Recap Of The Bill Polian Show: Week 2, 2011
After Bill Polian's meltdown on the radio following the Colts now-infamous handling of the Week Sixteen game against the New York Jets in 2009, the Colts have blocked the call-in radio program named 'The Bill Polian Show' from Internet listeners. This show features Colts vice chairman Bill Polian, and it allows regular Colts fans to call-in and ask him questions which he, frequently, gets annoyed answering. It is the only Colts content that is not streamed live on the net. Thus, because Colts fans outside the Indianapolis area cannot listen in on the show, we provide highlights from the program, which often include Bill Polian saying things he later claims he did not say. However, since the Colts and Mr. Polian do not provide fans or media with recordings of the show, you'll just have to take our word that what we write below is indeed what Mr. Polian actually said. Hope you enjoy.
Well, it's now Week 2, and for the first time since Peyton Manning's rookie year, 1998, the Indianapolis Colts are 0-2 to start a season. But, interestingly, team vice chairman Bill Polian did not seem to terribly upset about it. In fact, all show long, he talking about the need for everyone to have 'cold-hearted realism' when managing expectations for this team.
He also said Curtis Painter is a good quarterback and he mocked people like Tony Dungy who say the Colts defense is 'built to play with a lead.'
Once again, the Indy Star thanked me for live tweeting the event:
Great job tonight and thanks for all the Tweets. Saved me from having to sit in my car for the past hour.
I'll also reiterate that yes, it is indeed stupid that 'The Bill Polian Show' is blocked on the Internet at the request of the Colts. Just another example of how, at the end of the day, this front office really doesn't give two craps about its fans. So, don't feel bad if you sell your Steelers tickets this Sunday.
Now, onto the show!
- Polian started out by saying the Colts improved on many things this past Sunday. The team tackled better and played run 'a whole heckuva lot better.'
- Polian said the team was physical against the run.
- Polian then took one of his three shots at the 'pundits,' mocking the old adage about how tough team s run the ball and stop the run. He cited how Indy ran the ball for 4.2 a carry, and held Cleveland to 3.1 a carry. He neglected to add that Cleveland ran for over 100 yards, scored a very big TD on a 24-yard TD run, and that the Colts, once again, abandoned the run in the fourth quarter. But, hey, that's Bill.
- Polian preached that the 'secret' of winning football games is converting on third down, citing Colts woeful percentage on 3rd down yesterday.
- Polian said he was pleased with how team played physically. Did 'some good things' in passing game.
- Polian felt the only problem is the backend on defensive, but that can be corrected with 'technique.' He also said there were technique' errors in secondary, not blow any coverages.
- Polian said play of special teams was 'very average.' Said Josh Cribbs is the best returner in the NFL.
- Polian: 'We'll get better as the weeks go on'
- Polian said the key play in game was the 3rd and one that was not converted. It was a 'missed block.'
- Polian praised Dick Jauron, Cleveland's DC. Said Cleveland secondary was very good. 'Heckuva football coach.'
- Polian said quarterback Kerry Collins did improve and got better. Polian also called Collins, aA work in progress.' For me, this is the first time I've ever heard Polian say that. Prior to Sunday, Collins was a 'tough' veteran who could learn the offense in a week because he's seen every offense in creation. Now, he's a 'work in progress.'
- When asked about the downward start to the season, Polian said there's no 'god given right' to win ten games every year. Health is a big reason why teams win and lose, and in Indy's case, they got an injury to one area they could not afford to get hurt (Peyton Manning). For me, log this way next time you hear the Colts utter 'Next man up.'
- Polian basically stated that the reason the Colts offense sucks right now is because only Peyton Manning can run it properly. Manning's experience and his ability to prepare make this offense tough for other QBs to work in. For me, seems kind of silly to have an offense that completely flattens out if one guy cannot play. But, that's just me.
- Polian: 'I understand fans are frustrated. When I drive home on Sundays, I'm as frustrated as can be.'
- Polian: We must be 'cold-hearted realistic.' The 'stark reality' is no one can operate Colts offense like Peyton.
