Are The Colts Really The Third Best Drafting Team In The NFL Since 2006?
Reader torontocoltsfan was kind enough to post something on an article written by Bay Area Comcast Sports writer Matt Maiocco. This article presented a study of the 32 NFL teams over the past five years and how those teams scored with their draft selections. According to Maiocco:
CSN Bay Area conducted a study of each team's drafts over the past five years. The survey took into consideration, among other factors, where teams selected; how many star players were acquired; booms and busts at the top of the draft; late-round gems; and how the players selected contributed to wins and losses.
Now, I'm a little confused on who was, in fact, being surveyed here. The writers at CSN? NFL personnel people? Not sure. What does seem sure to me is that this is a highly subjective 'study,' and not one I entirely agree with. It's also strongly misleading, especially when evaluating how effective (or ineffective) the Colts have been in the draft that last five years.
In the article, the Colts are ranked third overall of 32 teams. Ahead of them are the Saints and Packers, the two teams that just so happened to win the last two Super Bowls.
After the jump, I'm going to pick this survey's results apart a little bit, and get at the heart of this very flawed study.
Again, special thanks to torontocoltsfan for bringing it to our attention.
Here's what Maiocco wrote when discussing the Colts:
3. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
Number of picks: 41
Still on team: 28
Starters: 9
Best pick: S Antoine Bethea, 2006
Worst pick: OT Tony Ugoh, 2007
Overall: In the past five years, the Colts' first selections came at Nos. 31, 27, 59, 32 and 30. Yet, the Colts have done an admirable good job of adding talent and depth to a team that already had championship-caliber nucleus. The Colts have managed to achieve success in the sixth round, with the additions of two-time Pro Bowl safety Antoine Bethea, receiver Pierre Garcon and starting left tackle Charlie Johnson. Their lone early swing-and-miss was Ugoh, chosen No. 42 overall in 2007. He was cut before last season.
Of the top five teams (Packers, Saints, Jets, Falcons, and Colts), all have acquired nine starters in five years of drafting. The Colts have the second most picks of that group (Atlanta has 42 picks) and have the most players still on the team (28).
Now, I don't know how information like that validates a team being the third best in the NFL. I mean, The Buffalo Bills (ranked 32st) have 23 of their 43 picks from 2006-2010 still on their team, and eight are starters. The Carolina Panthers (ranked 24th) have 34 of their 42 picks still on the team, with thirteen as starters.
What needs to happen here is some deeper digging. Just because someone is a 'starter' doesn't mean they are 'good.' Also, if a sixth round pick is starting, but a first rounder that year is sitting second or third on the depth chart, I don't see how that translates into draft 'success' for the team. Factoring in draft value (where the player was taken), salary cap, and the effect the drafted player had on the team in relation to other 'weak areas' all have to be factored into the equation.
Now, maybe Maiocco and CSN did that, and I'm just not seeing it.
As they say, a draft's true 'effect' isn't felt until three years down the line. I, personally, think that's a load of bull. Rookies are regularly asked to step up and make plays, and the apparently accepted notion of the 'first to second year talent leap' tells me that a draft class can actually be effectively evaluated after just one year.
I won't (and can't) go into any specifics with other teams, but I did flinch a bit when I saw Maiocco write that Reggie Bush was the Saints 'worst' pick from 2006-2010. Considering the players like Robert Meachem (first round, 2007) and Sedrick Ellis (7th overall pick, 2008) having exactly been setting the league on fire, I found the 'Bush sucks' statement a bit odd. I'm no fan of Reggie Bush myself, but he is a catalyst for the Saints offense and special teams. Meachuem and Ellis aren't catalysts at all. Ellis played his first full season as a pro just last year, and Meachem still hasn't developed into a consistent starter at WR.
For the Colts, I absolutely agree with Maiocco that Bethea is the best pick in five years while Ugoh is the worst. However, when you dig deeper and get into the details of the last five drafts, I don't see how this team is third best. If they are, then that number is heavily skewed by the 2006 draft, which brought in an excellent haul for the Colts. However, from 2007-2010, the draft hauls have been pretty putrid, especially when it comes to finding quality starters.
