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So, Who's To Blame For This Big, Fat Colts Mess?

INDIANAPOLIS, IN - SEPTEMBER 18: A Colts fan looks on during the game between the Indianapolis Colts against the Cleveland Browns at Lucas Oil Stadium on September 18, 2011 in Indianapolis, Indiana. (Photo by Scott Boehm/Getty Images)

When Bob Kravitz of the Indianapolis Star isn't making useless opinion columns calling for the Colts to sign Brett Favre (what?), he's tweeting veiled insults at the Colts fanbase:

Remember, this franchise has won 10-plus and made post-season for over a decade. That should buy them some goodwill, doncha think?

Um, no.

First off, this franchise has been to the playoff nine straight years, not ten.

Second, goodwill isn't accomplished by the Colts franchise simply 'winning' a lot over a ten-year period. Though winning regular season games is nice, in five of those ten years, the Colts were one-and-done in the post-season, meaning that, essentially, the trip to the playoffs was a worthless venture that provided little fulfillment to the fans. 

In each of their one-and-done playoff loses, this club folded to a team they were favored to beat.

  • In 2002, they were favored to beat the Jets, but ended up losing 41-0.
  • In 2005, they were the No. 1 seed in the AFC, and lost at home to the No. 8 seeded Steelers.
  • In 2007, they were the no. 2 seed in the AFC, and lost at home to Norv Turner, Bill Volek, and the Chargers.
  • In 2008, after winning nine games in a row after a 3-4 start, the Colts lost to the Chargers again, allowing Darren Sproles to run all over them to the tune of 105 yards and two TDs, including the game-winner in O.T.
  • In 2010, they had the lead with 1:00 left only to choke on special teams and allow Antonio Cromartie to return the kickoff inside Colts territory. A few plays later, Nick Folk kicks a game-winning FG, and the Colts are one-and-done, again.

Now, obviously, 'sprinkled' into that mix of nine years of making the playoffs are three trips to the AFC Championship Game, two Super Bowls, and one championship. That's nothing to dismiss. I've been a fan for nineteen years, and these last nine years (in comparison to the previous twelve) have been fun and, for the most part, very enjoyable.

However, during that same period of time, I've watched the front office act in a way that was unprofessional to media and indignant towards the fanbase. I've written about it constantly, and I've spoken about it until I was seemingly blue in the face. Time and again, we've been told by the Colts that the media are idiots and that no one cares what the fans think.

Gee, thanks guys.

I also don't buy into this silly and rather demeaning concept that winning is, somehow, doing a 'favor' to the fans, as if we should appreciate it, or something.

This might be a newsflash to some, but winning isn't a gift. It's f*cking expected. Fans pay good, hard-earned money to see their teams win, and when their team doesn't win, Indy fans expect accountability. Crazy concept, I know. We Midwesterns are known for our insanity.

Star-divide

Look, I'm not going to use this as yet another Polian Slam article. We're all going to get plenty of Polian bashing as the season progresses. The man and his family have built up a reservoir of bad blood with media and fans over the decades. This year, people will pile it on them, and it will be more than justified. They'll respond with their typical zombie mantra of 'Look what this place was before we got here,' forgetting the whole while that winning is kind of the reason they're paid their seven figure salaries.

One does not get smiles and handshakes for doing their job. One does not build up 'goodwill' when they do what they're handsomely paid to do. One builds up goodwill with fans when they exceed expectations, or when they do everything possible to treat the customer with dignity and respect.

The Colts haven't done that.

Despite the anger, fans would let it go as long as Peyton Manning could return and save the day. Peyton represents everything Colts fans love.

  • Hard work
  • Toughness
  • Dedication
  • Leadership
  • Accountability

It also doesn't hurt that Peyton is the best QB on the planet. I mean, all five of those traits are inherent in Kerry Collins. But, right now, he's just not that great of a QB for this team.

Now, as things begin to unravel, and as the loses start to mount, one question that will get asked over and over is, 'Who is to blame for all this?'

By 'all this,' I mean the dramatic abandonment Colts fans are likely to do with their team. Bob Kravitz tweeted today that it would be embarrassing if, in front of a national audience next week, that Lucas Oil Stadium is full of yellow towel twirling Steelers fans. Yes, it would be embarrassing, but that embarrassment would be as a result of piss poor public relations by the Colts towards their fans, not 'flaky' fans turning away from the team just because they're bad.

