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2011 Colts Training Camp: Notes From The Tenth Day, Evening Padded Practice

It was an absolutely gorgeous night Wednesday in Anderson for Colts Training Camp, and I'm pretty sure the 9,000 people that attended last Wednesday night was smaller than the crowd that was out there last night. Thankfully when I walked in around 7:15, Peyton Manning was down signing autographs for the fans, so there were still plenty of seats up top for me to scope out the entire field.

Most of the Defensive Back drills were in front of me, so I got a good look at how those guys were doing. I also noticed the Defensive Line had a pretty light practice, as there were several times they were the only group just listening to DL Coach John Teerlinck. I'm guessing they went much harder on Tuesday, so they got a semi-break. There were a handful of players that weren't in pads, including Jamaal Anderson, DeMario Pressley, Ernie Sims, Cody Glenn, Jacob Lacey, Chris Brooks, and Manning.

There were three things that happened last night that I'd file under "Shit you can't make up":

  • They have a stage set up for live music to be played before the start of practice, even though the two times I went last week it just had Colts Cheerleaders up there signing autographs. This time, however, the crowd was "Partying like it's 1999", as a Prince cover band was playing, decked out in Colts gear. Maybe they felt Prince gave them good luck the night of Super Bowl XLI, but it seemed a bit odd that that was the band chosen.

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  • Special Teams were running punt drills, and I hear the lady behind me start talking about Pat McAfee's hair. I had overheard earlier on that she "loves Alabama", and never misses a NASCAR race at Talladega, so you have an idea as to who is behind me. I believe her husband/boyfriend was down getting food at the time, but in talking about McAfee's hair she says: "I could do some bad things with that hair." Yes, ma'am, I'm sure you could...
  • The offense was running a drill where they were backed up deep in their own territory. Curtis Painter ran two consecutive plays very well, checking down to Joseph Addai to get 10 yards, then hitting Pierre Garcon on an in-route. Then it was Dan Orlovsky's turn. You all remember this play, right? He couldn't possibly do the same thing again, even in practice, could he? Drake Nevis blew by Jacques McClendon, forcing Orlovsky straight back, and I'm 99% sure he stepped out of the back of the end zone. He did eventually throw a really nice deep corner to Garcon on that play, but the damage had been done. He really needs to work on that drill.

Some other observations:

  • All three Quarterbacks (Painter, Orlovsky, and Nate Davis) got a good bit of work in, as there were very few running drills. Even the "scrimmage" plays were almost exclusively passes. None of them were great all night, but Painter was by far the most impressive of the three. He hit some nice timing routes, and was only sacked one time, which was a jailbreak blitz by the defense. Orlovsky only had a couple really good throws on the night, and just seemed a bit off, his spatial awareness notwithstanding. Davis fumbled a snap during goal line drills (uh-oh), then got sacked by Chip Vaughn, who he didn't see coming at him. I know Davis is the "local favorite", but he's really struggling.
  • The only work the RBs got was in goal line, and Delone Carter worked with the first team, and scored on play #1 over the right side (yes, I believe it was behind Mike Pollak and Ryan Diem). He's going to be a hell of a goal line back. Also receiving carries were Indy locals Chad Spann and Darren Evans, and Evans did score from two yards out standing up. Spann got wide open right over the middle in the end zone, but Orlovsky was hit as soon as he threw the ball and short-hopped him.
  • The top 4 WRs have a significant drop-off after them, meaning that WR5 spot is still wide open for anyone who wants to grab it. Taj Smith looked uninterested on a couple of routes. Larrone Moore got a lot of work last night, as did David Gilreath. I think that spot will be won during preseason games, both receiving and on Special Teams.
  • The best move of the night went to Austin Collie, who got Antoine Bethea to bite hard on an out route, and Painter found him wide open in the end zone. He's clearly back to 100%, and will be a force to be reckoned with this season.
  • I also noticed Manning out there during goal-line offense only drills helping the WRs with their routes. It was good to see him taking a hands-on approach, and makes me feel a little better about another former QB, Frank Reich, as the WR coach.
  • Towards the end of practice in the 11-on-11 drills, the coaching staff wanted to see how the 2nd team Offensive line (Ben Ijalana, Kyle DeVan, Jake Kirkpatrick, Jacques McClendon, Antony Castonzo) would do against the top pass-rushing Defensive Line (Dwight Freeney, Eric Foster, Tommie Harris, Robert Mathis). Results were about as expected. The pocket collapsed quickly, and Orlovsky had constant pressure. The matchup I could see the best was Freeney on Castonzo, which went for about 3 plays. The first play Castonzo was clearly overmatched, but the last two he hung in with the Freeney bull-rush, slowing him down and keeping him in front of him. It was a good sign.
  • Jerry Hughes also got some good up-field pressure on both Jeff Linkenbach and Castonzo. He was also running with the first team kickoff coverage unit, so expect to see him out there as well.
  • Nothing interesting of note from the Linebackers.
  • I was impressed with the coverage skills of Kevin Thomas. He stuck with his guy most of the time, and the big frame does make a difference. Cornelius Brown dropped a ball in one of the drills, and immediately started doing pushups. Chip Vaughn had the sack of Davis, and was impressive covering some of the lower TEs. Justin Tryon had great deep ball coverage several times. If him and Jerraud Powers aren't the starters Week 1, I'll be shocked.
  • The worst play by the DBs came in the 7-on-7 drills, and without knowing what defense they were in, it's tough to lay blame on a single person. Anthony Gonzalez ran a deep corner route, and suddenly became wide open (like 10 yards wide open). The CB on the play was Chris Rucker, and it looked like he had outside-mid coverage, and he let Gonzo go behind him. The only problem was Joe Lefeged was the only deep safety, and he was on the other half of the field. It was an easy throw from Painter to Gonzo. I can't absolutely blame one of them for being out of position, but I'm sure their position coach does know who was in the wrong.
  • McAfee put a couple balls out of bounds inside the 10 yard line, which is great to see, especially since he's only punted one ball out of bounds in his career so far. He also had another one bounce at the 3, go straight up in the air and die at the 2. It was a beaut. Adam Vinatieri was also perfect on the night, including a slightly wind-aided 59 yarder, which got a nice roar from the crowd, and made an enthusiastic Dallas Clark jump up with outstretched arms.
  • It was a rough night for Blue, the mascot. His T-Shirt cannon had way too much juice in it, as he consistently overshot the bleachers. He got booed by the masses, who forgot that practice was still going on in hopes of getting an oversized shirt.

