NFL Week 12 Recap: Panthers 27, Colts 19
The Colts are 0-11 for the first time since 1986, two years after moving from Baltimore to Indianapolis. This means the 2011 Colts have started worse, and looked worse, than the wretched 1-15 Colts of 1991 or the eventual 3-13 Colts of 1997. The '91 Colts started 0-9 before getting their first win on the road against the Jets November 10th. The '97 Colts started 0-10, but earned their first win November 16th against the Packers.
This team, and this franchise, is worse than those two horrid squads. Much worse.
Sunday, the Carolina Panthers had just two wins and a truly terrible defense when they entered Lucas Oil Stadium. They also had a twelve-game road losing streak. When the game was over, they won their third game of the season, snapped their road losing streak, and moved the Colts one step closer to going 0-16 for 2011.
Once again, Colts quarterback Curtis Painter was terrible; his numbers greatly over-inflated by some truly excellent play by one Reggie Wayne, whose 56-yard touchdown catch and run in the fourth quarter should make his career highlight reel. Some nice running by Donald Brown and Joseph Addai also provided a nice, positive spark that this team has sorely lacked.
But, as we have seen all season, this defense is truly wretched.
The supposedly greatest linebacker trio in the league, as Colts front office overlord Bill Polian calls them, were mauled all game long. Rookie quarterback Cam Newton picked apart the putrid Colts secondary, and running backs DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart ran through wide open holes for big yardage and back-breaking plays.
Stewart finished with 70 yards on 10 carries while Williams had two touchdowns, including a dynamic 25-yard touchdown run.
Back to Painter, he did manage to bring the Colts back into the game after the Colts were down 24-13 in the fourth quarter. Wayne took his pass over the middle and converted it into the before mentioned spectacular 56-yard touchdown. After the Colts defense managed to get a key stop, Painter then under-threw a ball to Pierre Garcon in the endzone that was intercepted with 4:24 left. After the defense forced another stop, Painter drove the Colts all the way down to the three yard line of the Panthers, but threw another interception in the endzone, effectively ending all hopes of the Colts getting their first win of 2011.
Curtis Painter now has thrown one touchdown and nine INTs in the last three games. He's also fumbled three times during that stretch.
After the game, Colts owner Jim Irsay tweeted:
O-11 bottom line,and the bottom line is the bottom line..I like,I want the anger this should bring..because if ur not pissed off,ur asleep!
The 0-10 start for the 1997 Colts cost head coach Lindy Infante and general manager Bill Tobin their jobs. Clearly, this 0-11 start should end the tenures of Jim Caldwell, Chris Polian, and Bill Polian in Indianapolis at the end of the season. If it does not, the only person 'asleep' is Jim Irsay himself, and his useless tweets are an obviously shallow effort to convey 'anger' to fans which ring hallow unless he is willing to enforce drastic change within the Colts.
Tweets mean nothing now. Words mean nothing. Action is all I want to see from Jim Irsay, who only looks more and more inept and powerless as long as the Polians are in charge of his front office.
This is no longer an 'elite' organization. The Colts are a laughing stock. A sham. A farce. Only change, top to bottom, will wash away the stink that is emanating from this rotting corpse of a franchise in Indianapolis.
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Do you think that they will give Orlovsky the start next week?
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No
In my opinion, the Colts are now intentionally losing games. Keeping Painter ensures they will continue losing.
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by Brad Wells on Nov 27, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whereas Orlovsky guarantees victory?
Painter is terrible.
Orlovsky is worse.
Let’s not forget that he piloted the only [previous] 0-16 team in NFL history.
That Lions team was better than this Colts team
I don’t think you’ll find too many people who will agree that Orlovsky is worse than Painter. The evidence isn’t there.
Meh, wrote that poorly
That Lions team would beat this Colts team, largely due to QB play
The Lions had Drew Stanton and Dan Orlovsky
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Aside from Megatron, were they?
How does he do it?
This Colts team is MILES better than the Lions of '08
The only areas in which the Lions might, and thats a big might have been better were Running Game and Secondary. And our Coach didn’t make that bad decisions.
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You can't say Orlovsky is worse
He started 7 games for the Lions. He had 8 TDs, 8 INTs, and a 72.6 rating.
