Indianapolis Colts At Cincinnati Bengals: What To Watch For
The annual tradition of letting a bunch of guys who won't be on the Colts roster after this weekend play against a bunch of guys who won't be on the Bengals roster after this weekend is renewed tonight when the Colts travel to Cincinnati to take on the Bengals. The two teams always end the preseason against each other, mostly because they are only about 120 miles apart, and since it is Week 4 of the preseason, the starters almost never play.
For the first time in a while, however, I expect to see the first team for the Colts, including new QB Kerry Collins to play at least one series on offense, with a gradual process of replacing guys through the middle of the second quarter. My hope is that everyone plays in series 1, with Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Pierre Garcon, and Jeff Saturday coming out after that single series, just to get a feel of how it would go with Collins. A three-and-out might change my mind, but I think everyone needs a little work together, just in case.
On Defense I wouldn't expect the starters to play at all, but if I had to guess Pat Angerer may see some time, as well as Ernie Sims, at least for a quarter. There is going to be a lot of tough decisions defensively for the coaching staff/front office, so I'm going to guess the less you see of a guy tonight, the better chance he has to make the team. If they aren't on the field (unless there is another Chip Vaughn incident), it means they've made up their mind on that guy, and don't need to see any more of him.
What I'll be watching for tonight:
- Kerry Collins: Can he start in Week 1? - I expect Collins to play into the second quarter, as the staff got an extensive look at Curtis Painter last week. If things go well, I could see the Colts leading another preseason game into the second half. Pay close attention to the 10-15 yard out routes, if they run any, as those are how you tell what he's got left in terms of arm strength and accuracy. Personally, he'd have to play worse than Painter did against the Redskins to have any consideration of playing Painter in the opener if Peyton Manning can't go, but I don't expect that to happen.
- Who will be WR #4 and WR #5? - We talked at length yesterday about Anthony Gonzalez, and whether he should or should not make this roster. I think at this point, he can only be counted on as option #5 at best, until he can get healthy. Either way, another WR is making this team, as I can't see them taking Blair White off the PUP now. If they do, Gonzo will definitely not be on the roster. Based on last week, I think Chris Brooks will become WR #4, and if he comes out before halftime it'll signal he's made the team. Same could be said for David Gilreath, but I'm less sure about him. Remember, Brandon James scored three touchdowns in this game last year, and was still cut.
- Second Team Interior Offensive Line - With Ryan Diem moving inside, and the emergence of Joe Reitz to the First team, one of the three guys that were on the Interior of the OL last year will be cut, whether it's Jamey Richard, Mike Pollak, or Kyle DeVan. Tonight these guys need to show why they should make the team. If I were calling plays, I'd run the ball right up the middle behind these guys, and see how well they do. I'm sure it won't happen often, but I can dream, right?
- Defensive End Play - There are going to be 2 or 3 pretty good players cut from the Defensive Line, and I expect them to get picked up by somebody after they are cut. I think, at this moment, Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis are the only two sure things. They are going to be playing against back-up Offensive Linemen. These guys should be causing havoc in the backfield on whoever is playing QB for the Bengals, even with just rushing four guys.
- Overall Pass Defense / Tackling - This was much better last week against the Packers than the first two weeks. I think at both Linebacker and in the secondary, the roster is pretty much set, save for one LB spot, but I think that should and will go to Adrian Moten. I hope we get to see more of Chris Rucker this week too.
What I want to see, but probably won't:
- Going for it on 4th Down all the time - The punt team, surprisingly, has been quite good this preseason, and has gotten lots of practice. I think more can come out of actually going for it on 4th down, no matter where the Colts are on the field, than just punting it away like normal. It'll put guys in high-pressure situations, which you cannot replicate in practice. See if they can get that 4th and 4 backed-up. If the offense misses it, see if the defense can hold the Bengals to a field goal. Practice these real game situations when the consequences are minimal. Please. I love Pat McAfee, but he's had plenty of work this preseason.
- All short yardage plays should be runs - It does no good to have Dan Orlovsky throw to random WR on a 3rd and 2 to try and get the first down, as neither guy will be on the team after Saturday. What they could do, though, is get Delone Carter in there behind those Offensive Linemen playing for a job, and see what they can do. This applies inside the 10 yard line as well. Valuable situations that don't have the same pressure as in practice.
- Let the Cornerbacks play a little Man Coverage - Again, it's good to see this in a preseason game, to see if these guys could break out of the Cover 2 and cover somebody one on one in live action. Doesn't have to be often, but the preseason should be to see who can do what. You don't get that luxury during the regular season. Better to find out now than pay for it later.
Kickoff is schedule for 7:00 pm ET tonight, and it's being broadcast live on NFL Network. Not sure if here locally we'll be forced to watch the grainy Channel 23 standard definition broadcast, but I hope not. What else will you be watching for?
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I'll Be There
I’ll be in the Bungle Jungle tonight. Looking forward to seeing how Kerry Collins plays.
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I'll be there also
Besides being miserable in the heat, I’m looking forward to seeing Collins in action as well.
It could be a somewhat interesting first quarter. I would hope Collins can get some work in with the first team guys but I think the Bengals will be playing their first team guys because they need all of the work they can get.
AJ Green against the Colts secondary could be ugly for us.
