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Archie Manning Changes Tune, Now Saying Andrew Luck And Peyton Could Be Teammates

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Ah yes. The media game.

Player sends representative out to chat up the media in order to get his or her thoughts in the new cycle without the thoughts coming directly from said player. The news cycle churns the story, and the results are not quite what the player intended. Player then sends rep out again to 'clarify' the remarks, and the process repeats itself.

Such a process is now playing out with Archie Manning, media mouthpiece for his sons Peyton and Eli.

Yesterday, after he quite audibly said that Peyton Manning would not want to be on the same team as Andrew Luck, Archie was back on the media circuit hoping to clarify his remarks.

On a Tuesday phone interview with Dan Patrick, Archie began downplaying his earlier comments:

Manning clarified his remarks that Peyton and Andrew Luck likely couldn’t co-exist in Indianapolis. Here’s why: "Andrew Luck doesn’t look like the kind of quarterback who’s going to sit."

Dan asked Manning what he would do if he ran the Colts. "You gotta see where Peyton is health-wise," Archie said. "Hopefully that will clear up in one month, two months, three months."

Yesterday, Archie did a complete about face when speaking with ESPN.com.

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"I’m sure they could [coexist]," Archie Manning said in a Wednesday phone interview, via ESPN.com. "Andrew is a great young man and we’ve enjoyed getting to know him. He and Peyton have a friendship, and I’m one of the few people out there that’s not really concerned about this deal. All good people respect each other and I’m sure this will all shake out."

So, yeah. Looks like Archie might have gotten the 'WTF ARE YOU SAYING TO THE MEDIA, DAD!' treatment from his second eldest son. As Mike Florio noted, Archie now seems like a guy who was told to zip it.

Archie knows what Peyton wants. If Peyton is telling Archie that Peyton’s current rehab efforts amount to "sissy work," Peyton surely is telling Archie what Peyton wants to do when Peyton is cleared to do more manly things.

Generally, Archie sounded like a guy who had been told by Peyton to zip it, at least for now. Still, given that Archie and Oliver Luck talked by phone the night before Archie expressed doubt that their two sons want to be on the same team, a plan surely exists. While it all may be contingent on Peyton being healthy enough to play, there’s a plan. And Archie gave us all a sneak peek of it on Tuesday.

All this is part of the behind-the-scenes-tug-o-war between Peyton and the Polians, a war that will only escalate if and when the Colts clinch the No. 1 overall pick.

I hate to use this phrase because it conjures up images of Terrell Owens and Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, but 'get your popcorn ready.' The Colts play on the gridiron this year might be a fright fest, but the backroom brawling that is happening between Peyton and the Polians is certainly entertaining.

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ARCHIE is one of the best scramblers of all time!!!!

I hate to say I am old enough, that I used to watch him when I was in college at Tulane, he could always scramble away form trouble!!!!

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Dec 8, 2011 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

Can't scramble away from his mouth

Seems to stir up controversy every few years. Kinda hard to get away public comments in this day and age.

What do I really have left in life but this place? It ain't much of a home, but it's all I got. Well, g******it. I'll be damned if I let some foreign, graffiti writin', soul suckin', son of a bitch in an oversized cowboy hat and boots take my friend's souls and sh** 'em down the visitors toilet!

by Guy LeDouche on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

As Archie said,

I hope it all shakes out too. I really want Peyton to retire in Indy. And, it didn’t hurt Rogers to be the back-up for a while. Maybe Peyton will come back and play well for another year or two and Andrew Luck will end up being that much better of a player for having been on the same team with Peyton.

by Ayrshire on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

Wait, what?

There is a “war” between the Polians and Peyton? WTF did I miss? Was this over that one comment that him and Bill hadn’t talked about drafting his backup when Bill said they had?

by SunnyD1988 on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

It was a misunderstanding

Bill never said when they had the conversation, just that they had in fact talked about drafting peyton’s successor at one point. Peyton promptly stated that Bill might have had that conversation with him a couple years ago. Nothing to see hear. Move along.

by BswizzleKdizzle on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Kinda what I thought

Especially considering the source.

by SunnyD1988 on Dec 8, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

The entire "war" took place right here on this blog in articles written by BBS.

This guy is the king of taking things out of context. Archie mentioned that Luck was the kind of guy who could step right in and play in the NFL. In the same conversation, he said that it may not be good for Luck and Manning to be on the same team.

