Report: Colts Will Release Cornerback Kelvin Hayden [UPDATE] Chris Rucker Signed
by Brad Wells on Jul 30, 2011 6:19 PM EDT
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PrintJason LaCanfora of NFL Network is tweeting that the Colts will release seventh-year cornerback Kelvin Hayden.
I guess the sources for my buddy John Michael 'JMV' Vincent at 1070 The Fan were wrong on Hayden being 'safe.' (It's OK, JMV. I still love ya!)
Hayden was in the third year of a $43 million dollar contract. Since signing that deal, Hayden has appeared in only twenty regular season games. A neck injury landed him on the Injured Reserve list last season. He was to count roughly $9 million against Indy's cap in 2011.
Colts fans best remember Hayden as the player who sealed the Colts victory over the Bears in Super Bowl XLI, intercepting quarterback Rex Grossman in the fourth quarter and returning it for a touchdown. Hayden had 214 tackles, four forced fumbles, and three interceptions in his career with the Colts. He was drafted out of Illinois in the second round of the 2005 NFL Draft.
It is not clear at this time what savings the Colts will gain in terms of cap space with the release of Hayden. His release is coupled with rumors that 2011 sixth round pick Chris Rucker was signed. No confirmation yet on Rucker's contract. Rucker, like Hayden, is a corner.
[UPDATE] Mike Chappell at the Indianapolis Star confirms Rucker has been signed.
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Wasn't he the guy that dropped the game winning interception during the Jaguars game last year?
"Oh, everything looks bad if you remember it."
the guy who outplayed him last year
tyron if i had my guess
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, Tryon outplayed him
but is unproven.
Unrpoven
90% of the players on this roster are unproven.
Tryon is solid.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jul 30, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take
a superbowl sealing pick six over a dropped pick to lose a regular season game any day.
"It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm!" - Mike Tyson.
$9m per year for that?
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jul 30, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The Super Bowl interception more than makes up for the dropped Jaguar INT, but
that was still horrendous.
I remember
feeling great about the future of our secondary with starters named Hayden, Jackson, Sanders and Beathea. It’s wild how quickly things can change.
Hope they know what they're doing
Our CB core now consists of mainly unproven commodities
Also, Peyton getting paid less for teammates huh?
$23 mil over the 1st 3 years and now Hayden’s cut? I’m not buying it.
Not sure where you heard that
23M is the old number for the Franchise Tag. What I’m hearing is by signing the new contract he is dropping that to 16M for a 7M cap savings. I’m pretty sure Irsay tweeted something about how now the FA stuff can get done because money is there, but I could be wrong.
Sad to see Hayden go. It’ll be interesting to see what direction the colts go in for corner. There’s been no camp yet so it’s hard to assume one of the UFAs or Rs shined and made Hayden expendible…
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
He's not the only one
with that feeling: http://twitter.com/#!/RossTuckerNFL/status/97400421068455936
Turns out that's exactly what happened
23M the first 3 years and 10.5 the last two. They expect to redo the contract for manning after the 2013 TV deal gets done. The cap should get a lot larger at that time and therefore allow for him to have a bigger contract…
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
The 23 mil 1st three years comes from Jim Irsay's Twitter.
It’s a credit 2 Peyton;he put Coltfans,teammates, Ind. n winning ahead of all else.It’s 69 over 1rst 3(23 a yr.1rst 3)90 over 5,cap friendly
by ActionOxford on Jul 30, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
that doesn't mean 23M is the cap number
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Jul 30, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It can't be.
I think the cap number is 16 mil or so. I’m not cap expert so I don’t know why that is, but all BoilerHerrm said was 23 M over 1st 3 years. Didn’t say anything about the cap hit.
by ActionOxford on Jul 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s still a possibility that they re-sign him. They did with Marlin Jackson.
This has been a very interested off season to say the least.
i hope you
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
crap -- typus interruptus --
trying to say i hope you’re right. Kinda sad right now.
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
Any good cb's
Out there to grab? Without hayden we are relying almost entirely on young inexperienced cbs. I say grab a good coner like asante samuel. Then get a mid teir dt and a mid teir ol
Nate Clements, but he might cost too much
Samuel is still on the Eagles roster I think…
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
I would like a good cb too.
Not Samuel though. He is good at picking balls off….but when he isn’t doing that, he is giving up TDs.
Which I think, is why NE and now the Eagles let him go.
by moocow on Jul 30, 2011 5:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have to slight disgree with you there.
Yes, Samuel takes chances in coverage. But, as a whole his coverage is very good. The problem with him is…he is one of the worst tacklers in the league. So much so Any Reid once benched him during a game last season.