Looking forward to seeing Carter in person and if Hughes is even in the building.
AJ Green
AJ Green doesn’t scare me as much as Andy ‘Ginja Ninja’ Dalton scares me at QB for the Bengals… OK he doesn’t scare me either. Just like saying ‘Ginja Ninja’
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kerry collins
In a colts uniform is a weird sight after cursing him in Tennessee the past couple of years.
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing...
I want to see Gilreath and Lefeged...
I think Gilreath has a shot just because of his ST ability. I want to see him run some more routes and show value as a WR.
I love Lefeged and want to see him just so I can say his name more!
Bleedin' Blue for as long as I can remember. Can you believe we get to be fans while our team has the greatest QB of all time?!?!?!
I would like to see
Jerry Hughes do something, anything tonight.
I dont want to see Painter. We know what he can and mostly, cannot do
Go Blue!
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I'll be keeping
an eye on Chris Brooks. I like the fact that, at 6’2", he’s taller than the typical 6’0" Colts receiver. Plus, he’s shown some real potential. Maybe he’ll be the replacement for Gonzo.
by Ayrshire on Sep 1, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Great write up
I’d really like to see some of those things on the last list too. Especially running the ball in short-yardage situations and going for it on 4th and anything. Would make for good practice for both the offense (and defense if they don’t make it).
Hamlin
Would Ike to see if this guy can play. We are extremely this at safety. Hopefully he can be a competent backup…
by Kdog@usi on Sep 1, 2011 1:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Safety Play
Gonna be eyeing the safeties all night. With Bethea injured with a hamstring, I want to see who can backup Bethea, and from what I saw the past few games, no one really can. Mike Newton was ok, but he was cut. Melvin Bullitt has also been weak at the strong safety position, but then again, David Caldwell isn’t any better. I want to see them move Chris Rucker to the safety position, apparently he was a cornerback/safety hybrid in college so I’d like to see some of Chris Rucker on the field.
David
Caldwell is gone too from what I heard…
by Kdog@usi on Sep 1, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fantastic! Did they hire Gruden?
"We want the ball and we're gonna score" Future HOFer Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Williamson's 31st rated NFL QB
Damn, I was hoping our coach's name was David James Caldwell
"We want the ball and we're gonna score" Future HOFer Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Williamson's 31st rated NFL QB
Things to look for (cont'd)
Great post mgrex03. I agree with most of what was written. I’ll definitely be watching the continued development of the offensive line, Kerry Collins’ ability to run the stretch play without disclosing his intentions, the special teams’ maturation and the defensive line’s ability to disrupt the Bengals’ offensive game plan. That said, here are some other things I’ll be looking/anticipating/hoping for:
1) Kerry Collins to run this offense WITH efficiency and actually air it out….
2) Pierre Garcon to drop at least one ball that would have kept the chains moving….
3) David Gilreath and Joe Lefeged to break long ones forcing the Colts to keep both..
4) Curtis Painter to pick up the clipboard…and never, EVER, put it down again!!!
5) Pat McAfee to continue to boom punts at least 60 yrds or more and attempt a FG…
6) Coach Caldwell to show some emoti……make that ANY emotion, post the Chip Vaughn meltdown……
7) Mr. Chip Vaughn….in street clothes…..watching the game…AND
8) A pre-season win for the Colts……
Santa, put down the Pepsi and make it so.
by KappakidToo on Sep 1, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I know what you meant...
but it reads you are looking/anticipating/hoping for: Pierre Garcon to drop at least one ball that would have kept the chains moving….
I’m not hoping to ever see that again lol!!
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by TRDean on Sep 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I may be a little prejudiced
but this could be a really good year for Garcon. Everyone here would enjoy that.
darren evans
Ill be watching evans and spann very closely as I expect they’ll get most of the carries tonight. I know jj has done really well this preseason, but because of the hometown factor, I’m really rooting for these kids.
By now I probably sound like a broken record, but I am watching and rooting bigtime for my darkhorse……Terrence Johnson. I really like this kid and think the colts have found another small school gem.
by tenaytiousd32 on Sep 1, 2011 6:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Anticipation.....
a : a prior action that takes into account or forestalls a later action….
I am a Garcon fan, yes I am………..However, I didn’t say that I eagerly anticipated his drop, but I honestly believe it WILL happen…..unfortunately.
Woof......
What a dog of a game. Let’s face it, this team could us one more pre-season game. Here’s what we learned:
1) Pat Williams could certainly help this defense.
2) Philip Wheeler deserves to be on this team.
3) Travis Baltz can, indeed, punt with consistency.
4) The offensive linemen this evening were MIA.
5) This game was so slow, from a Colt’s perspective, that the Hoveround commercial had more action.
6) Our coaching, from top to bottom, seems to be missing something.
7) We might be looking up at the Texans this year……..
I really hope I’m wrong on that last one.
Manning will come in
and save the day, as usual. Don’t fret.
Obviously....
I wrote this one BEFORE the Colts pulled a bunny out the back of their collective pants and won the game, but Jeez! I stand by that earlier comment about needing an extra game. Other teams look far more prepared than we do. I hope that a lot gets done before that first game in Houston on 9/11…. A WHOLE LOT!



































