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2011 NFL Preseason Recap: Rams 33 - Colts 10

Last night, the Rams pretty thoroughly kicked the snot out of the Colts. Part of the reason this happened is the Colts simply don't care about preseason whereas the Rams, who didn't have many people at the dome last night, are trying to re-engage their fanbase by proving to them that the 2011 Rams team is good. Thus, Rams quarterback Sam Bradford and the No. 1 offense played well into quarter two while the Colts had their third stringers out there midway through the first quarter.

The other reason this game was a blowout was the horrendous play of the quarterbacks, in particular Curtis Painter and Dan Orlovsky. I paid extra special attention to both men during the game, and now having rewatched it twice (yes, I hate myself THAT much) it's pretty obvious that Painter has not progressed much from last year.

I also followed Drake Nevis and Kevin Thomas. Both had strong games.

Two other players jumped out at me, and not for good reasons. Jerry Hughes and Mike Pollak very much needed to play well in a game like this in order to shut up their more vocal critics (like me, for instance). In fact, I came into this game specifically choosing not to focus on them. However, their play last night was so atrocious that it was hard NOT to notice them, Hughes especially. I tweeted last night that all the folks crowing about Hughes looking good in camp needed to temper that excitement. We need to see Hughes look good in a game. Any game. Last night, he was given a golden chance to showcase his growth, and he flopped big time.

And in case you still care about this, Hughes went toe-to-toe with Rodger Saffold last night. Saffold was the player the Colts passed over to take Hughes. Bill Polian himself said the Colts scouting department graded Saffold as a right tackle. Well, Saffold has played LT for much of his early career, and played it well. Last night, Saffold dominated Hughes. He never let him within reach of his QB.

Gonna say the Polians and their scouting department really screwed up on that evaluation.

After the jump, we breakdown the game.