Likely, when the blame game is tossed around, the team will point the finger at fans and use this as an example of how 'flaky' and 'ungrateful' they are.

Let's head this off right now by reminding everyone that:

  • Fans and taxpayers paid 85% of Lucas Oil Stadium's $720 million dollar construction cost.
  • Fans pay all of the operating costs ($27.7 million).
  • Fans pay for parking, overpriced concessions, and the increasingly expensive gasoline that it take to get to games.
  • The Midwest has been absolutely devastated by the mishandling of Wall Street and the recent financial collapses. Jobs are scarce, and people have to work more to earn less than what they did ten years ago. Asking these people (who are already paying higher taxes to pay for this stadium) to fork over $300 bucks a pop to watch this crappy team is an insult.
  • Knowing the current financial state of many Hoosiers, if they can get serious money (perhaps an extra $100 or $200 a ticket) if they sell their ticket to a Steelers fan, they'll do it. In fact, they'd be stupid not to.

This isn't about loyalty. This is business. Bottom line. Cold, hard dollars and sense.

Business was the driving force behind the ridiculous NFL lockout this past Spring and Summer, a lockout that has been all but forgotten. If business is what motivates the NFL, why get all pissy with fans when business and money motivates them?

As I often say, it's the job of the front office and the coaches to make the team worthy of fan's time. If they can't do that, they shouldn't get upset if fans don't show. This, in turn , should help motivate the team owner to make changes within the coaching staff and front office so the fans don't leave.

Because, seriously, if there is no pressure to win, if there is no motivating force to get these businesses known as NFL teams to provide a quality product on the field worthy of fans time and money, then they won't concern themselves with making a winning product.

So, what we come back to is, 'Who is to blame?' My answer is not the fans.

Fans pay money they don't always have for a winning product. And, as we have consistently been told by the owner, the front office, and the coaches for years, the expectations in Indy are for winning. Nothing else. This isn't Detroit, Houston, Tampa Bay, or Jacksonville, where fan expectations are measured in the team not sucking as much as fans think it will.

In Indy, expectations are for greatness. That's what we're all paying for, at least.

Coming into this year, the expectations weren't for Andrew Luck in 2012. I understand that Peyton's injury was not planned for, but part of the reason fans are mad is because it probably should have been planned for.

I guess my point in this rant is to say that we, as fans, have been conditioned and encouraged to have high expectations. When those expectations aren't met, when they fall so short that it seems laughable to have had them in the first place, I don't think it's correct to blame the fans for having those expectations, or to dismiss them as not being 'realistic.' Once you start doing that, it just alienates them further, breeding more resentment.

Again, fans pay for winning football. When they don't get it, teams and owners shouldn't expect fans to show up. It's just that simple. Nothing personal, mind you.

Just business.

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I blame Peyton Manning.

Yes, I said it. He’s the root cause of all the problems we’ve witnessed these past two games and why this team seems to suck so bad. Allow me to elaborate:

If Peyton weren’t so damn good the rest of this team might actually be a little more polished around the edges instead of being so heavily centered around one guy. It’s been mentioned before, but he masks any and all flaws with this team at certain times throughout a game or season, giving us the illusion that this team is elite when it’s really not. I believe this makes a lot of the other players on the team become more complacent because if they screw up they can just say, “Oh darn, it’s ok, number 18 will save the day again.” And when this doesn’t happen, Colts nations simultaneously shits bricks and it seems like the world is about to implode.

Unfortuantely, this has a ripple effect all the way up to the head honchos in the control room. They figure, “Eh, what’s the point in actively finding stellar talent and spending all kinds of money on big name guys to help the team when we could just sign a bunch of no name guys and profit more. Hells yea, what a great idea! We’re geniuses!”

So then, now that we’ve discovered with the root cause of the Colts ineptitude, it’s time to work on a solution. Anyone?

by KingRichard on Sep 19, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

Build a time machine

1) Go to the future and get a cloning machine
2) return to the present and clone Peyton
3) Profit

by icedude on Sep 19, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Needs more steps

3) inform Polian that you have a healthy, cloned Peyton and that you will now be calling the shots until further notice
4) kidnap injured Peyton and replace him with healthy, cloned Peyton
5) fire Caldwell, hire real coach and real coaching staff.
6) profit

I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by AceOfSpades on Sep 19, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going by original texts,

it should be a 4-step system, with step 3 as: ???