Through 11 games Painter has 6 TDs, 9 INTs, and a 66.6 (hmm) rating.
Orlovsky sucks and probably wouldn’t help the Colts win. But when he’s come into games he has moved the ball where Painter couldn’t. He is not a worse option. Maybe not better, but not worse.
Continuing to start a player that is playing as badly as Painter has just looks bad. It makes it look like the team isn’t trying to win. Twist this or spin that or whatever you want to do, that is how it looks.
Orlovsky has played against prevent defenses when he's been in.
Orlovsky has led exactly zero scoring drives. All of his drives have ended in Orlovsky incompletions. Orlovsky tutored under Joey Harrington. Orlovsky was terrible in Detroit and was terrible in the preseason. He’s been terrible all 7 years in the league. It makes zero difference who starts at QB for this team. Starting Orlovsky would be a PR move, nothing more, nothing less.
by James Broschat on Nov 28, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Starting Painter
is rewarding a player that has thrown 2 TDs and 9 INTs in the last 6 games. Maybe it is strictly a PR move but starting Painter is a bad PR move whereas trying Orlovsky at least keeps up the illusion to attempting to win games.
You have to realize that in Detroit Orlovsky
had no weapons but Kevin Smith and Megatron. He had no team support. The Colts have good recievers and decent backs.
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I don't agree
Starting Painter is giving him one last chance to prove himself as a reliable backup. I don’t think he will, but no matter how you look at it, there is no logical reason to play Orlovsky.
by Peter Storgaard on Nov 28, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Scorched Earth Scenario
It was nice to see Marvin getting his spot on the Ring of Honor.
It was also nice to see Reggie pulling a smooth move and breaking one for a TD.
Other than those two moments, the Colts were pretty hard to watch today. All season ticket holders should feel thoroughly cheated this season.
The Colts are an indoor natural disaster. It is time to clean house from Caldwell on up and start from scratch.
Irsay, if you have any respect for the Colts organization, please make some big changes NOW.
Defense
Idk why the defense is getting a thrashing, sure it did collapse at the end, but it gave the offense plenty of times to score, painter and co. just couldn’t do anything until the 2nd quarter/late 4th quarter, thats not the defenses fault, the defense can’t do everything
by Keysta101 on Nov 27, 2011 10:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
The defense did enough. The offense was best at keeping the defense on the field. The Panthers are a horrible team. The Colts made them look competent.
It’s a conspiracy, though. Don’t rail at the management. We’re watching 16 weeks of no game planning—just like the pre-season. You’d have to be an idiot not to see that. (Credit that sentence to Brad Wells) In the pre-season the players play hard, but are lost because the management wants to see them play in raw situations. The Colts don’t win in the pre season, we know that. This is the same. With Manning out, it’s better to stink up the field and get draft picks—1, 33, 65 is much, much better than 20, 52, 84. It’s not a suck for Luck, it’s just plain suck.
Watch all the staff come back.
And grind your teeth.
I think you'll be spared
The Colts might be sticking with the staff now, but they (at least the coaches) will be axed in the offseason. No point in doing it now — the season was basically sunk due to Manning’s injury. But can’t go into next season w/ this staff. They’ll be axed and someone new will come in.
I can see Caldwell staying, but can also see Irsay requiring him to fire
the defensive coordinator and the special teams coaches
Dear Diary, Kevin is so hot. Today he was raking the yard. God I wish he'd throw me into that pile of leaves.
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Can see the colts having alot of new faces next season…Gonzo, Garcon, Wayne, Satruday, Mathis, and whoever else are up plus the question is will they also cut ties with addai who is never healthy and Bullit and whoever else..
I dont know what all is about to happen but I think the Colts may look very different from top to bottom
One of the most poorly constructed team and system ever w/o Manning
Plus what appears of no change or adjustment to the system makes things much much worse with Painter or whoever at QB. Healthy Manning though has this same team at least 7-4…9 – 2 at best IMO.
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Nov 27, 2011 10:24 PM EST reply actions
Colts defense was much better than anyone's giving them credit for.