- When asked who was responsible for drafting players because, as the caller eloquently stated, the last five or so years the team has drafted 'duds,' Polian offered a rather bizarre answer. First off, Polian answered the questions focusing only on first round picks. Second, Polian acted as if he didn't know who the last five first rounders were. He asked show host Bob Lamey to name them for him. Lamey started out saying Jerry Hughes and Donald Brown. Polian stated that criticism for both players is 'warranted,' but that the jury still isn't out on them. Lamey then jumped to 2005, telling Polian the first rounder that year was Marline Jackson. Next was Joseph Addai in 2006 followed by Anthony Gonzalez in 2007. Polian said Gonzo was a good player, and that his injuries weren't his fault. Lamey did not mentioned Tony Ugoh (who the Colts traded their 2008 first rounder to get), but he did mention Mike Pollak. 'He played well yesterday,' Lamey said. 'He certainly did,' Polian answered. And that was it. Both Polian and Lamey then concluded that the drafts were 'a mixed bag' over the last four or five years, and 'that's to be expected.'
- Bill Polian: 'I'm responsible for the draft.'
- When asked about Curtis Painter from a caller, Polian said Painter will be a good QB in this league. 'No one here is quitting on Curtis.'
- Polian: 'We think Curtis has a good future.'
- When asked about Andrew Luck, Polian oddly answered he could not comment on Luck because 'he is an underclassman.' Luck is a senior at Stanford, and nothing 'prevents' Polian from commenting on him.
- When asked about the poor play of the Colts defense, Polian answered that the reason the Colts don't have a good defense because team doesn't have 350 pound defensive tackles.
- Polian then mocked the 'pundits' and the 'talking heads' who say the Colts defense only plays well when it has a lead. He suggested the notion was silly and cited, of all things, Peyton Manning's fourth quarter comeback record.
- It's important to point out that one of the 'talking heads' who repeatedly says the Colts defense is built to play with a lead is former-Colts coach Tony Dungy. In fact, he said so last night on NBC's Football Night In America.
- Polian stated he is not at all down on the defense, praising the safety play of Melvin Bullitt and Antoine Bethea. He said defense 'should feel proud of what they did yesterday.'
- Polian closed the show by praising Ben Roethlisberger and said the Steelers defense poses 'a very big problem to Colts offense.'
So, yeah. Typical Bill. I thought the callers into the show were a bit silly this evening. One even thanked Bill Polian for moving the Colts to Indianapolis (WTF?). But, that's how it goes. Maybe the radio station is screening people more. Who knows.
Hope you enjoyed our little write-up. And remember, it's perfectly OK to think Bill Polian's pontifications on the radio are totally and completely full of it.
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"We don't have 350lbs D tackles"
HELLO!…Then go out and get some!
by CrazyBlueSniffer on Sep 19, 2011 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
LOL
same thing i was saying like wtf
by NewYork ColtsFan 9212 on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
bill polian and the colts FO are...
starting to remind me of the KGB
by peytonman on Sep 19, 2011 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hmm. Someone doesn't like Bill Polian much.
I suppose the Colts have been withholding press credentials because Stampede Blue isn’t available on dead trees like that IndyStar.com blog is… Somehow I think that Colts management has their email printed so they can read it or something… The Colts do need to wake up and realize that the online media is the future… and realize that the new media is A LOT MORE SKEPTICAL than the old print media.
Oh well…. Going to fridge to get a beer. Jim Caldwell is the best coach ever. Matt Painter is the QB of the future and there are ponies grazing in my side yard.
-- Life is to short to take everything serious. Especially sports blogs.
Isn't Matt Painter the Purdue's BB coach?
If he is our QB of the future we’re trucked.
by coltsfan500 on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Did the positive callers sound suspiciously like Jim Caldwell with a phony accent?
by Joseph* on Sep 19, 2011 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
or for him to have a stable of phony accents?
