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Win or Lose?


So it comes down to this: one last game. sixty minutes that determine whether the Colts get the #1 pick or the #2 pick. The Vikings lost, so there are only four possible scenarios with two possible endings:

1. The Colts and Rams both lose. The Colts get #1 pick.

2. The Colts and Rams both win: The Colts get #1 pick.

3. The Colts lose, the Rams win: the Colts get #1 pick.

4. The Colts win, the Rams lose: the Rams get #1 pick.

Given his willingness to not try to win when it doesn't matter (see: 2009 season), why would Bill Polian attempt to win the game next week against the Jaguars? If you ask me, we should sit our starters and play scrubs to ensure the #1 draft pick. If we win, sure, we'll all feel good for a few days, but then our season is over, and what do we have to look forward to? The #2 pick in the draft.

I say that in a season of 13 losses and 2 wins, one more loss isn't going to change anything except for the potential to set us up for either our next franchise QB, or trading Luck for a bunch of picks to rebuild.

I've been rooting for the Colts all season. Next Sunday I will be rooting for them to lose. Not for today, not for tomorrow, but for next year and the years to come.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.

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If only it were that simple

If we were resting for the playoffs and everything was clinched, I’d agree with you 100%. Hell, even with that not possible, I still agree with you that it’d be best for every current starter to rest next week, and for Curtis Painter to lead the team, with Craphonso Thorpe (anyone remember him?) getting re-signed and lining up as the #1 receiver.

But, it’s not that easy. Each and every player, from Reggie Wayne & Jeff Saturday to Robert Mathis and Antoine Bethea, wants to win the game. Hell, even the coaching staff may be auditioning for their own jobs, so you know they will want to make the best decisions they can possibly make next Sunday. Not because it’d hurt the chances of Indy getting Andrew Luck, but because many of the players are playing for new contracts. They don’t want to ride the bench in their final audition to prospective teams, nor do they want to play and only give 70% of their best effort. They want to run down the throats of Jacksonville, make Sportscenter-worthy receptions, force a few interceptions, and sack the living piss out of Blaine Gabbert.

If a mysterious flu infiltrates the Colts’ facilities this week and a few players get “rested”, then I don’t suppose it’d be a huge surprise. But, expecting them to sit every meaningful starter just so it’d be easier to lose… well, that seems a little far-fetched. Management is surely secretly praying that Mathis and Freeney get kidnapped on Friday then safely returned on Monday, but even if they tell their players/coaches to give a half-assed effort against the Jags, the team will still play as if their lives depend on it.

The Colts losing week 17 would make things a lot easier — sure, no arguments there. But, now that they have a quasi-competent quarterback, this team has shown that they won’t just roll over and play dead. I’m going to root like hell for the Packers tonight, the Falcons tomorrow, and the Rams next week against a 49ers team which I hope will have everything clinched and will rest their starters.

By the way, congrats for the 10th fanpost that covers basically the exact same concept which everyone else has already written in the past few days. Unfortunately, you do not win a prize.

by DonkeyBoner on Dec 25, 2011 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

You play to win the game

Believe in Blue.
Marshall Manning, Colts QB, 2032-

by stonewall12345678 on Dec 25, 2011 6:11 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Rest the star players.

The Vikings didn’t do that, and that might have cost them the 2012-season as well due to APs very serious injury. And to add insult to injury, they won the game and is now out of contention for 1st overall.

by Peter Storgaard on Dec 26, 2011 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

Ethics.

Pat McAfee 2012 Pro Bowl bound!
Anthony Calvillo - 72,382 passing yards - pro football's all-time leader
Jon Stewart for President 2016
OCCUPY BILL POLIAN'S OFFICE

by KBUnitz on Dec 26, 2011 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

You need to check out the pine riders and see if they can play now

They need to see if guys like Gonzo can play, Hughes? We need to see a ton of action from those guys to see if they are worth wasting money on. There is nothing to be gained by winning another game and much much more to lose. We are going to lose 4 or 5 starters anyway. With the newer rookie salary cap, it should drive overall vet salaries down and we will not survive having a bunch of guys in the low to mid 30’s asking top dollar. Basically it does not matter if we win one more for the vets. That happened against the Texans. Hopefully things will change but most of those guys are going to spit in the eye of Indy as soon as the Jets or who ever backs up the money truck or the ability to play with other vets in hopes of winning a Super Bowl. Seems like if it is even money being offered they bail to the new team. The team need to do what is right for the team for the future and playing all the starters all game is not the answer.

by DeltaHoosier on Dec 27, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

I would vote for win, but

there is a huge difference in talent level/value between Luck and the next best player.

by Ty46 on Dec 27, 2011 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

Outside the Lines Podcast....

EspnRadio has a podcast of the Outside the Lines from 12/27 regarding what the Colts or Rams should they have the number one pick.

by thomasezekiel77 on Dec 27, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Draft Luck....

Ever since it has been a possibility that the Colts would have a chance to draft Andrew Luck, I have been for drafting him and moving forward with him as the franchise quarterback. Unfortunately, I think they will win this weekend and will not have the chance to get him.

by thomasezekiel77 on Dec 27, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The only difference is the goal.

Let me explain. In 2009, the Colts chose to sit their starters, which caused them to lose a game they could have won. The explanation given was that they had a goal that was more important than the result of this one game. That goal was “healthy starters for the Super Bowl.”

This week, the Colts have to decide if they will sit their starters, causing them to lose this game that they could win, so that they could meet a goal that is more important for the future of this team than the result of this one game. That goal is getting the #1 draft pick.

Please explain to me how there is a “huge difference.”

Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!

The Colts: We play more football in the fourth quarter than some teams play all year!

by Picky on Dec 29, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

WIN

You only spent 13 weeks tanking

Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?

by WreckNTexan on Dec 29, 2011 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

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