The Panthers are one of the top offenses in the league. Their running game is 2nd in DVOA, 2nd in YPC. Newton’s been very good, they’re 7th in YPA. The Panthers dominated TOP, but still held below average in terms of yards.
The running game was great today, although Addai still looks hurt.
This one’s on the QB play. With a healthy #18 in there, this is a double digit win.
by James Broschat on Nov 27, 2011 10:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agree
These articles bashing everyone and everything are over the top.
by buymymonkey on Nov 27, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Stats are nice
but the defense wasn’t good enough. Saying “with a healthy #18” is like saying “if I could wave a magic wand”.
I also think saying 103 yards is “great” is a sign that we’ve lost perspective of what a real running game is. Donald Brown had some good runs and the playcalling did not help things (I can’t believe they didn’t try to run once on 1st and goal from the 4 at the end of the game). Addai didn’t run well. I agree he still looks hurt. Should’ve given more carries to Brown (weird to say) and the tougher ones to Carter.
While I still cringe when Brown has to make a read behind the line of scrimmage he has proven this year that he can play in the NFL. Give him some space and he can make things happen. He and Carter have very complimentary running styles.
I'd say the defense was good enough to win.
The offense is what lost the game. The defense made the crucial stops at the end of the game. The offense didn’t come up with plays, although playcalling like you said was dumb. Brown ran very well all game, but wasn’t getting anything down the stretch.
by James Broschat on Nov 28, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
Running game
Brown/Addai combined for over 100 yards, with 1 TD and 4.9 YPC. They did that with Curtis “I scare no one but Colts fans” Painter under center. Not the best running day ever, but I don’t think you can malign them — that’s pretty good production.
NICE RUNNING
by Addai and Brown? No, excellent running by Brown and very average ( 7-23) by Addai. I know the meme around here is that Brown is another Polian “bust” but let’s not try to manipulate the stats to suggest that all our running backs played well in an attempt to diminish Brown’s game.
You Don't
Draft a running back named Donald in the 1sgt round. End. Of. Story.
TimeOut
by Jim"TimeOut"Caldwell on Nov 28, 2011 2:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well timeout
that might be the best post this board has ever seen
Why are we still on his drafting?
Yeah, he shouldn’t have been drafted in the first round. That doesn’t invalidate his play.
by James Broschat on Nov 28, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
If you thought the Saints game was bad
….next week..O GOD
Jim Irsay is a joke
0-11 is the bottom line? 0-3/0-4 should be the bottom line unless you are the Dolphins. And good, he’s mad, he should be bad, he should be right down pissed. He should be tearing the Polians a new assho*e. And I hope he is. I expect changes this week, either it’s the firing of the Polians or Caldwell, or the cutting of scrubby players, I expect actions to be taken. And quit tweeting. I can’t take anything seriously that comes out of Twitter. Call a press conference, send a message to Indy Star or whatever newspaper is in Indianapolis, talk to ESPN, do anything but tweet for f*cksakes. This team is worse than the 0-16 Lions. The Lions had less talent. All they had was an injured Jon Kitna, a washed up Culpepper and Megatron. Plus they had something like 25 players on IR. What’s Indy’s excuse? Manning is out, really, really? Management and coaches should be forced to WALK to Boston for their next game.
Remember the Colts gameplan for Drew Brees? Well, I cannot wait to see their gameplan for Tom Brady.
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Anthony Calvillo - 72,382 passing yards - pro football's all-time leader
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OCCUPY BILL POLIAN'S OFFICE
lol
grow up. you expect changes this week? lol. yeah. thats going to happen. horrible post on our part. sober up and try again
Tone it down
Let’s tone down the ‘grow up’ comments.
If the comment was as ‘horrible’ as you say, offer a detailed reasoning WHY it was horrible. Don’t just tell the person to ‘grow up’ and ‘sober up’ just because they are a tad pissed their favorite team is 0-11 in a season many picked them to contend for a championship.
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I kind of agree with a lot in this post
But this would be more effective if it wasn’t the 15,000th time you’ve dipped into the anger well.
What does it take to get you angry?
Most people, other than a few apologists and Colts employees, are pissed, because of watching their favorite team be systematically destroyed over the past few years. You don’t go winless, without major mismanagement from the top. If a GM relies totally on one player to win games, something is incredibly wrong.