Star-divide

  • Curtis Painter on the first series was dreadful. He missed badly on a routine swing pass in the left flat for Joseph Addai on the first play. On third down, he BADLY overthrew Austin Collie, who had a step on his defender, and the ball landed in the hands of Quintin Mikell.Just a terrible throw. No way to disguise that.
  • Donald Brown looked good last night. A couple of very solid runs. He hit the holes without hesitation, and utilized his speed to get into the secondary.
  • Mike Pollak started at guard, but was moved to center after the first series. Pollak was equally dreadful there as he is at guard. On a Donald Brown run during the second offensive series, NT Fred Robbins pushed Pollak three yards back into the backfield. Brown, who was running right, had to cutback left and gained 5 yards out of the play. However, the play was clearly going right, and because Pollak was utterly dominated, Brown had to make something out of nothing.
  • In the third offensive series, the first play was a run right and, once again, Pollak got overpowered. He's two yards back with Robbins while the Colts RB (can't tell who) is just getting back to the LOS.
  • Orlovsky came in after just two series by Painter. On the night, the former Texans and Lions QB threw two INTs. However, the first Orlovsky INT was all on WR Chris Brooks. Brooks was the slot receiver on a hot read. Orlovsky put a fast ball right into his hands. In the big leagues, you must make that catch. Brooks didn't. It bounced off his hands and into a Rams defender's. Chris Brooks will get cut for that. NFL WRs must make that grab. No excuses.
  • As previously stated, Jerry Hughes started at LE last night in place of Dwight Freeney. Freeney isn't hurt. The Colts just know that without Freeney, they have no pass rush. Thus, keeping him out of 'meaningless' games is a priority. Hughes was dominated all night. On 3rd and 5 inside 20 after Orlovsky's first pick, Hughes tried to do a spin move on Saffold. Hughes never touched Sam Bradford's jersey all night. If didn't matter if Saffold was on him, or Joe Blow Backup.
  • Compare Hughes to Rams first rounder from 2011, DE Robert Quinn. On third-and-12 for Colts during Orlovsky's second series, Quinn bull-rushed his way to Orlovsky, forcing him to throw early. Quinn showed power and speed in that one rush, and almost got a sack. In fact, he was double-teamed on the play, by both Linkenbach and Jacques McClendon, and STILL managed to pressure Orlovsky. He bull-rushed right through both of them.
  • Javarris James got a great stick on the punt return in the first quarter. He blow up the returner just has he fielded the punt. Nice job. Joe Lefeged was also there to clean up the play.
  • Drake Nevis impressed me last night. On the Rams fourth series, he looked very good. On the first play, he broke through two blockers and pressured Bradford into an incompletion. In fact, he actually got to Bradford and dragged him down, all while the tackle was holding him (no flag). Very impressive pass rush there from the UT position.
  • The Rams fourth series pitted their first team offense v. Indy's second and third string defense. Rams converted several third downs to, eventually, score a TD. 3rd-and-5, converted. 3rd-and-7, converted. Bradford picked on Brandon King, No. 37, a lot on third down. They ran the same exact play both times to Lance Hendricks the TE. Converted 4th-and-1 later in drive as well.
  • Nevis was very good getting down the line and cleaning up running plays last night. On 1st-and-10, with :20 left in first quarter, the ran right at Jerry Hughes and gained 4 yards. Hughes was blocked out of play by Saffold. Nevis came down the line and cleaned up RB.
  • At the beginning of second quarter, Colts had to use a TO because they had the wrong defense on the field. That's pretty inexcusable. After the break, how can the coaches get the wrong personal on the field? They had Philip Wheeler lined up against a slot receiver. It would have been a TD, easy. Colts burn TO and get nickel package on field. Bad coaching there.
  • At the beginning of the second quarter, the Colts had guys like Daniel Bedford and Courtney Brown in the game. The Rams had their starting offense still on the field. The Colts simply don't care.
  • Orlovsky, in second quarter, looked good. Stood tall in pocket. Completed nice out throw to TE Mike McNiel for a seven yard gain. On the third down (3rd-and-1) Orlovsky was flushed right because rookie Anthony Castonzo could not sustain his block. Don't ask me why the Colts are throwing on 3rd-and-1 when they've spent all this money and draft picks on getting Castonzo, Ben Ijalana, and Delone Carter (who was the back at that time).
  • On Colts second quarter series with 4:04 left, Castonzo missed an assignment and let Robert Quinn have a free shot at Evans. Stopped Evans short of LOS for negative gain. On third and 8, Orlovsky looked left, went back right and threw it to the sidelines. Taj Smith ran a bad route, and missed the catch. Orlovsky visibly annoyed with Smith after that.
  • Impressive running last night by Chad Spann. His kick returns were terrible (fumbled two of them, but didn't lose either one), but a couple of times as a RB he made something out of nothing, especially in third quarter. The 41-yard TD from Orlovsky to Taj Smith was a result of a play action fake. The Rams LBers bit on the fake because Spann was killing them. Result, easy TD. Good throw by Orlovsky.
  • Sometime late in the second quarter or early in the third, Mike Pollak sat and Kyle DeVan lined up at center. He looked very good playing the part. He held his blocks well in pass protection. On the 41-yarder, he cleaned up two blocks and Orlovsky wasn't touched.
  • The third quarter Orlovsky pick was simply a bad throw. Just a poor decision and the ball wasn't well placed. It wasn't nearly as bad as the Painter pick, but up until then Orlovsky had outplayed Painter.

Overall, the QBs were awful, Nevis was strong, and I liked the coverage of Kevin Thomas in the second half. Thomas did some nice things out there. A couple of times, he gave too much cushion for a a guy who is supposed to be a man coverage specialist, but overall not bad.

And despite some expected rookie mistakes, I liked what I saw out of Castonzo. He's clearly more talented and offers more at the LT spot than Jeff Linkenbach. I didn't focus on Ijalana much.

After the game, a noticeably subdued Jim Caldwell was not his usual 'Hey guys, it's not all that bad' self.

Direct quotes from Caldwell, via Tom James:

"A lot of miscues. We're not quite where we'd like to be right now. We've got a lot of work to do," JCaldwell said.

"We weren't as sharp as we'd like to be. And that's what we have to improve upon," JCaldwell said.

