Polian should be garotted

Fuck Polian for messing up Peyton’s career

At this point, I feel sorry for Luck if we do draft him – Polian will fuck over his career like he did Manning’s

by manningtoharrison on Oct 5, 2011 6:14 AM EDT reply actions  

This team will never

reach its full potential as long as Polian is here.

by Ayrshire on Oct 5, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

even after the timeouts last season

I still liked caldwell. Maybe its because i dont get to watch many colts games, but after watching monday, i’m never going to support him again. Chris polian is the only person in the organization (besides the players) who i dont HATE now.

The Indianapolis Colts are going to be the 1st team to win a super bowl in their own stadium. 'nuff said.

by It'sAlways18 on Oct 5, 2011 12:43 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

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