Some Colts fans
prefer to receive their bad news wrapped in a codeine coma of happy horseshit.
Less bile, more perspective
Peyton Manning is unquestionably the single most important Colts player of this era, but to suggest that he’s the only reason the Colts have won is ridiculous. As great as Peyton is, his success could not have been accomplished if Polian hadn’t put talent around him. Some of the players that have made the Pro Bowl that joined the team AFTER Peyton was drafted:
- Edgerrin James
- Reggie Wayne
- Dallas Clark
- Jeff Saturday
- Dwight Freeney
- Robert Mathis
- Bob Sanders
- Antoine Bethea
Not to mention the plethora of effective players that Polian added that never saw Pro Bowl recognition with the Colts, but that proved themselves to be quality NFL players ( too many to count, but guys like: Jake Scott, Ryan Diem, Ryan Lilja, Steve McKinney, Joe Addai, Brandon Stokely, Mike Peterson, Marcus Washington, David Thornton, Cato June, Gary Brackett, Clint Session, etc)
Let’s not discount the young players still with the team that have shown potential: Pierre Garcon, Austin Collie Jacob Tamme, Pat Angerer, Kavell Conner, and yes, even Donald Brown?
I’ll never say the Colts front office was or is perfect, but to act like they’re haven’t found talent to help Manning out over the years is ridiculous. Likewise, to say the Colts haven’t had bad draft picks in those previous years is also disingenuous. Remember all the time it took us to find a consistent No. 2 WR behind Marvin Harrison before Polian hit on Reggie Wayne? I do (Do the names Jerome Pathon, E.G. Green or – gasp- Terrence Wilkins ring a bell with any of you?). I remember how most fans were pissed off that we’d picked another WR — yet none of them seem to be complaining now. Likewise with Dallas Clark — many thought we were foolish to nab an unpolished TE project in the first round. Yet that turned out OK.
Yes, we’re having a bad year. Yes, there need to be some changes (and some tough decisions) made. But before we declare ourselves the most dysfunctional team in the NFL, let’s get some freakin’ perspective. This is what the Browns go through EVERY year. We’re going through it once, after a decade of winning, and we’re likely to be back on the right track next year (with either a healthy Manning or Andrew Luck under center), so is it really that bad?
by Chris S. on Nov 28, 2011 4:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
75% of the players on your Pro-Bowl list are on this 0-11 team....
just sayin….
New Math: 2011-18 = 0-16
Clarification
@Omahacolt – I was referring to Brad’s post, not yours.
@Ayrshire – it would take more than football to make me “angry”. However, my point was that Brad is trying to act angry now, but he’s been all angry all the time since “The Decision.” Even going to the Superbowl that year wasn’t enough. It becomes meaningless, since his response to everything is the same.
I'm very confused as to why people are angry.
It’s not like the Colts look any different than we’ve expected them to for the last 12 weeks. What changed in the last 24 hours that people are all upset about?
by James Broschat on Nov 27, 2011 10:31 PM EST reply actions
losing still sucks
The team embarrassing itself sucks.
Hearing Bill Polian tell us everything is secretly fine sucks.
Seeing Marv looking old and thinking we’ll never see that kind of offense again in this town sucks.
What do you expect?
I'm not saying it doesn't suck. Losing always sucks.
But this outrage after every game saying “IT’S A NEW LOW! I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY’RE THIS BAD!” is just plain stupid.
by James Broschat on Nov 28, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know about you,
but I didn’t expect them to look this bad for the last 12 weeks. And, even if I did, would that prevent me from being angry and disgusted at the shit stew we’re being served every week? And, now that this team has been completely exposed,… yes….I’m pissed. I’m pissed that Irsay hired the worst excuse for a coach in NFL history to contribute to this ongoing mess. I’m pissed that it’s been allowed to get to this point. I’m pissed that no adjustments of any kind are ever made, and I’m pissed that our ‘illustrious’ owner lives on another planet and is oblivious to all of the multitude of problems that fester within this organization.
I didn’t expect them to look this bad for the last 12 weeks
What did you expect? We have no quarterback.
by James Broschat on Nov 28, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
Having no backup quarterback is
part of my issue with Polian. Other teams have lost great quarterbacks for a full season or part of a season and did quite well.