For those looking for positives, I offer these:

  • The Colts have more talent on their offensive line.
  • Drake Nevis looks like a very potent UT.
  • Special teams coverage of punts was very good.

The negatives:

  • Jerry Hughes is still a major bust.
  • Mike Pollak is a waste on the roster. There is simply no logical reason to play him at all, let alone start him.
  • The Colts back-up QB position is a mess.

Other notes:

  • Drake Nevis never lined up at NT. In fact, after watching him last night, he isn't one. So, Bill Polian saying he will play NT this year is either Polian blowing smoke, or Bill Polian being demented.
  • Philip Wheeler was all over the field. Very solid outing for him. At some point, they need to line him up as a DE.
  • I watched a bit of Ollie Ogbu and the Colts did indeed line him up at NT. He does look bigger than 285.
  • Tommie Harris didn't do much last night. The fact that people have been asking me, 'Did he play?' should give you a clue as to how ineffective he was.
  • The safety Lefeged and the linebacker Adrian Moten had strong outings last night. Lefeged will make the roster simply because he looks like a good special teamer.

Your thoughts? Ideas? Comments?

Special thanks to Turf Show Times.

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I saw harris

I watched the game twice too (sigh) He didn’t play a whole heck of a lot but there were two plays where he got a pretty good push. I watched Ben, he looked about like AC did. Spann impressed me but late in the game so did Evans. The fourth Rb spot will be between the two. If Spann could return kicks he’d have a leg up on Evans but after last night I think they ate dead even.

by gmitch23 on Aug 14, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Also I noticed

I don’t think Mookie looked good. He seemed to just stand his guy up and not even move him back. He just didn’t seem very effective. Is Mookie better than Muir just because he didn’t get blown off the like line Muir did? Speaking of Muir, did he even line for the Rams last night???

by gmitch23 on Aug 14, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harris

I didn’t notice Harris doing alot unfortunately, but it seemed Ogbu and Pressley were making alot of plays in the second half.

by lakecountycolt on Aug 14, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not ready to proclaim Hughes as a bust.

Rewatching the entire game now, and both now and last night I saw him collapse the pocket on a couple of running plays.

Antoine Bethea - the most underrated safety in the NFL.

by Ben Savage on Aug 14, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Similar thoughts

I re-watched it as well. Just focusing on OL and DL.

On OL:
It’s so obvious that Costanzo and Ilijana have a ton more talent than Link or Diem (at this point) and simply need experience. It was also nice to see McClendon play well. I think before the end of the year from L to R we get: Constanzo, McClendon, Saturday, Diem, and Illijana. That line would be pretty sound. We’re just going to have to endure some growing pains before. The young guys also did a pretty good job run blocking last night. McClendon and Illajana especially. The stretch play even started to work a bit.

On DL:
The rumors about Nevis are true. That kid is going to be a STUD. If the Colts can get ANY type of run stuffing from the other DT position, this could be a vastly improved DL. If you watch, starting in the 2Q there are quite a few times that Nevis is getting doubled and still makes the play in the end or someone else gets a one on one opportunity. If that continues, Freeney/Mathis may have ridiculous years.

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by Music Man on Aug 14, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree

Nevis will be a good UT. He still needs to focus on staying disciplined on running plays so the gaps aren’t exposed, but as a pass rusher he is already ahead of the game compared to what the Colts fielded last season.

My biggest concern is the backup DT (NT) position. Mookie was fine to me while he was out there, just needs more time with Nevis or whoever he is lined up with to get on the same page. But when Mookie went out of the game, there was no one that could hold his own against the Rams O Line. I know we are talking about 1st string O line vs 2nd or 3rd string DTs, but we are going to be counting on these guys to play significant minutes during the regular season so they need to be effective. Whoever is #91 was getting pushed all over the place all night.

The NT position needs to be addressed before the Houston game or else this is going to be more of the same…Colts getting the ball run all over them.