Naturally, that means that Peyton and Andrew absolutely will not coexist on the same team and there’s no way the Colts will take the best college prospect in the last decade, right?

by NFLFan83 on Dec 8, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor journalism

First of all this statement sounds really stupid right now:

Get used to this very real, very stark realization, folks. 2011 will be Peyton Manning’s last in a Colts uniform.Anyone thinking different isn’t thinking at all.

Secondly, what I heard from Archie was that it didn’t make sense to sit Luck because he’s NFL ready today and shouldn’t sit behind a starter. He didn’t say that Luck wouldn’t want to or that Manning would have a problem with it, he said it doesn’t make sense. The headliner story that was ass-u-me-d came off as credible news.

Yes Peyton, probably did have a conversation with his dad after the first set of statements. No, I don’t think Archie has been a puppet for either side since.

"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy

by Mark Olson on Dec 8, 2011 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

umm....

The general consensus amongst most that cover the Colts feels this way, it isn’t specific to him or this site.

Paul K – http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/31581/with-new-luck-colts-best-moving-manning
Nate Dunlevey

Amongst others.

by coltsfanbeforemanning on Dec 8, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say it was just this site

I was commenting on all media outlets. I read and heard over and over what he said and my perspective was more that he was saying Luck deserves better than sitting in wait behind another QB. Nothing he said hinted towards one or the other becoming disgruntled if they were both on the same team.

"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy

by Mark Olson on Dec 8, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hello, my name is tim55, and I am a Colts fan.......

colts annonymous: clapclapclapclap….Hi tim55!

tim55: I just want to tell my story, uh………..AAARRRGGGG!!!!

colts annonymous: Oh…Look, there is blood shooting out of his eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by tim55 on Dec 8, 2011 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

Why not just ask Archie?

After all aren’t bloggers journalists? (or at least editorialists)…

-- Life is to short to take everything serious. Especially sports blogs.

by indymike on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

The only war with polians..

.. Is the one between them and the bloggers without official press recognition.

Not!

Seriously, this is now TMZ like angles to colt stories. If anyone told archie to zip-it, it was because leverage of the “kings ransom” potential draft day trade of 1 overall, is compromised a bit with this nonsense.

Andrew Luck is a man of character and integrity. If a 1st overall selection could agree to sitting behind the GOAT, it would probably be him. He respects the game. He is compared to Peyton for many reasons. He has a little friendship with Peyton already. He could have declared for the draft last year to secure his future financially but chose to go back to his team for another year in college; a team that has no other nfl talent and just lost their coach to the NFL, our very own captain comeback, Jim Harbough.
I’m not saying we will take Luck and still keep Peyton another couple years, simultaneously. I’m saying it’s not impossible. The doomsday, megative spins are tiresome.

The most likely scenario, of 18 is back, is to trade down for a good ransom (see julio jones x3), and grab someone like Griffin the III, a solid wr, and secondary, in a blessing in disguise re-talent filled draft, only possible due to the misfortunes of this forgettable season.

So ya, they could exist (luck and peyton), but thats not the point. The real reason Archie was told to pipe down, is so we don’t lose some leverage and reveal the cards.

So enough with the conspiracy theories of Peyton vs Polian…. Please?!

by ColtKing on Dec 8, 2011 2:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I dont think they are Conspiracy Theories

Peyton vs Polian is VERY real

Peyton doesnt like Polian anymore,(Serioulsy, look at what Polina has put around him, no GOOD FA’s whichis worse cuz we’ve missed on a bunchof first rounders, and the coaching is abysmal)Dungy didnt aprove of him either when he retired an he told a certian few people that

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Dec 8, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

News to me.

You certainly didnt provide any evidence. Care to fill us in? He doesnt like them according to who? Whispers in the wind? Birds chirping secrets on trees? Seriously, this is getting ridiculous with all the bs that gets floated.

Archie practically insinuated that peyton
Would retire rather than not play for colts.

Please lead me the way to my enlightenment regarding this peyton hate of the poloans, and now this dungy hating them as well.

I call shenanigans.
Smells like “didley-poop” in the words of Jim Mora

by ColtKing on Dec 8, 2011 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with ColtKing

Why would a player sign a deal to finish out his career with a GM he hates? I honestly believe that Peyton still believes in BP. There has been a lot of twisting of words and stretching the truth to try and divide the two. The Polian v. Manning whether he’d be okay drafting luck was blown out of proportion. It sounded to me more like PM was trying to correct the media regarding what Polian had incinuated more than calling Polian a liar.

"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy

by Mark Olson on Dec 8, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

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