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mortreport:
First beneficiary of Manning deal: Colts source say they have signed FA Joseph Addai to return to team [via Twitter]
by oc981 on Jul 30, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Good, now lets get the best OL out in free agency.
DT would be nice too but if your two starting DE’s only play the the pass when they rush up field then I don’t care who you have at DT. Any one would be able to run on us. I’d rather do what teams do to us, run it down there throat and pay keep away. And then late in games they ll have to throw. Hello dwight and robert.
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jul 30, 2011 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he will land in philly
With every other FA out there.
See Ball, Get Ball. Quarterback Has Ball, Sack Him.
8-19-2010 Hell froze over, Painter has perect passer rating
by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Jul 30, 2011 5:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Signing fromer Raven CB Chris Carr could make sense.
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Which DT left do you think is worth signing?
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Harris hasn't played well in a while now.
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pat williams
the cat from san fran…hell, i would take rocky bernard.
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the Colts front office rarely pays linebackers....
but I believe Nick Barnett is still floating around waiting for a team to sign him.
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Also, Dolphins LB Channing Crowder was cut.
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While I am day-dreaming....
Aubrayo Franklin, the best Free Agent nose tackle is somehow still unsigned. Not the best fit for the 4-3, but stranger things have happened.
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Also, Pat Williams probably has something left in the tank
A one year deal might not break the bank.
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i dun think PW has anythign LEFT in his tank...not even for one more season
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
by dezznutz1001 on Jul 31, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Why did we resign addai?
It looks like instead of going after good olinemen and dlinemen ora corner but nope. Lets sign a crappy running back and not make any upgrades.
and if he actually had a decent offensive line
to block properly, who knows how well he would have done.
Wish
I wish all this was done a couple of days ago. I think we could have done something.
Maybe we go after Asante Samuel
Maybe, if we cut one zone corner, we bring in a better one with better off ball skills, Asante Samuel.
It might take calling a few players’ agents to get it done but it can be done. Take on Asante Samuel’s contract, restructure and backload it, and give up a 3rd round pick, like the Chargers gave up for Antonio Cromartie.
I know it is wishful thinking but why not?
If we cannot defend the run as well and cannot make moves for it...
…the least we can do is bolster our pass D to make our secondary better to go with our outstanding DEs.
We gave up a 2nd round pick...
…for getting Booger McFarland.
There are no trades out there for DTs
Draft picks are given up in trades. We got a good trade when we landed Justin Tryon for a 7th round pick. The only DTs that I know are available are in free agency right now.
Amobi Okoye
texans looking to trade him…..might could get him for a couple draft picks….
The question is...
…will the Texans play hardball with the Colts since they want to make it hard on a division rival to get him, especially the one they intend to chase for the division crown?
how could they make it hard?
they released him
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Gone to the Bears
Here is the link:
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/07/29/free-agency-2011-%E2%80%93-pff-reaction-blog-%E2%80%93-72911-part-2/
20.25 SIGNING! When Amobi Okoye was released earlier today, he had a lot of teams talking to him early. He has already made his choice, and that is to join the Bears. In Chicago they like rotating their defensive tackles in and out, so he will join Matt Toeania, Henry Milton, recently re-signed Anthony Adams and rookie Stephen Paea in the rotation. Okoye was the only one with a positive pass rush rating in the group, so it’s likely he will see a good portion of his snaps on 3rd downs.
Man, the Bears have one heck of a D-line
Wouldn't have minded him as a Colt.
Who knows what he was asking for though.
by strandedincarolina on Jul 30, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I am sure every player's contract is being worked out right now
All agents’ phones are ringing.
If, at the end of the day, we re-sign AJ, get Pat Williams and Asante Samuel, would we have done OK? I think so.
everyone would be ecstatic
but that isn’t going to happen
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we jumped the gun on Ijalana, I really think so
Not because of his talent but the fact we gave up an extra draft pick for it.
I think Chris Polian fell in love with Ijalana and was prepared to make a move for him, but I don’t think he expected Paea to still be available (he was projected to go early 2nd round). Might have already had the deal in place to move up. I wouldn’t think that if we didn’t take Nevis in the 3rd, but considering the fact that we did, it’s obvious DT was a focus of ours. We would have gotten our 1-tech help too in the rotation.