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by AceOfSpades on Aug 14, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Preseason is a scrimmage

Preseason is a scrimmage disguised as a game. You watched practice for a group of players that will be selling insurance soon. The object is not to win, The object is to assess players. It makes sense to me that the Colts already know who they think the 1st and 2nd string is. The stategery is to find the 3rd stringers in this first game, to find those that they will feature in the second half of the rest of the preseason games. Sorry fanatics I approve of this strategy,

Expect to see much more Painter Friday night. Probably a series or two into the 2nd Q.

@IndyVerm

by VermVerm on Aug 14, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

'The Colts back-up QB position is a mess.'

Has it ever been anything else? Let’s face it, Polian puts no importance whatsoever in the backup QB position. His gameplan is to have Peyton on the field at all times on offense. However, what if Peyton got slightly hurt and had to sit out three games? It’s very important to have a ‘decent’ back-up quarterback, in my opinion. At least it would give us a chance in those games. As it is now, we have no chance if that were to happen. It could be the difference between making the post-season and not making it.

by Ayrshire on Aug 14, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Stubborn Bill says NO !

A J has been lots of places but showed last night how much better he was than ours. Why in the world he won’t bring one in ( not the Houston guy, he was wasn’t ever any good), I’ll never understand. Bill keeps thinking these guys Painter, Polick, Ugoh and many others will get better. They don’t and he still keeps them rather than brining in new guys He takes too long to decide whether or not they can play.

by MrBoJangles46 on Aug 14, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Questions for BBS and others who watched the game

Did Collie look like he has fully recovered? Did he take a hit or two? Did he seem OK after those hits?

Did Gonzo look any good? Any reason to believe he’s going to sty healthy?

by FrenchColtsLover on Aug 14, 2011 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

It's

really hard to evaluate the receivers when the balls just don’t get there. Although both Gonzo and Collie looked healthy, to my knowledge they were both only targeted once a piece and were overthrown both times.

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by Jfoley17 on Aug 14, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't believe either of them did anything

They were both overthrown. Neither got hit. Collie had his man beat on an overthrown painter pass. IIRC Gonzalez made a decent cut back at the sidelines before Orlovsky overthrew him.

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Aug 15, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

How the coaches evaluate QB's

I suspect they will also look at what the QB’s did correctly in addtion to the awful stuff. I noticed in this post it is pointedly focused on the negatives. Let;s do that with Peyton and release him the next time he throws an INT.

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by indylator on Aug 14, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Manning has a proven track record.

Painter hasn’t shown anything but suckage over his limited playing time. If he had over 50,000 yards, nearly 400 TDs, had been to the playoffs 11 times, had won a Super Bowl, and had 4 MVPs over his career than we might be willing to cut him a little slack.

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by P0RKINS2 on Aug 14, 2011 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And Manning just tore up the place in his first few games?

I think not – and that was with a full first team including Marshall Faulk. How easily we forget what 1998 was like. It would be interesting to ask Peyton about this topic over a beer, tea, or whatever he drinks.

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by indylator on Aug 14, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference

Was that Manning’s first team was more devoid of talent than this current team is. Were you to put Manning from 98 onto this team, he’s gonna throw for 4,000 yards…

People talk about 98 like Manning had a lot of talented weapons. The truth is, he didn’t. Faulk led the team in yards from scrimmage, rushing, and receiving. Harrison was in year 2 of his career. Dilger and Pollard were stout, but not quite All Pro material. To be honest, about the only thing you can say was that he had a semi decent O-Line considering the state of the team at that point.

by DevilsReject on Aug 14, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The QBs did little correctly.

Nobody could say that the other guy was worse because they were all bad. Neither Orlovsky nor Painter could do anything without a monster pocket. Both picks (Orlovsky’s first wasn’t his fault, other than maybe being a little to hard) were really bad overthrows. Painter had one good throw, which was a poor decision considering he threw into tight coverage with another receiver who was very open.

Worse than him being bad, is that I saw no progression. I don’t see where he has improved in any aspect of his game.

by strandedincarolina on Aug 14, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spann

Spann provided some real pop out of the backfield. I don’t know where he fits but it would be good to see more of him in pre-season.