Only one more night practice left, and that is next Tuesday night, and I'll be out there again. Not sure what I'll focus on yet, but I'm up for any suggestions.

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AWSOME...Thanks!!

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by TRDean on Aug 11, 2011 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

For sure. Great to hear the updates.

Is there anything to this small rumor about Diem possibly at guard and Ijalana on the outside? I think it would be very smart. Diem has a lot of strength still even though he has slowed a little.

5 MVPs, 3 Superbowl Appearances, 2 Superbowl Rings

by BleedingBlueForever on Aug 11, 2011 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks mgrex!

Always good to get some first-hand accounts of what’s going on.

by GoHorse88 on Aug 11, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow, I know it's still the pre-season

But everything out of camp seems to be positive…The Colts showing some impressive special teams play?!? (McAfee’s punting and Vinatieri nailing a 59 yarder?) Successfully converting short yardage situations?!?

I’m anxious to see how they play on Saturday against the Rams, but realistically I just hope nobody gets hurt.

by kmbryant09 on Aug 11, 2011 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree with this.

Would love to see the Colts come out and play a sharp ballgame, but having everyone come out of relatively healthy is always the most important thing.

Also, enjoyed your breakdown of our RB situation. Good stuff. Keep up the good work.

by BoilerHerrm on Aug 11, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd glad to see

Cantstandya holding his own and getting better against Freeney. It never hurts to train against the best. Talk about drinking from the proverbial fire hose.

by Ayrshire on Aug 11, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Give Blue a little props...

Though he nearly fell through the fence and into the crowd on his way, Blue made my son’s night when he opened up the gate and took the boy out to the sideline for a quick bit during the scrimmage. That was pretty sweet, so thanks Blue!

by Slor on Aug 11, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

BLUE

Blue was awesome… after his terribly aimed tee-shirt shots he came over and took my 8 month old son for a photo op. After a few snaps he ran off with him and took him over to the sidelines for a couple minutes. Pretty funny stuff we had a great time. Thanks for the coverage!!

by asparks989 on Aug 11, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Great Night!1

I was up there last night and overall was impressed with what was going on.

Positives :

 Nevis – is an absolute monster. He just looks great even in the basic drills. He plays with a burst and I’m really looking forward to seeing him on the field in a game situation. I didn’t know much about him except what I have read here and some of the videos of highlights but I’m telling you this guy looks like the real deal to me.

Special Teams – I was impressed with the work the special teams group put in. They worked hard and worked at a good pace for most of the night.

Painter – As much as I hate to say it i Painter was the best of the quarterbacks. Nate Davis was a disappointment all night and made several bad throws and even looked lost at times on the field. I hated to see that cause this kid has a tremendous amount of talent but if he can’t get things together soon I’m not sure he will be around to get many opportunities.

Negatives:

I’m really worried about our Offensive Line. I just don’t see how its all going to come together yet. The rookies will progress with time I’m sure but I wasn’t impressed with anyone on the Offensive line and I thought as a group they all looked a little lost. I sure do miss HOWARD MUDD!!!

All in all it was a good practice and you have to take it for what it is. We will soon find out more about this entire team.

by Blue Report on Aug 11, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm sure that the reason the line looks a little off

has to do with the fact that Manning isn’t out there calling the shots.

The Indianapolis Colts are going to be the 1st team to win a super bowl in their own stadium. 'nuff said.

by It'sAlways18 on Aug 11, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

5th WR...

No mention of Blair White in there. Did I miss something?

I think Gilreath could be a ST weapon on coverage and returns. I would love to hear about how he looks both in the offense and on ST drills.

