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We don't know anything about Curtis Painter

 

Through his first 37 passes, he threw 3 interceptions and had a 58.6 QB rating. Does anyone think that performance was a good predictor of Peyton Manning's career?

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Curtis Painter has thrown a total of 28 passes in his career. He has a lower rating, but a lower interception rate than Peyton Manning through that many passes.  The point is, whatever Painter is, we don't know yet.  I'm not saying he's good, I'm just saying we have bigger problems, and an almost zero sample size, so all the energy spent hating on Painter is useless.  If we had a great, proven option sitting somewhere that we weren't picking up, that might be something to complain about.  Considering that half the starting QBs in the league are not very good, it seems unlikely that there is a great QB sitting on the couch somewhere. Surely one of the teams having a problem with their 1st QB would have called him already.

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Look at preseason games. He still sucks. There is no pressure bc he pretty much has the job and losing in the preseason doesn’t mean jack. The dude is in his 3rd season and just flat out can’t play. I want him to be good just like anyone else. When we drafted him, i even sd “smart guy who was underrated coming out of college. he is peyton’s successor.” i was acutally kinda stoked about him. But I’m abandoning ship. He is NOT our future.

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by BleedingBlueForever on Aug 17, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Whoa whoa

I don’t think ANYBODY thought Painter was going to be a successor lol.

At best, everybody hoped he’d just be younger and cheaper (and possibly an upgrade over) Jim Sorgi. You don’t draft your “successor” 8-10 years before your star QB retires. That’s absurd.

Still, he does suck and he can’t play. Maybe the Colts will wise up and cut him loose in favor of Orlovsky. There are actually plenty of potential backups out there.

Brian Brohm is still young, though if he isn’t good enough for the Bills…
Brodie Croyle? Troy Smith? Chad Pennington? JIM SORGI? JP Losman? Kerry Collins?

None of these guys are great, but at least a few (Croyle/Smith/Collins/Pennington) would be DEFINITE upgrades over painter for the right price

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Aug 17, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Painter Sucks

Its quite clear painter sucks and thats fine. Realistically, the way this team is built i can’t think of a single veteran backup the colts could sign that could take them to the playoffs. Why pay backup 2 million that still can’t carry team to playoffs when you can just pay some kid 400, 000 and trust history that Manning will remain durable for the entire season. With the retooled line greater emphasis has been placed on protecting manning he took a lot of shots last yr. As long as peyton is healthy Painter is the best QB for this team unless there is a QB that would accept an even lower salary

by sonarus on Aug 18, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like Curtis Painter as a human being. I like what he did at Purdue. After seeing his body of work last year, I really hope Painter can get over it (whatever it is) and play well… but he’s jittery, nervous, and just isn’t showing his potential on the field.

The stats for Manning are for a single game. In that game, Manning threw 37 times and put up 302 yards including a beautiful 42 yard strike and 1 TD. Enough for people to see the guy could play QB in the NFL.

Here are painter’s stats:
Games: 2
8-28 28.6% for 83 yards (2.96 avg)
Longest pass: 10 yards.
0 TD
2 INT
1 FUM
9.8 QB Rating

-- Life is to short to take everything serious. Especially sports blogs.

by indymike on Aug 17, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not saying

That Painter is the next Manning or the future of the franchise. I’m not even saying that he’s good (or bad). I’m saying you know nothing about him on the basis of 28 passes.

You talk about that game as if Manning’s numbers from it don’t really matter. Of course they don’t really matter, just like Painter’s numbers from 28 passes don’t really matter, even though people throw them around all the time.

I think people should come in off the ledge about our backup QB situation. If Manning goes down, we’re going to bring Testaverde or someone back from the dead anyway. Wringing our hands about the difference between two guys that we really don’t know anything about (e.g. Painter v. Brandstater) is silly.

by SteveW on Aug 17, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Painter

can make all the throws. I think that’s the most important thing. The music is playing pretty fast out there—both for him and the receivers. If he had to play, he would get better fast because he would get more experience. Didn’t Manning go 3-13 his first season? That was a season with lots of 1st round picks on the roster (Manning, Faulk, Glenn, Harrison, and more) and a running back that just went into the Hall of Fame! I wasn’t alive way back then, but how bad was that to watch? If Painter were forced to play and went 3-13 would we invite him back to try again next year?