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by indylator on Aug 14, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Backs

I’d love to see Spann return kicks Moore return punts and Evans stick as the 4th running back. Loved watching a Colt RB run over a safety.

by lakecountycolt on Aug 14, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

surely you don't mean that, or you didn't watch the game.

Nobody wants to see Spann try to handle another kickoff. Both muffs were really foolish looking.

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by zherebyonki on Aug 14, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see the muffs but i saw a player who could make some things happen. I say give him a chance to be a rookie and improve b4 writing him off.

by lakecountycolt on Aug 14, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd be more patient if I hadn't seen equally positive things without the negatives

from Darren Evans. And we know what Javarris James and Devin Moore can do. I won’t write Spann off, but i’m demoting him on my mental depth chart for the time being.

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by zherebyonki on Aug 14, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evans looks like a BeAst!

by lakecountycolt on Aug 14, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spann looked like a nervous rookie on kickoffs

and like a bolt of lighting out of the backfield. More please

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by indylator on Aug 14, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn’t see the muffs. I like him though. Hope he can improve with kickoffs. Didn’t he have at least one he caught cleanly and returned for good yardage?

by lakecountycolt on Aug 14, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

he returned one to the 22 yard line, other than that, no

by icedude on Aug 14, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about the D. Evans blitz pickup that seperated the defender from his helmet final play of the game. COLTS need to decide on a guard rotation, thats the biggest unanswered question.

by lakecountycolt on Aug 14, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah that was decent

Evans seemed to be capable dropping back to help block in the few plays i saw in which he was required to do so.

Spann looks to be the better rusher though, muffed kickoffs aside.

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Aug 15, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the write up and ....

I only watched the game once, but clearly noticed 3 positives and 3 negatives.

Positives:
1. As stated by BBS and others, Drake Nevis is a beast. I believe he could very well be in the starting lineup by mid-season, if not sooner. Great 3rd round pick by the Colts
2. The running game looked good. Our RBs had a lot of spring and the O-Line had some nice moments, although they have A LOT of work to do before the opener in Houston. Please also keep in mind, there is a big difference when Manning is under center as opposed to the clowns we saw yesterday.
3. I was really, really impressed with ST on punt coverage. Great coverage and excellent tackling. I did let out a yell, when Jerry Hughes over pursued on a punt (remember the Jets playoff game last year), however the Rams PR ran the wrong way and was crushed by the Colts back group.

Negatives:
1. Jerry Hughes. Oh, Jerry “effing” Hughes. Talk about piling it on. I really wanted Hughes to come out and kick some butt last night. Hughes was dominated on the line and played like an amateur on ST. At this point, I am simply asking myself what we can get if we try to trade him. The Colts need to make a move before the regular season begins. Anyone not seeing Hughes as a total bust is either stupid, delusional or a member of his family.
2. Mike Pollak. He will NOT start over Kyle DeVan. I observed a lot of what was mentioned in this post. This guy should be cut so the Colts can find another OG for the season.
3. I am not going to waste my 3rd observation on the QBs, because we all know these guys are terrible. Instead, let’s talk about the receiving corp performance. Wow. I don’t think there is a bigger drop off in the NFL than the Colts WR’s from #5 to #6. That said, I really hope the Colts get TJ Whosyourmama (nickname courtesy of Ochocinco) signed and in camp by Monday. I never, ever, ever want to see Chris Brooks, Taj Smith or Marshall Williams again.

by davis3217 on Aug 14, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed about receivers

But Taj is good for special teams!!! Hopefully B. White will be back soon, he learned a lot his rookie year, git a lot of PT and he should be better, but Housh would be great to get.

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Aug 14, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought both Reitz and McClendon played better than Pollock and DeVan. Reitz actually looked better than McClendon at this point.

As far as special teams go, other than coverage units it really doesn’t matter much. I want someone who can catch it and not turn it over. With the rules and the ST blocking units, which absolutely suck, it’s pointless to do anything but kneel down every chance we get. On punt returns, call for the fair catch. I can see taking it out of the end zone in preseason to show what you can do, but getting your head knocked off and coming an inch away from turning it over proves nothing but what a dumb ass you are.