2006:
1- Joseph Addai (Pro Bowl starter)
2- Tim Jennings (decent reserve, gone after four seasons)
3- Freddy Keiaho (decent reserve and sometime starter, gone after four seasons)
4- Michael Toudouze (bad guard, one-and-off roster, used as warm body)
5- Charlie Johnson (excellent utility guard and tackle, starter)
6- Antoine Bethea (Pro Bowl safety, starter)
7- T.J. Rushing (medicore corner and return man, gone after four seasons).
This was a truly excellent draft at a very critical moment. The Colts had lost Edgerrin James to free agency that summer, but the managed to get three starters and some excellent depth.
2007:
1- Anthony Gonzalez (never consistent, chronically injured; has only played in two of four seasons)
2- Tony Ugoh (bust; value made worse by fact that Colts traded a 2008 first round pick to get Ugoh; gone from team after three seasons; only started two seasons)
3- Dante Hughes (gone after three years, never started)
3- Quinn Pitcock (played one season, quit football)
4- Brannon Condren (gone after one year)
4- Clint Session (reliable starter who is likely gone this season)
5- Roy Hall (hardly ever played)
5- Michael Coe (reserve, hardly saw the field)
7- Keyunta Dawson (horrible reserve tackle and semi-decent reserve end with no pass rushing skills).
Only one consistent starter emerged from this group, and he was a linebacker (a position the Colts turnover pretty regularly). A truly awful draft class, especially when you consider that Tarik Glenn had retired prior to training camp that year. It gets even worse when you consider that in 2011 it is possible that not one member from this draft class will start for the Colts.
2008:
2- Mike Pollak (a terrible starting offensive guard, has no business starting anywhere)
3- Philip Wheeler (lost his starting job multiple times, little more than a reserve now)
4- Jacob Tamme (excellent special teams player and reserve TE)
5- Marcus Howard (gone after one year)
6- Tom Santi (reserve, gone after two years)
6- Pierre Garcon (excellent value pick, starter)
7- Jamey Richard (occasional starter and reserve guard, not very good).
Only one real starter from this draft class, and that’s Garcon. I don’t count Pollak because calling Pollak are starting-caliber guard is a big stretch. When the only true starter the team can muster comes from the sixth round, that's not good. It's also worth noting that Garcon isn't exactly a reliable contributor for the Colts. He drops a ton of easy balls, and often has serious concentration lapses. Still, to get this kind of value from the sixth round is excellent. However, that value is offset by how poor the talent haul was overall in the earlier rounds.
2009:
1- Donald Brown (never a starter unless an injury to Addai; lost his reserve job to Dominic Rhodes late in 2010 season; now little more than team’s third or fourth RB)
2- Fili Moala (starter, but hasn’t been very productive)
3- Jerraud Powers (starter, excellent pick)
4- Austin Collie (we should consider him a starter, and he was an excellent pick)
4- Terrance Taylor (didn’t make 53-man roster that year, awful pick)
6- Curtis Painter (HA!)
7- Jaimie Thomas (never started, hardly ever seen the field
7- Pat McAfee (excellent pick, new punter and kickoff man)
Unlike the last two draft classes, Powers, Collie, and McAfee provide excellent production as starters. Moala isn’t anything worth celebrating, and Brown is close to being another first round bust. However, if not for this draft class, which is very heavily flawed considered the lack of production from top picks Brown and Moala, the Colts are likely not a playoff team.