Nobody can replace Peyton manning, but Painter could develop into an 8-8 player. That’s all you can expect from a backup. If he were good enough to get a team to the playoffs, he would be a starter on another team. There are only a a dozen guys in the whole country that are good enough to play that position at an NFL level and they are all on NFL teams. The rest of the guys are hired to throw practice balls, are hired because the owner smokes crack, or just because they are the best of the not-good-enough and you gotta have someone out there to take the snap.

Think about playing quarterback. It’s worse than doing carrier landings in the dark. It doesn’t matter what you do to prepare: you have three seconds. In three seconds the scariest M.F. you ever laid eyes on is going to try to kill you. Two 6’4" 280# homicidical freaks that can bench press 500# and squat 700# and run 4.8 40s are coming to crush you and they hope you die from it. You have to shove that aside and try to make sense out of the other 20 guys running around everywhere. You start with a plan, but unless you have a 25 year-old Marvin Harrison to bail you out, the plan goes out the window. You have to go through your list—the clock is ticking and there are only 3 ticks— and you have to do something right now. 12 guys in the country can step up in the pocket, sense danger without looking back, take the blow without the prior knowledge of it messing up their concentration, and not let the last hit effect the next play, plus put in the time for study and have the presence on the field to recognize what they studied. There are times when Manning goes down 5 times in a row, and it doesn’t look like it phases him. He is that perfect warrior. His mind is on winning, not on worrying about anything else.

First round picks go bust every year. You want to make a list? It will take a whole roll of toilet paper. Painter is a 6th round pick. The Colts know he can be an 8-8 player at best. They are going to have to lose Manning, have some really bad seasons and some high draft picks to get a chance at another franchise QB. That’s why franchise QBs make gigantic money. That’s why the rookie caps were set—being a top pick doesn’t mean you get paid like other top picks—prove you are one of the elite 12.

by wcwills on Aug 17, 2011 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Worst analogy ever:

It’s worse than doing carrier landings in the dark.

Except the part where you have engine trouble, miss the trap, crash, are doused in burning jet fuel, then drown while debris kills five sailors, you total a $43 million jet and do $12 million in damage to the flight deck in the process.

Sorry, but NFL QB isn’t anything like being a Naval Aviator.

-- Life is to short to take everything serious. Especially sports blogs.

by indymike on Aug 18, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

The analogy is actually pretty well used.

Night time landings on a carrier require a lot of skill and quite frankly, a lot of guts/balls. Being a successful QB in the NFL is much the same. I definitely would have preferred a different analogy, but it wasn’t nearly the worst he could have used.

As for your response, while being a franchise QB doesn’t kill anyone, if a team misses, they can become the worst place in the world to play, lose hundreds of millions of dollars, lose quality players, etc…and I really think that more than anything is what the guy was trying to relay…

by DevilsReject on Aug 18, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

In my rosy colored world

we draft Manning’s replacement in 2015 after winning two SB. Til then who cares who backs him up

"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"

by indylator on Aug 17, 2011 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm. There may be a pretty good QB at IU about ready to come out then.

"I do the usual. I bowl, I drive, I have the ocassional acid flashback"
"Dude" from the Big Lebowski

by PV Mike on Aug 18, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

That...

is exactly the right thinking.

by wcwills on Aug 18, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about trading a late round pick for Brady Quinn

I am sure I will get some grief on this but I still like what Quinn can bring to the table. He is a strong QB who can stand in the pocket and make the throws down field. At Cleveland he never had any solid receivers to work with, a marginal line at best, and poor coaching. He never had a chance to be successful. He was never given a real chance at Denver either. I am not saying he is a replacement to Manning, but if we can get him for a 6 or 7 it would be an improvement to what we currently have.

by Colts Forever on Aug 18, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Except those in Denver fans hell-bent on playing Tebow

many say he has performed better in camp than Tebow and should be #2 there.

"I do the usual. I bowl, I drive, I have the ocassional acid flashback"
"Dude" from the Big Lebowski

by PV Mike on Aug 18, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

'marginal line at best'

What would you call the Colts’ line?

by Ayrshire on Aug 19, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

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