Bleedin' Blue for as long as I can remember. Can you believe we get to be fans while our team has the greatest QB of all time?!?!?!

by emiller17 on Aug 11, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone asks this every Training Camp post

but that’s okay… He’s on the PUP list

"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy

by Mark Olson on Aug 11, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found it right after I posted...

It was more about Gilreath anyway.

Bleedin' Blue for as long as I can remember. Can you believe we get to be fans while our team has the greatest QB of all time?!?!?!

by emiller17 on Aug 11, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

he hasn't been getting much coverage, but

from what little I’ve read, he has shown very good hands (much better than larron moore).
He isn’t as superb a route-runner as a prototypical colts receiver, but that’s mostly due to the fact that he was never the #1 receiver and didn’t really play a lot or catch a lot of passes over his college career.

I’ve liked what limited film i’ve seen of him though, he’s actually who I hope the colts will keep as a 5th receiver/specialist. I think he could be good, and should at least make the practice squad. The only thing he really needs to do is show that he can be as good as Taj Smith on special teams

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Aug 11, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone else catch this? Pun intended

The Colts signed WR Marshall Williams who was released by Denver. If he catches a pass from Peyton it will be Marshall Williams from Manning – and Peyton’s son is ????

"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"

by indylator on Aug 11, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

cool beans, man

The Indianapolis Colts are going to be the 1st team to win a super bowl in their own stadium. 'nuff said.

by It'sAlways18 on Aug 12, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nate Davis dissapointment

The only reason I’m watching this blog is Nate….after reading multiple Colts blogs it sounds like something isn’t right. Don’t know if the death in his family has him unfocused or if medication might help his problem.

All I can say is wait for the pre-season games, this is where he’ll sink or swim. He seems to get unmotivated easily in practice (insert Allen Iverson voice here) but when it comes to just playing the game, he turns into a stud QB. Hopefully they’ll give him some reps, otherwise this doesn’t bode well.

He was a totally different presence as a 49er so, odd to hear this. We could use him still, with the jokes on our roster.

by TheScout on Aug 11, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

no

nate davis was never a stud qb

by omahacolt on Aug 11, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate Davis

is not going to make the roster. There’s no reason to believe that it’s a family or medical issue.

He just isn’t that good. Sorry to break it to you.. Hometown favorite or not, he’s been the 3rd best QB in training camp, and that’s not even including Manning. The 49ers gave up on him for a reason. If he’s not good enough to make their QB situation any better, there’s no chance he’ll do it for the Colts.

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Aug 11, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate

I’m a 49er fan so I know a lil’ somethin’ somethin’ on him, without being a hometown fave since it didn’t apply to me.

Not easy to impress a 9er fan at QB, since we had 2 or 3 Mannings in a row before it got desolate out here. I saw Nate play live, so I know he has it in him. Stuff he did was natural and with great pressure on him. They didn’t give up on him, he got banished by an idiot (Mike Sing) who knows nothing about offense or good QB’s since his idea of offense was to attempt to mimic his 85 Bears team (run/run/run).

With that said, it doesn’t sound like the Nate I saw out here. He’s got a golden opportunity with you guys and it sounds like it’s slipping through his fingers.

by TheScout on Aug 11, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Nate looked pretty weak on Wednesday. His throws weren’t crisp and he doesn’t look like anything to hang onto. I could be wrong, but I definitely wasn’t impressed. Painter made him look like a dog, and Painter is… well, Painter.

My blood-type is Colts and FORD blue.

by Stew Blake on Aug 12, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, he is no longer playing at Ball State and his game is not equating to the NFL.

I actually thought at Ball State he may make it at the next level.

"I'm a stylin'-profilin', limo-ridin', jet-flyin', kiss-stealin,' wheelin'-dealin', son of a gun!" WOOO!
Ric "The Nature Boy" Flair

by PV Mike on Aug 11, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

After #18, it's all about the lines.

I’m interested in the line play. First, which players are lining up at NT, and how do they look? Second, If BI can develop, I would like to see Diem kicked back to RG, where he started his career in Indy. Diem’s a bright guy and knows his stuff, but I’m not sure he still has the athleticism to handle good pash rushers, even at RT.

by Voice of the Profit on Aug 11, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

the guys on Sirius NFL radio tdoay

that were broadcasting from Colts training camp disagree with you, they both think that Orlovsky looks much better than Painter!!!!

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Aug 11, 2011 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

MARSHAL MANNING LIKE YOU SAID LOL

by Violeta C on Aug 11, 2011 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome practice.

I was there on Wednesday and had a nice front row seat at the 50. The route that Collie burnt Bethea on was just plain nasty. I was very happy to see him back in action (I was equipped with my #17 jersey too). Delone was looking really sharp and looks like a carbon copy of Michael Turner. I’m very excited about him. All in all, it was a great practice. Nate Davis looked a little shaky, but I guess that’s expected. My girlfriend, my friend, and I had a great time and I was able to get a perfect Peyton autograph (thanks to my girlfriend) to boot. What an awesome night! I’m pumped for the season.

Go Colts!

My blood-type is Colts and FORD blue.

by Stew Blake on Aug 12, 2011 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

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