Name three teams to lose a QB of Peyton's caliber and do well.
by James Broschat on Nov 28, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
That's a trick question...
there have never been three QBs of Peyton’s caliber.
New Math: 2011-18 = 0-16
Exactly.
Brady and Rothlisberger have more super bowl titles though and when they went out, they kept the train rolling. I don’t know any team in NFL history that lost their starting quarterback and went winless.
Brady's team lost 8 wins.
Roethlisberger is nowhere near Peyton’s caliber. That Steelers team was built on defense.
And that’s only two.
by James Broschat on Nov 28, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
So what?
…if it’s only two. It’s two fairly elite teams which had their quarterbacks go out, and they didn’t fall apart completely. Quite the opposite actually. Don’t you think that says something about the competence of the people who constructed this mess here in Indy? Don’t answer that. Of course, you don’t.
Roethlisberger isn't elite.
And the Patriots hit the jackpot with Matt Cassel being the backup QB.
by James Broschat on Nov 28, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Great, engaging piece of writing. Fresh… INSIGHTFUL… mmmmmm it brought a feeling of warmth throughout my body.
by torontocoltsfan on Nov 27, 2011 10:33 PM EST reply actions
Must be something lost in translation to Canadian?
I find these articles or “writings” repetitive and uninformative. Sort of like "off with their head!’ We have our own Queen of Hearts.
by buymymonkey on Nov 27, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
can someone explain
in all seriousness, why Freeney gets such raves. i can see he gets pressures and occasional hits and sacks, strips even, but he is out of position so often and makes few tackles otherwise. is this all ‘scheme’? the way the colts want it to be? i am not a hater, but having trouble understanding his value.
Freeney's not a very good run supporter.
But that’s not why he’s so valuable. He’s great at rushing the passer. Phenomenal. He creates pressure and draws attention from other guys. At one point today the Panthers had him triple teamed.
by James Broschat on Nov 27, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
watch a game focusing only on him. Watch the offensive blocking scheme. Watch the running back.
Freeney is a pass rusher and his enemy is the tackle. One turnover or sack can change a game. The war between the end and tackle a mind game. Freeney isn’t looking at the current play only. It’s a matter of statistics. If he can get a sack during the game, the Colts most likely will win. He can take a few plays to set the tackle up. He might spin on three plays in a row, getting the tackle to prepare for that, then bull rush him. But if a run play is called, you might see Freeney read it, close inside and have to start over. Sometimes, as a pass rusher, Freeney is trying to take any path he can to the QB. The offense might play on that and let him get inside so they can round outside. Remember that the pass rush is meant to take away the pass. You don’t care if they run because the Colts are built to beat the other team through the air. The Colts want the other team to get their 4.2 per carry, and be destroyed by the 7.6 per completion.
That all goes to shit when there is no QB on the Colts.
Freeney is the most important bit of the Colts philosophy on the defense when Manning is behind center. Running the ball doesn’t beat the Manning Colts. Freeney can stop the run, but that isn’t his assignment—the stats say to pressure the passer and win and the Colts have in the past established their business model and stuck with it.
Since running the ball is now a valid way to beat the Colts, Brayton is splitting time with Freeney at right end.
Freeney was drafted with the idea that home runs were better than first base hits. Without him, the Colts defense under Manning doesn’t work. If the Colts fall into a pit of despair, Freeney isn’t the best guy to play in all of those losses. If manning returns, or another prolific passer supersedes him—Freeney will again show his value.
by wcwills on Nov 28, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why
It’s pretty self-explanatory as to why he is rated so high if you watch him.
by Coltsfan1345 on Nov 28, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
I do think he would be better-utilized in a different scheme
but his pass-rushing skill draws double and triple teams. That alone should open it up for Mathis and the UT to get lots of sacks. The fact that it often doesn’t (specifically for the UT, not Mathis) means the DT roster isn’t very good at pass rushing, the coverage sucks, or both. I’d go with option C, personally. But anyhow, Freeney makes the pass rush go. Watch the 2nd half of the 2009 Super Bowl for an example.