"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.

by McAfee#1 on Sep 19, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't follow what you are saying...

I’m just a simple caveman lawyer

I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by AceOfSpades on Sep 19, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

More like:
1) Build time machine
2) Go to future and write down winning lottery numbers
3) Go to past
4) Profit
5) Winning

by KingRichard on Sep 19, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah....

For you to get banned would help. BLASPHEMY!!

LET THE HATERS HATE.

by INdymayneNVegas on Sep 19, 2011 5:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

a sarcasm button might help more.

just imagine it’s in default for KR and you’ll do alright. he used to be one of the writers here and was known for snarky remarks. I believe KR’s post is just saying how great manning is.

or is yours sarcasm as well? i don’t disagree with “blasphemy” but calling for banning KR seems a bit misplaced.

"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.

by McAfee#1 on Sep 19, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^This guy knows what’s up.

by KingRichard on Sep 19, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we can all agree that it was Peyton Manning who made stars of most of the offense now? And not that it was because he had some elite level of supporting class that Manning was able put up the eye popping numbers he has?

by JCub3d on Sep 19, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think it was ever in doubt around these parts that manning elevates the play of everyone around him,

certainly on offense. however, harrison is legit HOF and Wayne is legit multi-ProBowler. Edge was, indeed, a beast, and Addai is actually criminally underrated. To suggest that manning’s success is attributable mainly to his supporting cast is akin to calling the likes of aaron moorehead, blair white, dominic rhodes, ben utecht, and bryan fletcher all-pros.

"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.

by McAfee#1 on Sep 19, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

even with manning

it was obvious the defense and special teams have been mediocre for years.

by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 19, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And don't blame it on P for having a high salary

Tom Brady isn’t getting paid with nickles and dimes and the Pats seem to do a good job of fielding a balanced team and good defense / special teams year after year.

Also, why is it that starting players can’t get out there on special teams when needed for this team? Would it be too much to ask to have a few starters out there to get the job done and get the point across that sucking on kick coverage and kick returns is unacceptable?

Nah, who am I kidding.

I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by AceOfSpades on Sep 19, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Love your signature line,...

although I’m a Guinness guy myself.

by Ayrshire on Sep 19, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

enough with the beer

"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"

by indylator on Sep 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

been thinking the samething for years

if guys like mike vrabel, deion sanders, rodney harrison, deshawn jackson, etc can play special teams why not guy like gary bracket, mathis, etc???

by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 19, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeap, that’s precisely it. The players on the Colts can’t even play in their normal positions for long without being knocked out of a game. I can only imagine how bad it would be if they played special teams too.

by KingRichard on Sep 19, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

there are tons of homers that frequent this site that are being blindsided right now. they actually thought gary bracket was a beast, freeney and mathis were good against the run, the wr’s were the best in the league, jim caldwell was an asset, the offensive line would be immediately reborn, etc…

by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 19, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd shudder every time I read a homer post realizing they

truly believed our team was loaded with “talent”.

I don’t think anybody thinks Caldwell’s an asset except some stoney in Zambia.

by SoCalHoosier on Sep 19, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I knew some fans were doomed when they were calling Blair White a good NFL wide receiver. Some even said he’s a Collie-clone with more size.

This is fun though, let’s expand:
-Some people thought we had a great LB core, above average in fact, with Brackett/Conner/Angerer
-They thought Antonio Johnson was a good DT.
-They thought Melvin Bullitt was a pro-bowl calibur safety.
-They thought Jeff Saturday is still an elite Center.
-They thought Charlie Johnson and Ryan Diem were decent lineman.
-They thought Jim Caldwell should be praised, not criticized for his first 2 seasons.
-They thought Bill Polian was still the best drafter in the league.

Wow.

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check out the new Colts blog!

by kmbryant09 on Sep 19, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

wow,

couldn’t have said it better!

by chadm832 on Sep 19, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't forget...

“donald brown is a home run hitter.”

by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 19, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do think the LB core is above average

At least in terms of potential, if not as polished finished products as is.