2010:
1- Jerry Hughes (So far, a terrible pick, 6 total tackles and no starts; looked terrible on special teams too)
2- Pat Angerer (decent back-up)
3- Kevin Thomas (injury prone in college, got hurt in his first practice; so far, completely wasted pick)
4- Jacques McClendon (never saw the field in 2010)
5- Brody Eldridge (solid blocking TE, reserve)
7- Ricardo Mathews (semi-decent reserve tackle)
7- Kavell Conner (intriguing potential starter, played severla games due to injuries to starters)
7- Ray Fisher (didn't make 53-man roster, out of football)
The only potential starter we may have out of this group is Conner, a 7th rounder, who will likely replace Session (drafted only four years ago). That’s poor value overall, especially when picks 1-4 are currently not starting caliber players. In Hughes' case, he isn't even a good reserve. Also, though Pat Angerer started 11 games in 2010, he is NOT a starter. Those starts were due to injuries to other players (like Session, Brackett, and the overall ineffectiveness of Philip Wheeler). Angerer’s a middle linebacker, and Indy already has a ton of bread invested in Gary Brackett.
So, in five drafts, the Colts have managed to only gain seven true starters, not nine. By my count, Addai, Bethea, CJ, Garcon, Collie, Powers, and McAfee are quality starters. Session has likely lost his starting job (if you listen to Bill Polian, that is), and Fili Moala or Mike Pollak aren't what I would call draft success stories. They're simply starting because the Colts don't have much talent at those respective positions.
Now, where this gets nasty is when you take 2006 out of the equation. When you do that, only four true starters have emerged in the last four drafts. That's pretty bad.
Meanwhile, the rest of the starters on the roster were either drafted prior to 2006 or were players who went undrafted and were signed as rookie free agents:
Peyton Manning- 1998
Reggie Wayne- 2001
Dallas Clark- 2003
Kyle DeVan- undrafted, signed 2009
Jeff Saturday- undrafted, signed 1999
Ryan Diem- 2001
Dwight Freeney- 2002
Daniel Muir- undrafted, signed 2008
Robert Mathis- 2003
Gary Brackett- undrafted, signed 2003
Tyjuan Hagler- 2005
Kelvin Hayden- 2005
Melvin Bullitt- undrafted, signed 2007
It's worth noting that not a single player remains on the Colts roster from the 2004 NFL Draft. Not one. Bob Sanders was the last, and he was released recently after two seasons of landing on IR.
Now, I think what's critical to consider in evaluating all this is how reliant the Colts are when it comes to finding talent in the draft. Unlike a team like the Jets (ranked 4th in CSN's study) the Colts typically do not sign veteran free agents to fill roster needs. Thus, when they miss on a Ugoh, a Gonzo, a Pollak, or a Hughes, it REALLY hurts the talent pool.
Speaking of the Jets, I really don't understand how they can be ranked fourth and the Colts third. I hate the Jets, but it's folly to think the Colts have drafted better than them in recent years. From 2006-2010, the Jets got D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, Dustin Keller, Mark Sanchez, and Darrelle Revis using their first round picks. Yeah, I now they busted with Gholston, but they scored BIG TIME getting Ferguson, Mangold, Keller, Sanchez, and Revis. That is truly maximizing your first round talent, which no team can ever afford to 'bust.'
Right now, the Colts have already busted Ugoh, and both Donald Brown and Jerry Hughes have 'bust-in-waiting' written all over them.
So, again, when you dig into the details a little bit, I'm not so sold on CSN's survey. The reality is the Colts have done a poor job drafting the last four years, and it shows.
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The article went out the window
when he had Meriweather as the Pats’ best pick. And while I feel that the Packers have had the best drafts in the league over the last 5 years, it was because they hit on the 06-08 drafts, and everyone else didn’t. Says a lot for both the talent in those classes, and the role luck plays in building a successful team.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 5, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions
is it luck
or do they just know what they’re doing?
by muncie_in_this on Apr 5, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Why is it automatically luck and not good decision making? Luck is more about not having injuries that cripple your players thus making them targets for criticism as well as your front office taking heat for not having clairvoyance to avoid such predicaments.
Drafting is a lot of luck
and good decision making. There are some players that literally everybody thinks will be great players, but they don’t turn out that way.
Drugs are bad.
by An Actual Fan of the Colts on Apr 5, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Tim Couch
"Roll up, wait a minute
Let me put some kush up in it" - Dr. Dre
by P0RKINS2 on Apr 5, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good Coaching
Luck is a factor, but so is good coaching. Look at how much better Vick became when he was on a team that has a great quarterback coach. Manning has incredible qualities, and they were helped by good coaching from Tom Moore.
