I was over at the packers blog and they had an interesting debate going on about which QB you would rather have Manning or Rodgers. So the argument is simple "which QB had a better year last year and looking at their entirety which would you rather have going into next season?" Some of the arguments that have been made after the jump.
Take them as you will. Link to the discussion is here
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->SpartaChris<!-- google_ad_section_end -->- To be honest, I have no problem with Manning being ranked above Rodgers in terms of who the better QB is today. The raw stats don't always tell the story, and Manning has been at the top of his game for so long that he's earned the #1 or 2 spot.
You could make the Argument that Rodgers was better last year, but as far as the best in the game over an entire body of work, I have no issue with it being Brady, Manning, then Rodgers, in that order.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->18to88<!-- google_ad_section_end -->- It depends on the question. If the question is, "Who had the better 2010?", then the answer is Rodgers. If the question is who is better overall, I think Manning's track record is longer and more steady than Rodgers. If the question is who do I want in 2011, I expect the Colts offense to have a monster year.
Aaron Rodgers has been as good as any quarterback in football for the past two years, but that's no guarantee he'll continue playing at that level. History is littered with QBs who have a couple of stellar years only to have their play drop off due to injury or other factors.
He's a wonderful player, and there's every reason to think he'll continue being one.
It would be interesting to see how he'd fare in a situation like Manning's last year where he had to throw some 200 more times than Rodgers did.
I consider Rodgers a top five QB along with Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, and Manning. Which one is the best in any given season will always be difficult to determine. That's the tier, however, and he's earned his place on it.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->PackersRS<!-- google_ad_section_end -->- Right now I don't have a single ounce of doubt that Rodgers is the best QB in the league. Nobody brings what he does. What he did in the playoffs, it was as if Joe Montana had Steve Young's athleticism. It was an early on John Elway, but clutch. He made throws that only Favre was capable in his prime, but without Favre's careless.
Regular season doesn't mean anything, as Joe Montana never even threw for 4000 yards, and his top was 31 TDs. But in postseason the guy was a maniac, with 12 games of over 100 QB rating!
Now, if we're talking career, he's still behind both Manning and Brady.
But, right now, Rodgers is the best. He isn't in the top tier in dissecting defenses yet, he's not with Manning, Brady and Brees. But Rodgers is right behind them, and with his mobility and cool, it tops them.
Rodgers can make every single throw with perfection, something that Brady can't do. He's more careful and a better leader than Manning (he doesn't blame others for poor play). He can run and throw on the run as well as on the pocket. He can run for a score.
It's no coincidence that Rodgers is #1 in regular season QB rating and #1 in postseason QB rating. The guy is a monster.
He still have some areas to work, his close passes, and beating a cover 2 team, though with a running game, it'll be easier, they won't be able to simply rush the QB on every down.
But there's nobody I feel more comfortable with running my team than Aaron Rodgers. If I can choose any player to lead my team for the 2011 season, it's Rodgers.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->SpartaChris<!-- google_ad_section_end -->- As for comparing the seasons last year, yes we lost Tauscher, Finley and Grant. Contrast that to the Colts losing Dallas Clark (Finley,) Anthony Gonzales (Driver), Joseph Addai (Grant), Mike Hart (Brandon Jackson), and Austin Collie (James Jones). That's in addition to the injury carousel on their offensive line, so much so that they at one point had to have their rookie tight end get ready to play Guard for the final Titans game. That's a ton of skill to be without for a large part or all of the season.
Yes, we too had injuries, and we noticed a lack of offensive production with just those three guys missing. Imagine having constant injuries on your offensive line and missing your #2 and 3 WR's, plus the backup QB. That's why Mannings numbers are a bit softer than Rodgers.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
Rodgers' 2009 season:
541 attempts. 65.7% completion. 4.434 yards. 30 Tds. 7 Ints. 8.2 YPA. 103.2 rating
Manning 2009 season:
571 attempts. 68.8% completion. 4.500 yards. 33 Tds. 17 Ints. 7.9 YPA. 99.9 rating.
BTW, Manning has 3 +100 rating seasons (one being an absurd 121.1) in 13 seasons as a starting QB. His regular season rating is 94.9
Rodgers, in 3, has 2 +100 rating seasons. His regular season rating is 98.4
Manning has 5 games of +100 rating in 19 postseason games. His postseason rating is 88.4
Rodgers has 4 games of +100 rating in 5 postseason games. His postseason rating is 112.6
Manning has done it longer, but Rodgers has done it better.
Rodgers is the first NFL QB we EXPECT to have a 100+ rating game, or else it's a disappointment. That's how good he is. We EXPECT him to do amazing plays both with his feet and arms, and not make mistakes.
Oh, and he led the league in positive plays according to PFF last year. He was also the best graded QB.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->GreenBayGal<!-- google_ad_section_end -->- I think Rodgers was incredible this season, especially during the post season. If you look strictly at statistics, Brady & Manning surely have better numbers that Rodgers. However, I'm not always a believer in stats. A lousy pass could be completed by an awesome reciever. A perfect pass could be dropped by a butter fingered reciever. As Sparta Chris states, Mannings numbers were down due to injuries in the Colt's offense. A really great quarter back can hold the team together with the 1st or 2nd string offense. In 2010, I think Rodgers showed the most tenacity and talent in dealing with any adversity given to him. My vote goes to Rodgers.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->GBPack2010<!-- google_ad_section_end -->- Both can make out of this world throws and both have shown up in big games as they've each won a Superbowl beating tough opponents along the way and being essential leaders throughout their careers. I'd choose the one with more mobility and that's Rodgers.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
So which would you rather have?
Payton Manning (94 votes)
Aaron Rodgers (411 votes)
505 total votes