Angerer is going to replace Brackett within a season or two, and I would say he is a good linebacker. Conner has obvious coverage issues, but he’s serviceable and can get a better (second year only). Wheeler has shown ability in the joker role (which was how he was originally projected in the draft). Sims is an average linebacker. I think Moten could be a very good coverage linebacker.

Brackett is the gray area. He’s no longer what he was a few seasons ago, but he plays smart and is still pretty good at spying the QB and dropping back into coverage. He’s undersized but he’s gritty, and a hard player not to like, even if that causes fans to overrate him. His age is definitely the main issue.

I don’t think the LB core is “great”, but I wouldn’t argue against slightly above average, which makes it probably our best unit on the team (aside from receivers I’d say).

So maybe I actually do agree with everything you’re saying =P

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Sep 20, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am numb to it

I expect many losses this season and I just hope they don’t screw this thing up in next years draft because they need to hit a homerun on each of the first 3 picks at least to get this team back on track when Manning is healthy again.

I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by AceOfSpades on Sep 19, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Sep 20, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

great post

SALUTE’!!!

TTYL,
Big Blue Dawg

by BigBlueDawg on Sep 19, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

So we're all just getting ripped off now? That's the argument?

Fans in every city pay obscenely.
Half the teams lose every week.
Therefore there should be a riot in 16 cities every week.
Keep throwing out the red meat, and you may just get the riot you’re asking for. And that might truly be a good thing for society, if we stand up and say no to Big Sports. But when everyone’s disgusted with the Colts organization, who’s going to read this blog? Everyone who’s a sports fan should realize the fact that it’s a meaningless, expensive luxurious fantasy, a true Roman circus meant to distract from what’s really going on. At least there’s a sliding scale to partake — you can stay home and watch for free or you can spend umteengazillion to watch from the front row, whatever it’s worth to you.
But I just happen to be stupid enough to be a fan anyway, like any other fool wasting their time here. For pete’s sake, it’s week 2→3. Can’t you wait till we’re 0-6? 2-11? You’re going to run out of superlative denouncements. You’re already up to “they’re ripping us off.” Where do you go from here? [Cue South Park: "Thur takin’ our jooooobs!].
Through two games, 25% of the league should be 0-2. NFL is a competitive league. If you slip a bit, there’s always a bully ready to eat your lunch. The margins between great good fair poor and awful are tiny. I think sometimes many see only great and awful. I’m sorry for those who feel going 1 and done in the playoffs is a disaster. We don’t get to play Peterson’s School of Dentistry.
I’ve very proud to have been a colts fan for 25 or so years. May Andrew Luck be happy with his new team, … anyone but the Colts, as I hope that role if filled here for years to come.

Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy

by zherebyonki on Sep 19, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The biggest bitch I have is.

  Why is Bob Kravitz playing the role of the Indianapolis Colts apologist? I understand where he is coming from. But, this sounds like the words right out of BP or JI’s mouth. I have slowly come around too BBS and his opinion that, you can still be a fan of the team and be critical. The last 4 years have been botched beyond comprehension. The superior play of Peyton Manning is the only reason Indy has been successful. This season is necessary for more than one reason. Peyton is going too be more prone to injury now. So, the FO needs to protect Peytons health with a bigger emphasis on the running game, defense and special teams. The ability to score is great, it puts butts in the seats. But, we need improvement across the board to prolong PM’s career.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Sep 19, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

even with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, i think "botched beyond comprehension" is a bit strong

Over the past 4 years our cap situation and end-of-round draft position hasn’t helped matters. I’m with you 100% on taking this year and the offseason to focus on the running game, the Oline, the D, & ST. We already have a lot of $ tied up in star players, but It would be a step backwards if we aren’t able to retain Wayne for another year or two. Somehow they’ve gotta make this cap work.

Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy

by zherebyonki on Sep 19, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Z.

  I hear your point loud and clear. However, the lower drafting position hasn’t prevented the Steelers, Patriots, Eagles, Cowboys, Chargers and Ravens from adding quality depth. I believe, we could have addressed a certain area in each of the drafts. For example, the special teams wouldn’t need to have a whole draft to help improve the coverage units and return units. I believe, even drafting low we could have drafted quality ST players. BP in his Buffalo days drafted Steve Tasker, Tasker is prolly the best ST player to play in the NFL. I’m just curious how he wasn’t able to get it together.
  The Defense has also been neglected til last year. I know how hind site is 20/20. But, something else was in play for the last 5 drafts. BP is a HOF GM and will go down as the best GM or one of the best of all time.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Sep 20, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

great points about the other elite teams

If i wasn’t lazy I’d compute the average draft position of those teams over the past 5 or more years.
And I think, yes, the Greeks would help, if it weren’t for that EU/NATO thing. Besides, the Russians share Orthodoxy and half their alphabet with the Hellenes, as well as that centuries old animosity toward the Turks. Here’s to peace in Eurasia.

Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy

by zherebyonki on Sep 21, 2011 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blaming & Complaining

  Those of you who are not content to be ‘just fans’, but who like to think like a General Manager, knew this day was coming. Besides being a jerk, Bill Polian was primarily responsibile for the 1st-Round draft failures from 2007/2010. He was in charge of personnel decisions. I do think that he can share the Tony Ugoh disaster equally with his son Chris and coach Tony Dungy, who wanted to gamble, and talked the two Polians into it. The rest of the mistakes ( Gonzalez, Pollak, Brown, Hughes, etc. ) appear to be squarely on his shoulders.
  Am I wrong here? We fans have limited information on what goes on behind the doors at the Colt’s complex. Question: We have been informed that Bill no longer handles personnel decisions, and now only handles day-to-day operations. Does that mean he can no longer do harm? I don’t know; since the Super Bowl in ‘07, the Colts have been losing people in their scouting department due to ’budget cuts’, and top coaches have departed.
Is that Bill’s fault, or is Irsay involved in these decisions?
   The most important front office evaluation for Irsay is Chris Polian, not Bill. In his first try at handling the draft and FA, I think he has done a marvelous job. Is it a fluke? I think we will get the definitive answer in the 2012 draft, assuming Irsay doesn’t decide to kick ALL the Polians out of town. Sometimes the son is not like the father. Jim Irsay’s father meant well, but he was clueless, and did more damage than good. I’m hoping that the younger Irsay has been doing his homework on the performance of executives and coaches on other teams, and will pull the trigger if necessary to upgrade the front office. I do think that Chris Polian, based on his performance in this year’s offseason, deserves a chance.
  Moving forward past this season, which is unlikely to result in making the playoffs, all decisions depend on the evaluation of Manning’s health. The preliminary prognosis seems to indicate a likely recovery by next season, but will he be prone to have the neck problems re-occur? His health issues will determine whether this team is in full rebuilding mode, or else returning to the quest for the Super Bowl with Manning for 2-3 more seasons.
  The problem here is that too many positions on the team are still filled by mediocre talents, and Manning may not be as effective as he was. Everything has to work out just right for another Super Bowl run. With a limited future for Manning, a general manager HAS to consider the search for his eventual successor. I do not think the Colts will be so bad this year that Andrew Luck will be available. However, two other franchise QB’s might be: Landry Jones and Matt Barkey. For me, the ideal situation would be to draft any one of these three QB’s, and have them learn from the Master for 2-3 years. The Colts would likely be much better in 2012, and would miss the rare opportunity to get a ‘franchise’ QB if they don’t grab one in 2012’s draft.
   I have this dream of Manning becoming Offensive Coordinator and eventually Head Coach. If he can’t play effectively in 2012, I would offer him the OC position immediately, and pick up a good DC like Zimmer from the Bengals. I am expecting a coaching clean-out anyway. If Manning is not interested in coaching, there are a lot of quality replacements out there for the head coache’s job. I like the idea of jerks like Rex Ryan and Bill Belicheat still having to prepare for Peyton’s massive intellect, even if someone else is actually throwing the football.
  As far as ‘complaining’, I would only complain if the ownership wasn’t making an honest attempt to win, or showed little ability to do it. This ain’t the ‘Tiger Bob’ Colts or the Chicago Cubs. I just hope Jim Irsay makes the proper decisions before next season.
Complaining and whining on this website only entertains the trolls from other teams.
If the Colts draft well next year, then I believe that this lousy season will be a one-time occurance. Go Colts.

by Ufansince65 on Sep 19, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok haven't read everything above me.....