If we resign CJ, I’ll say that I’d rather have Paea and Nevis than Ijalana and Nevis with our draft picks 2 and 3. Just my opinion.
not really concerned with
draft picks at this point in peyton’s career
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He has 5 years left IMHO
He’s talked multiple times about wanting to play into his 40s. Stop acting as if this is the last year we’ll have him. You’re right draft picks never pay off year one: Gonzalez, Collie, and Addai did nothing in their rookies year.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
???
collie and addai had excellent rookie years. and manning has said that he has no intention of playing until 40 like brett favre.
we gave up a 5th rounder to move up…not exactly essential when peyton wil be in his late 30’s
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
but still
it was a 5th rounder…not the end of the world
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Peyton said he’s not ‘thinking’ about Favre’s consecutive starts streak right now which would force Peyton to play until he’s forty. Back in 2007 when the Colts discussed putting Peyton on a pitch count he said that he would like to have a very long career, possibly into his 40s.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
I think Ijalama (someone needs to get him a nickname) was the guy the Colts planned on drafting in the 1st round.
Then he fell, and the Colts worried a guy they thought was a 1st rounder…wouldn’t get to them in the 2nd….so they traded up a little (they didn’t give up much).
If he grows into a starting guard, or RT…I think it was worth it.
by moocow on Jul 30, 2011 6:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
neuro surgeon Hank Feuer
I know him form when I practiced in indy said Pey’s rehab is going well,, just reported on sportsline
we need some free agent good news like a DT or CB or safety
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Jul 30, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
alli want to see is them stopping that run and get off the field on 3rd down
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Jul 30, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
been wanting to see that for
10 year
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
because we all want to see a bad ass D that doesn't
get pushed around!!!!!
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Jul 30, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
it's difficult to do that with the current philosophy
and undersized players.
this is where
i usually go on my anti tony dungy rant and get stones thrown at me…but i shall bite my tongue.
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't even get me started on Dungy.
Just trust me when I say this……..I wouldn’t throw stones at you.
This is also the guy who cleared collie to get killed early twice let’s not get to hyped yet
by PeytonIsGOAT on Jul 30, 2011 9:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This doesn't make a lot of sense.
Why cut a decent option at CB if you are only saving 1.5 mil against the cap. My hope is the media has it wrong and the contract is being reworked. That or we don’t understand the rules and we actually save a bit more money.
by strandedincarolina on Jul 30, 2011 6:26 PM EDT reply actions
that would have
been enough to sign sproles…i think
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
decent but under achieving
ever since the SB for what he is making maybe they rework it or get someone else
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Jul 30, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
bring back Marlin jackson for cheap if his injury is healed
love that Pik I have of him on the Indy News teeshirt after they beat the Pats 2006 AFC Champ game
He's still with the Eagles
They would have to release him
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Asante Samuel
colts 20122nd pick ,2012 4th round pick,2013 2nd round pick for asante samuel
by NewYork ColtsFan 9212 on Jul 30, 2011 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
Panthers interested in him
Panthers have the cap room and their new DC, Sean McDermott, former Eagles DC, wants players he is familiar with. So, it is likely that Samuel is a Panther. Funny, Ron Meeks does not have a job now.
i'm stunned
i thought meeks would go on to a super star coordinator…
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Source
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/207955/report-panthers-interested-in-asante-samuel
Sean Considine is the former Jaguars safety that kept taking bad angles and let Donald Brown score in the second Colts-Jags game. Wonder why the Panthers wanted him.
Pardon me wha?
"If you are not sure, ask yourself, "What would Ted do?" Then do the opposite."
- Barney Stinson
I do occasionally go on Youtube...
at first i was worried
i looked on youtube at kevin thomas and after seeing that if he can play like that in the nfl which i hope he can he will be very good
by NewYork ColtsFan 9212 on Jul 30, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions
Have these Ravens fans seen Ryan Diem play?
They want Ryan Diem:
Isn't it funny
No fans likes their own players and would rather have what other people consider their trash
by Trav19purdue on Jul 30, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, like Cotls fans who are falling all over Pat Williams and Tommie Harris
W is so old now he prolly cant make it thru antoerh full season, his stats last year were rather dismal…TH, I’ll take him for a year or two, maybe
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
by dezznutz1001 on Jul 31, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Congrats BBS
I know you really wanted this Hayden cut to happen. I just hope he doesn’t go to the Jets who all of a sudden need a good corner. So if we freed up so much money by saving 8 million on Mannings cap count, cutting Hayden, cutting Diem, ect… who we getting? Or are we getting ready to re-up on Wayne and Mathis
i hope he sign with the jets
peyton will feast on that turd
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jul 30, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding.
Trav, you hope he doesn’t go to the Jets who need a good corner? If they really need a good corner I hope he does go there since he isn’t a good corner. He’s serviceable at best.
by ActionOxford on Jul 30, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He will go to the Bucs
Kelvin Hayden most likely will go to the Tampa Bay Bucs, will be a good fit there and Manning will pick on him on MNF at Tampa.
don't forget
I know he’s unproven, but 2010’s 3rd round pick Kevin Thomas is still on the roster. Had a knee injury in training camp last year, but maybe he turns out to be a revelation this year.
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