Over the years, the Colts have had some good picks. They’ve selected some guys with great qualities and done a good job of coaching them.
Luck is getting Brady at 199.
Luck is Rodgers falling. Even the top rated guys (like Leaf) can bust out, and cripple a team. There’s unlucky too. Injuries, or a player’s mental make-up can turn a good player with promise into an insurance salesman.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 6, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Here is my question: If someone found a source that said the Colts were the 3rd Worst Drafting team in the league, would BBS go to the trouble to question and deconstruct that opinion?
I doubt it. This has his attention, because it is inconsistent with what he has posted ad nauseum that Polian is a bad guy who has had several bad consecutive drafting classes.
by moocow on Apr 5, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Not just this guy.
In the Lindy’s Draft Guide this year, they have the Colts, Falcons, Packers, Pats, Raiders, Steelers, and Bucs all tied for best in the last 5 years, with a B+.
"Cat in the wall, eh? Ok, now you're talking my language. I know this game."
-Charlie
by Addai Another Aday on Apr 5, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Apples and oranges.
You state that the Jets were a better drafting team because they scored D’Brickashaw Ferguson (1st round #4 overall), Nick Mangold (1st round #29 overall), Dustin Keller (1st round #30 overall), Mark Sanchez (1st round #5 overall), and Darelle Revis (1st round #14 overall) but you dont take into account that 2 of the Jets first round picks you listed were top 5 overall and one was top 15. I think it is safe to say that the Colts’ odds of getting better plyers would have increased if they were picking in the top 5 or 15. Who is the last player the Colt’s selected in the top 15? Freeney? The survey specifically states that one of the criteria was where teams selected, and apparently the fact that the Colts consistently get talent despite drafting at the bottom of rounds gave them an edge (at least in the survey at hand) over the Jets and other teams who get starters at the top of the draft. Im not saying their metrics are right or wrong just that the facts they used should be taken into account when forming your opinion.
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Apr 5, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions
They had to trade up for both Sanchez and Revis from the 17th and 25th picks respectively. So you still have to give us some credit.
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Apr 5, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Question for BBS
Your criticism of the Front Office lately seems very strong so I think one thing that might help us relate with your criticism is to ask you to define what makes a good Front Office in your mind and specifically for this topic how that relates to the draft. Obviously we can criticize certain roster moves and draft picks on a case by case basis but when our team has won double-digit games every year since 2001 we can’t be doing THAT bad. Yet, you seem entirely surprised by outsider opinions (and the opinion that I agree with) that our Front Office does a good job.
So BSS, I ask you, what is your definition of a best case scenario draft and further, what makes a draft bad vs. good?
Some ideas to define draft success in your opinion – how many starting years should you have from your players, how many years should that draft class play for your team, if a 7th round compensatory pick goes to Pro Bowls yet your 1st round pick does not how does that effect the overall success of the draft for that year?
Top 3 is generous...
But they’ve clearly done a SOLID job of drafting. They’ve added a bunch of quality starters, found late round gems (Collie, Garcon, Bethea), and added talent to a bunch of positions (Connor, Tamme, Moala). Polian hasn’t been stellar with his early round selections – partly because of poor talent evaluations, partly due to bad luck with injuries. But if it wasn’t for Powers, Garcon, Collie, Angerer, Tamme, Moala, Bethea, McAfee, CJ – we don’t make the playoffs this year, and we don’t make the SB last year.
BTW – how do you consider Angerer a ‘decent backup’?? I’d be embarrassed to write something like that. Not only did he start 11 games, he excelled as a rookie. At times, I thought he was our best LB. He played extremely well both at MLB & OLB – and even remained a starter when Gary Brackett returned to the lineup.
"How do you consider Angerer a 'decent backup'?"
Because Polian sucks and Angerer was a reach.