As far as depth in WRs, how can you develop or evaluate someone when you have these QBs throwing to them? Granted, they don’t look good either way, but we are going to have to go on experience in the WR department. Here’s hoping TJ signs tomorrow.

by strandedincarolina on Aug 14, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

forgot about Reitz

He did play well. If he continues like that it will be tough for the Colts to cut him. If they do cut him, he’ll be the first guy signed to the practice squad. I definitely would keep him before Pollock

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by Music Man on Aug 14, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reitz has no more PS eligibility

Unless the new CBA has different rules.

by Ty46 on Aug 15, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reitz looked quite capable

Not great, but certainly no worse than pollak. If I remember correctly the colts signed him as depth for one of the tackle positions last season but he didn’t make the squad. He seems to be handling the move inside to guard a lot better.

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Aug 15, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

davis3217--"At this point, I am simply asking myself what we can get if we try to trade Hughes."

Answer: If a team offers a bag of used footballs & a leaky gatorade cooler for Jerry Hughes, TAKE IT!!!

The guy is softer than a kitty-cat’s fur.

All he does is belly-bump on run plays & allow the tackle to take him upfield on pass plays.

The guy is literally the worst DE in the NFL. If it didn’t say “1st round draft choice” next to his name, he never would have made the Colts (or any squad) in 2010 & he would be working at Casey Irsay’s fro-yo shop right now.

by slice60 on Aug 14, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

it doesnt surprise me how poorly we played. after the layoff, we are going to see some sloppy football from everyone

But yeah, QB play was atrocious. Painter gets happy feet and gun shy when there is even a HINT of a strong pass rush

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by danorocks17 on Aug 14, 2011 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Painter has gotten worse

no improvement at all, they need to cut him.

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Aug 14, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i certainly dont see anything in him that warrents a roster spot

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by danorocks17 on Aug 14, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caldwell preseason buzz words

“Not quite where we’d like to be….” and “sharp” are his preseason buzz words.

Pay attention to how much he says that as the preseason goes on and make a drinking game out of it. You will need several trips to the liquor store.

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by AceOfSpades on Aug 14, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the recap

Wasn’t able to watch the game, have seen the highlights,, they should get rid of Painter, and let Orlovsky take all the reps and let him play the last 3 games and if he stinks , there has to be a veteran who they can sign for a decent number.DeVan has always played better than Pollack and please give Castanzo all the work, Link will get killed by Houston D line like he did last year, and do not want to see Peyton beat up his first game.

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Aug 14, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

You are going to have to give this line help regardless of who our LT is.

Addai was signed because he can block and negate a lot of mistakes, particularly the LTs. We also have Eldridge if his knee ever heals. We are going to need both this year.

I do agree that I’d play Castanzo and Ijalana as much as I could. Both are behind the curve because of no offseason, so just throw them in their in preseason and let them go. The worst thing that could happen is we lose a QB for the season because they give up a sack. As long as Peyton isn’t back there, who cares.

by strandedincarolina on Aug 14, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Observation

Only watched the game once (live) so I am not going to go play by play, but a big concern will continue to be the ST return game. I am guessing that McAfee will try to kick at least 75% of balls out of the end zone so the coverage unit should be okay, but the return game is an opportunity for this team to prevent injuries and bonehead moves that will cost us in the long run (i.e. holding penalties that drop us from the 20 to the 10). All I want for Christmas out of the return game is fair catches and giving 18 the ball at the 20 without any injured players from freak ST accidents.

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by AceOfSpades on Aug 14, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Hughes?

Why are you so adamant about trashing Hughes? Did you lose a bet on draft day? I guess you know that Hughes would not be the our first first round failure? right? And come on dude get off the NT and UT defensive line position. When have you ever seen a “Tampa 2” defense with a 330 lb DT. Lets see Al Noga (6-1 265) Henry Thomas 6-2 277) John Randle (6-1 280) Chris Doleman (6-5 289). That was Dungys D-line his first year as D-cordinator with the Vikes. They were 7th in pts allowed that year. The largest defensive tackle that ever played on Dungys D-line was Warren Sapp. Sapp was even Bigger than Mcfarland. Actually Dungy had bigger D-lineman when he was with indy. In a cover 2 your defensive backs are facing the QB when they are in coverage. The job of the dline is to get up the field through one gap and either sack the QB or force him into making a a bad throwing decision. A Nose Tackle in a "Tampa 2 " defense is not the same as a “regular Nose Tackle” Come on do some research! Brad Culpepper (6-1 275) Nose tackle (Henry Thomas 277 Nose Tackle) Mcfarland (6-0 300) Yep NT Baby

by jaystew_ on Aug 14, 2011 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with you on 5 of your 6 void/bad points.