so forgive me if I’m “beating a dead horse”. Gonzalez (a number 2 receiver at Ohio St., a run based team) first round pick, Donald Brown first rd pick (taken immediately after Kenny Britt, and Hakeem Nicks, 2nd RD LeSean McCoy. This isn’t hindsight either, I said before the draft they should take any of the three they could get). Jerry Hughes, well he’s terrible, First rd pick. I’m going to say it…Joe Addai (never started a game a LSU because of durability issues that he still has. Although he put up numbers, his college coach said he had durability issues, again First round pick! I think I can speak for all fans in saying that I didn’t draft this excuse for a team. If you continually draft bad first rounders Polian what do you expect. You ran Buffalo and Carolina in the ground now your arrogant ass is doing it to OUR team. I didn’t re-new my season tickets after a promise I made to my wife: If we get outcoached in another big game (after the loss to the Saints in the SB) I will not get tix again. Enter the N.Y. Jets and coach Dumbwell. That and the continued humanitarian award winners rather than game changers we take in the first round, a.k.a Jerry Hughes (look it up). The fans didn’t do that Kravitz you jackwagon it was the management. Whoa what happened I blacked out!

by chadm832 on Sep 19, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I meant in D. Browns case

immediately before Britt and Nicks…Genius

by chadm832 on Sep 19, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice post BBS

I particularly agree about the “just business” double standard. As fans, we’re told over and over that it’s just business when a fan favorite is not resigned or prices are raised or there’s a lockout. But when fans make the same sort of calculated business decisions they’re seen as bandwagon fans or traitors. We’re still suffering from the worst recession of most of our lives and the Colts are obviously not going to be the team people originally paid to see when they bought their tickets. If people can make some much-needed money selling their tickets, more power to them. It is possible to still be a fan even if you don’t go to the game. And if non-ticket-holding Colts fans are pissed that some are selling their tickets to visiting team fans, there’s a simple solution: offer more money and buy them yourselves. Otherwise shut up. You’ve heard of “armchair quarterbacks?” Don’t be an armchair fan. If you’re not willing to pay your hard-earned money to watch this team play, then don’t criticize others for making decisions that they need to make.

Nothing's complicated if you understand it.

by ctnyc on Sep 19, 2011 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

leadership

anyone see any leadership on this team? Anyone? I think that is the problem. owner, gm, branch manager er head coach, players.

by Bluetime on Sep 19, 2011 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

The answer to the headline is

God, fate, or the player that horse collared Manning (or a few of them) that caused the initial pinch and resutling inflamation in his neck.

bq.I also don’t buy into this silly and rather demeaning concept that winning is, somehow, doing a ‘favor’ to the fans, as if we should appreciate it, or something.

This might be a newsflash to some, but winning isn’t a gift. It’s f*cking expected. Fans pay good, hard-earned money to see their teams win, and when their team doesn’t win, Indy fans expect accountability. Crazy concept, I know. We Midwesterns are known for our insanity.

The Midwesterners I know don’t spend time howling at the moon and they sure don’t engage in drama like they were in Desperate Houswives or some afternoon soap opera.

"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"

by indylator on Sep 19, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

PLEASE INVEST IN SOME PERSPECTIVE

I can’t believe you’re actually whining about 9 straight years and the playoffs and one super bowl. Some other franchises would die for that kind of success. We’re going to have a down year, deal with it. The team doesn’t owe you shit.

by LikeButtah on Sep 20, 2011 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Bill

By the way, it’s spelled “butter”.

by FatDT on Sep 20, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

It's totally amazing

that people could be happy with only getting to the playoffs and winning one super bowl championship during the Manning era, knowing that if we even had average team management, we’d probably have racked up at least 4 or 5 super bowl championships by now.

by Ayrshire on Sep 20, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed. So much unfulfilled promise. As someone posted, the best that can be hoped for is a “John Elway Ride into the Sunset.”

gweena
Stampede Blue's Resident 'Skins Fan

by gweena on Sep 20, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, the team owes the fans *everything*

I don’t think you quite understand the concept of running a business which exists because its customers continue to give their money to that business.

by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Sep 20, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually agree with Bob about the goodwill part

Bill Simmons has a similar theory about a championship buying a team a certain amount of years as a free pass.

Sometimes it seems as if a Superbowl appearance every year followed by drafting the rookie of the year is the only thing that would satisfy BBS, maybe not even that.

Ever Grateful. Ever True.

by PurdueMatt on Sep 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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