Drugs are bad.
by An Actual Fan of the Colts on Apr 5, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Particularly considering he was a rookie
Part of the thesis of the argument hinges on ‘bad’ draft classes in 2010 and 2009, but it’s still way too early to be be evaluating the success of those classes. I know Jerry Hughes hasn’t done anything. He’s also behind two Pro Bowlers, kinda hard to get on the field. Polian likes to find replacements at key positions before they’re needed. See him drafting Gonzalez in the first round when they already had Harrison and Wayne? Hughes is the same kind of pick. He knows Mathis and Freeney are getting up there in years, and particularly Mathis probably won’t be back when his contract is up. Maybe you’re disappointed Hughes didn’t get 10 sacks as a rookie from the secret 3rd defensive end spot, but the kid’s got a 5 year deal for a reason. Give him a little time.
And the eval of Angerer is worse. Getting as many snaps as he did, even considering he’s a rookie, is a great scenario for a 2nd round pick. The Patriots, my team, got a couple good linebackers in the second. Brandon Spikes played on running downs through the year until his late suspension. Jermaine Cunningham started out the season mostly playing in the Nickel, but earned himself a spot in the starting rotation later on. Both I would consider excellent rookie seasons for 2nd rounders.
by 108 on Apr 5, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it April already?
We have this debate every year…. Must a draftee contribute right away, or is it acceptable to plan on a two or three year plan? Especially for first/early rounders. I have no idea if Hughes is good or not, but having two pro-bowlers ahead of him is a luxury that enables (or makes easier for) us to draft a guy like Hughes as he bulks up and learns the pro game. I have nothing against BBS or anyone on this board, but these are exactly the types of virtual bar counter arguments that make this site awesome. Go COLTS!
by taipei_coltsfan on Apr 5, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeez, where were you guys when I was trying to explain this
to RamblinWreck7 not long ago? We had like, a 3 day long debate about Angerer turning out much, much better than anyone anticipated and he refused to admit it.
I think maybe his man-crush on Philip Wheeler may have influenced his argument though? ;)
JK RamblinWreck
Peyton Manning = GFQTWHESINTHOEF
by coltsjunkie44 on Apr 5, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh BBS
It has gotten to the point that I check the author of the article before reading. If BBS wrote the article, I skip the article 95% of the time because I know it will be incredibly biased against the Colts front office or just ridiculous and needlessly inflammatory. I read this one because 18to88 had agreed with our ranking and noted that Colts fans do not realize how bad drafting goes for most teams. I wanted to see how BBS could refute that sentiment. His classification of Pat Angerer says it all. I will probably get banned for this despite my very few posts on here, but I am tired of keeping quiet.
Why do people love Pat Angerer?
For a sucky defense, you’d think he saved the world with some of these comments. I agree Angerer is pretty good, but it’s not like he’s any better than Wheeler or Haggler. Just look at our run defense towards the end of the year with Mookie and without Mookie. It says it all.
by RamblinWreck7 on Apr 5, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's better than Wheeler AND Hagler
Not only on defense… but on special teams also. And everyone knows how crucial it is for the Colts to have special teams players that will step up.
Peyton Manning = GFQTWHESINTHOEF
by coltsjunkie44 on Apr 5, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
Considering how bad our special teams was… how was it any better with Angerer?
by RamblinWreck7 on Apr 5, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they are all about the same.
Our defense played the good with Mookie and our defense played bad without Mookie. The linebackers weren’t the reason for our defenses improved play, it was the D-line.
by RamblinWreck7 on Apr 5, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If you have a bad D-line
Even great linebackers will struggle against the run because they’re getting overrun with blockers that prevent them from doing their work, which is reading and pursuing and tackling.
I would therefore consider defensive tackles more important in the run game, but once you do have them in place, you can notice the difference between good and bad linebacker play.
by 108 on Apr 6, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
And Philip Wheeler has played just as well as Angerer with good DT play.
by RamblinWreck7 on Apr 7, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That's your opinion.
Drugs are bad.
by An Actual Fan of the Colts on Apr 7, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
BBS,
I’m proud of you. I only skimmed over it, but this article has a lot of facts in it. I might have missed some of it, but so far this doesn’t look like one of your typical Polian hate articles.