Sounds like a great episode of Monty Python.
by ActionOxford on Sep 19, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
This just makes me laugh
Caldwell would sound just the same no matter how hard he tried to disguise himself. I can just imagine him thinking it sounds different when it is EXACTLY what we hear each week.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
if it's the same ol' crap and he contiunes to treat the media and fans so poorly
why even talk about the show?
Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB
Bill Polian is stupid
Peyton Manning didnt learn this offense in a week. How in the hell would Collins be able to do that. I dont think Collins will know this offense in 16 weeks. At least Painter knows the offense. Not that it would make any difference.
by SRBradford on Sep 19, 2011 9:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah - so stupid that he's been an NFL GM for decades
And you’re not.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Great point
Hitler ran a country for several years and even took other ones over, he must’ve been a great leader too.
It wasn't his leadership
That was hitler’s problem. It was his ideas that were a tad off… (understatement)
by Kdog@usi on Sep 20, 2011 9:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
No adjustments yet.
Peyton Manning didnt learn this offense in a week. How in the hell would Collins be able to do that. I dont think Collins will know this offense in 16 weeks. At least Painter knows the offense. Not that it would make any difference
This is what’s bugging me. As of yet the coaches are not adjusting much for Collins. Put in a lot of slants, screens, more running and play action off that. Collins has always been a slant, 10 yard out, and screen kinda passer. He throws deep off of play action historically. Hopefully we’ll see the coaching staff be less insistent on their “system” and start putting a gameplan together that plays to Collins strengths.
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by BigBlackRichard on Sep 20, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be thinking outside the box!
And that’s unacceptible with this ball club.
Collins will struggle because of offensive line
Collins will get better as the year goes on but you wont see it in wins. He is adjusting and the young offensive line is learning on the fly. That is a bad combo. It also doesnt help that he has no mobility. It might have been a little different if he had 3-4 months to practice with the offense. The Colts really put him in a bad spot.
I haven't ever felt the need to badmouth Polian..........
But it sure is beginning to look like he may have a case of lying bastarditis.
I believe Luck technically has another year of eligibility after this season
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Sep 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Yes he does have another year of eligibility
I have heard that Luck said he will enter the 2012 draft. But I am not 100% sure about that.
by SRBradford on Sep 19, 2011 10:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes he does have another year of eligibility
I have heard that Luck said he will enter the 2012 draft. But I am not 100% sure about that.
by SRBradford on Sep 19, 2011 10:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Luck is a redshirt junior
So this is his fourth year and would have another year of eligibility. However, he is on pace to graduate this year (which is the reason he came back to begin with) so he will most definitely enter the draft.
When this is put in text
I have to admit it does not put Polian in the best light.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Polian's bizarre answers
… Maybe it is me and my training, but Mr. Polian sounds like experiencing early signs of Alzheimer’s disease. He is very clever and he can cover it and Bob Lamey helped him in doing so… I hope I am wrong but his answer related the draft, offers clues.
Explains the recent drafting and lack of team preparedness
Thanks for clearing that up doc.
by coltsfan500 on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
that was my first thought
by 5.56 InYoFace on Sep 20, 2011 12:09 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
So which stage of Alzheimer's disease
does he have to have I wonder…..for Irsay to cut ties with him?
Re: the show
I agree with pretty much everything Polian said (as your noted version puts it) until he started talking about the draft picks and then went on to talk about the defense.
This season is frustrating, and it will continue to be frustrating. I had cautious optimism going into week 1, but now I have zero expectations of this team and the only thing I am looking forward to is seeing whether the Pats will lose another home playoff game again or not. But if Polian is starting to lose it, or if he is starting to tire of this grind, I hope he isn’t just hanging on to this out of selfishness….when the time comes (which I believe it has for him), I hope he steps away and lets others make the right decisions that will actually improve this team whether Manning is playing or not.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
No update on Manning?
Does Bill remember who Peyton is? Or did he forget that too?
Please get this clown the hell away from this team.
by FatDT on Sep 20, 2011 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Update from the show.