I just feel bad for Orlovsky
It looks like he’s headed towards being a QB on another 0-16 team, but this time he’s not being given the chance to do anything about it.
Pollak too
I love the effort he gives on half of the plays.
Conveying nothing but abject disgust at the current state of his pitiful franchise is all Jim Irsay should be doing. -bbs
If it does not, the only person ‘asleep’ is Jim Irsay himself, and is useless tweets written in an obviously shallow effort to convey ‘anger’ to fans ring hallow unless he is willing to enforce drastic change within the Colts. – bbs
GAH I’M SO CONFUSED! You want him to show disgust then he does show disgust but it’s clearly shallow because you know him best obviously and and and ..i give up.
I swear you have a template for these articles, they’re all recycled. ‘blah blah blah fire polian..blah blah blah if irsay doesn’t fire so and so then he’s a powerless owner who has transformed the team into the laughingstock of the entire NFL (because you would know) etc etc. I have a CRAZY idea – and i’m just spit balling here so roll with me on this one. Maybe Irsay is waiting until the offseason to make his changes? Ok, that’s enough of that silliness.
At any rate i agree with the whole ‘fire everyone’ movement but man… use a different tactic to get your point across. After about the second day it got old because literally all you write about is a tabloid hit piece on the front office. Day after day after day after day.
Write one article without one mention/hint/whisper of Polian(s)/Irsay/Caldwell/Hughes/Brown/Gonzalez. I double doggie dare you. Write about our impending free agents. Write about positions that the team should target in the draft. Write about some players you think could step up next season and you’d like to see get more playing time as we evaluate for next season. It can’t be THAT difficult. Your reader base will thank you.
by coltsfan89 on Nov 28, 2011 1:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
If you don't like the article
Don’t read them.
Seriously.
It’s a real simple concept.
Whatever you don’t like, don’t read.
If you are looking for me to take a different tact, sorry. Ain’t happening. We’ve been very clear and very up front with how we, collectively as writers and editors, are approaching this train wreck of a season. We want heads to roll. We want accountability. We want Jim Irsay to grow some balls and act like he actually owns his football team.
We do this again, and again, and again, and again because that is what it often takes to get the message across. Unless you want me to record an interpretive dance designed to express my disgust with this team, I don’t know any other ‘tactic’ to take when writing.
So, again, if you don’t like it, don’t read it.
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I get your stance, but I am confused about it
Brad, I am not trying to be confrontational but, aren’t journalists supposed to report on the news, not make the news? Perhaps running a blog site means there is a distinct difference. This lack of clarity might be what causes some readers to get pissed at the articles. I come to the site to hear from other fans in the comments section in order to get the pulse of ColtsNation.
I get that their are journalists that post their opinions, but when your goal is make sure that “we want heads to roll”, doesn’t that cross the line? Again, if you are just bloggers and not journalists, I believe you should clarify the point with the readers. It will allow the readers to put the articles into the right perspective/context. In running a blog, it is more about entertainment, not just reporting the news. That is how I view it. Thoughts?
by PurdueBoiler1995 on Nov 28, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Comparing '08 Patriots to '11 Colts
In the first game of the 2008 season, Brady blew out his knee and was done for the season. The Pats went 11-5 that year.
Without Manning the Colts are 0-11 and are on a fast track to be 0-16.
Why the big difference? What did a Bradyless Patriots team have that a Manningless Colts team does not have?
Coaching and a competent back up quarterback
by James Broschat on Nov 28, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Ah Jesis, we gonna do the Pats lost Brady in 2008 thing again??
Dear Diary, Kevin is so hot. Today he was raking the yard. God I wish he'd throw me into that pile of leaves.
Quality backup QB
…Great offensive line, Randy Moss, and decent defense.
by mlc2656 on Nov 28, 2011 9:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It all comes down to management.
Management is responsible for the product on the field…..coaches and players.
BECAUSE
Cassel is a decent NFL starting quarterback and New England played an unbelievably easy schedule.
So far this season the Colts have lost to:
the Browns (4-7)
the Bucs (4-7)
the Chiefs (4-7)
the Jags (3-8)
the Panthers (3-8)
not an unbelievably hard schedule.
New Math: 2011-18 = 0-16

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