Facts?
BBS offering his opinion on the quality of each pick is somehow providing facts? Please fully read the article first. “Angerer is a decent backup” = opinion, not fact. “Brown and Hughes are busts-in-waiting” = opinion, not fact.
I didn't have time to read all of it.
I thought a breakdown of each year looked pretty good. I guess the non Polian hate part about the article made it look even better than it actually was.
by RamblinWreck7 on Apr 5, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is that BBS didn't constantly criticize Polian in this article.
Which is surprising.
by RamblinWreck7 on Apr 5, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The whole article is Polian criticism.
Which of course, isn’t bad in itself, but it’s an old trick by now.
Drugs are bad.
by An Actual Fan of the Colts on Apr 5, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
There are
still articles to come, be sure…he didn`t forgot.
"The way a team plays as a whole determines its success. You may have the greatest bunch of individual stars in the world, but if they don't play together, the club won't be worth a dime."
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Peyton Manning = GFQTWHESINTHOEF
by coltsjunkie44 on Apr 5, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Bah, image fail... here go!

Peyton Manning = GFQTWHESINTHOEF
by coltsjunkie44 on Apr 5, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
?
It’s worth it? What was the point lol?
by RamblinWreck7 on Apr 5, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Also BBS...
How are you so flabbergasted by the Jets being rated lower than the Colts? We may have had Tony Ugoh… but the Jets had a pretty massive miss with both Vernon Gholston and Kyle Wilson.
Sanchize is also a very overrated pick and doesn’t deserve half of the credit he gets. Sure, he makes some good throws every once in awhile… but he also has a phenomenal receiving corp (which includes a Super Bowl MVP free agent acquisition) who can catch up to overthrown balls or adjust when he makes completely awful throws. Not only that, but if I remember correctly Sanchez had the number one amount of dropped interceptions by defenders this past season (15).
While the Jets do have some good draft picks… they have an owner who’s more willing to buy a team and put all of his eggs in one basket. I appreciate that the franchise I love is willing to stick with what they’re good at and draft talent to replace departing talent instead of just buying expensive, big name players who hold more risk than reward.
This is why the Colts are a better drafting team than the Jets.
Peyton Manning = GFQTWHESINTHOEF
Please do not say that Braylon “Butterfingers” Edwards is phenominal. This guy cant hold a stone monkeys jock strap.
Dirty Sanchez is way over rated and if my Browns had a decent GM that year, we would have gotten monsterous value for that trade. instead we had an “I can do it all” coach, who couldn’t and is now gone.
Be happy, you guys have the best front office in the NFL….
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." - Joe Hayden, Cleveland Browns.
That's the Packers, apparently...
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
by insertscreenname on Apr 6, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
So, I’m a browns fan, and again like last year I’m calling for the Colts to move up, and take a need. Cleveland would be happy to trade back and get more players, your team needs some really top 5 defensive talent. Hope Poliian sees this and pulls the trigger… Holmgren & Heckert would jump on it.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." - Joe Hayden, Cleveland Browns.
Is Session really gone??
I dont see how the Colts let him go. Hes an outstanding player when healthy, and if were going to rely on tiny Kavell Connor (who is pretty good) to stay healthy and play 16 games then I think we’re in big trouble. Gotta re-sign Clint!!
Hey BBS...
If your so down on the Colts 1st round “busts” lately, how bout doing some research and looking at players taken within 5-10 picks of when the Colts selected, to see if we missed on some great players?? I’d be interested to see that (and I dont feel like looking it up myself!) You can’t just say our picks are bad and then praise the Jets for getting top-10 guys IN THE TOP 10! We dont ever pick that high…because we have a good team!! Teams that suck pick in the top 10. You need a little perspective when blasting our front office…
Look no further than the Ravens.
They have had some great 1st round picks lately with Haloti Ngata and Michael Oher in the low to mid 20’s. I don’t remember any others though.
by RamblinWreck7 on Apr 7, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions

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