Hughes doesn’t look good, I’ll be the first to admit that but you can’t give on on a guy after 1 season and a preseason game! Polamalu looked completely lost in his rookie season and he turned out to be ok. A lot of players do bad in their rookie seasons, he didn’t even get much playing time to develop.

by kferguson2002 on Aug 14, 2011 3:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Isn't Dwight Freeney a RE?

I could’ve sworn he was.

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't."
- Jack Dempsey

by infinityzero.systemerror on Aug 14, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

Freeney plays the right side of the line while mathis plays the left. BBS just got it mixed up.

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Aug 15, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

A tale of two cities

Colt fan from Boston.Two observations. One,the colts look very small,tiny even.Compare them to Pats,Tampa bay,Steelers.I understand Colt mgt likes smaller more athletic teams but this is ridiculous.Size does matter at some point in the NFL.Two,the most under anallyzed part of our loss to Jets last year was the almost TEN minute drive in the 3rd QT,we gave up another 7 plus minute drive to the Rams.I don’t understand it.That can’t be tolerated this year I question the talent on this Defense,I’m also questioning the Coaching.Bottom line not impressed after thr first game

by zeus3 on Aug 15, 2011 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

My observations

1. Marshall Williams and Chris Brooks are goners – they aren’t even practice squad material. Taj Smith is not an NFL WR, but he contributes on ST…not sure he’ll find a place on the roster this season though with the depth at receiver.

2. The O-line is far far far far from set. Reitz outplayed Pollak, so did DeVan. Castonzo had good spots and a lot of not so good ones. He’s definitely got potential but he isn’t ready to start right now. Another month and he may be ready; let’s hope he is.

3. Kevin Thomas looked good. He made at least 3-4 good open field tackles that I saw. That being said, he gave pretty big cushions, and I expect that’s more to do with still getting comfortable enough in the defense and trusting in his safeties.

4. Undrafted rookies – Three stood out to me for good reasons:
  - Joe Lefeged – this kid has good coverage skills. He’ll be on the roster as the primary backup and a solid contributor on special teams.
  - Adrian Moten – another guy who showed quite a bit for an undrafted rookie LB. He looks like he could make the roster and also be good on special teams
  - Chad Spann – Yes, he completely blew it returning kicks. That probably is more to do with pre-season rookie jitters than an indictment on his skills. He was good out of the backfield showing good cutback abilities. He may very well be the 4th RB on the roster

5. Mike McNeill actually looked decent. I think if we carry 4 TEs, he will be the 4th (behind clark, tamme, eldridge).

6. Drake Nevis – It’s been stated enough in the comments above mine, but this kid is for real. I’d look for him to make an immediate impact on this team. At this point he looks better at the UT position than Moala does. I’d sooner see a starting DT pairing of Nevis+Mookie with Moala/Harris + Ogbu/Pressley as depth at this point.

7. Jerry Hughes – sigh

8. Pierre Garcon – that. catch. was. in. sane. That’s all I have to say about that. If he can keep his hands like that all season long, Gonzo is not going to be seeing the field except in 4WR sets (which is basically never).

9. QBs – QB play in this game was atrocious. There was nothing redeeming about anything that I saw. The first Orlovsky pick was not his fault, but his second one was so unforgivable that it doesn’t matter. He missed by a mile. If Peyton goes down this team is finished. Period.

10. Rodger Saffold – I wanted Hughes last year leading up to the draft, but damn Saffold looks every bit the LT that we desperately need.

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Aug 15, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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