"He’s convalescing from the surgery and that will take a little while yet, and then at some point, the doctors will bring him back and assess his situation," Polian said on his weekly Monday night radio show. "We’re not sure when that will take place. He’s up and around, I can tell you that. But it is surgery, and there is a period of time where it takes its toll on you, and that’s where he’s at right now."
I love how people read BBS reports. When are you going to realize everything BBS’s post is just to Bash Polian and the front office and self promote himself. I agree that it is refreshing to have someone that will call out the front office on mistakes. But if there was a prefect personnel guy running the COLTS or any other organization no one else would have a job.
Praising the play of Bullitt, LOL, Polian IS senile
The technique of CBs is bad? Yes, but the concept, not the execution.
by Ty46 on Sep 20, 2011 3:38 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Can we all chip in...
…and buy the Star a radio for Christmas? I mean, the show is on AM and FM, it’s not like you need a GREAT radio to pick it up. I didn’t know things were quite THAT dire there…
I wonder if he believes his crap !
I turned if off after 10 min. He is either a bald faced liar or totally incompetent or blind or a combination of all of them. Its a total waste of time to listen to that show.
by MrBoJangles46 on Sep 20, 2011 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm surprised he even does a show, as much as he hates the fans.
He’s cryptic and nebulous at best, that’s for sure.
by Ayrshire on Sep 20, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the callers
that called the show are Colts staffers and family members of the staff and all questions are scripted by Irsay ;-)
TTYL,
Big Blue Dawg
by BigBlueDawg on Sep 20, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Amazing that all of the Colts key competitors...
…find those 350 lbs lineman so useful for stopping the run, but the Colts simply don’t need such linemen. Also amazing that the same teams employ really talent punt/kick return people (even front-line starters) to garner great field position, but the Colts get by “just fine” with whoever is the last WR, CB, RB, Safety on the depth chart.
Vince Wilfork can stuff the middle and even intercept passes
He hasn’t seen 350 lbs since grade school. His last name says it all. He “will fork” anything you put in front of him.
"I'm feeling pretty, pretty, pretty good."
Yeah he is a very excellent athlete
But if you watch the Pat’s he is out of element he is still playing good but the reason hoodie switched to a 4-3 was to get a pass rush and they are still not getting a consistent pass rush from their front four. Also their linebackers and secondary are out of position over pursing on running downs because of the switch to 4-3 defense. The only reason why no one in media is pointing this out is Brady is throwing for 500 yards a game. Once someone with a defense that can generate a constant rush for their D-line against the PATS, you will see a bigger deal made of this maybe? The PATS have very simulator problems as the COLTS but Brady and his outstanding O-line are masking this problem. Another 4 weeks of this his O-Line will fatigue and they will not be able to mask their problems either.
Pretty sure everyone is saying the Pats D is being propped up by the offense.
They did have 4 sacks against Miami, and didn’t against Rivers because the OLBs and DEs were checking Gates’ release, then rushing. The ball was out before they had time to get there.
We’ll need to see what happens when they don’t decide to just sit back in coverage, and it probably won’t be this week either.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
Those days are gone...
The highlight of the last decade was when we had Manning, James and Harrison as our offensive core. All 3 were young, and considered among the best at their positions. Our offense hasn’t had that in a while. Neither Reggie nor Addai, imo, is top 5….maybe Dallas is top 5 tight end. Freeney is top 5 and that’s it on defense. We got a higher draft pick last year and got Castonza….that will help a lot and we’ll get a really high pick this year. If both picks end up giving us a top 5 player, we may have another shot at it. If one of those players is Andrew Luck, then we are looking at completely rebuilding.
BOTTOM LINE.....
Polian WAS a great GM and yes he deserves the credit for building this franchise into a respectable competitive brand. However, I would say that the past several years of ego and just plain and simply being a hard headed ass hole set in your ways has cost this team tremendously.
I would go as far to say the Colts have not had a solid draft since 2003. Sure we have had some good picks here and there since 03 but overall I wouldn’t grade any of our drafts from 04’ to now very high. In fact several of them are laughable. I’m not speaking of this years draft because it is too early to tell, but I am pretty confident that Castonzo will end up being a nice pick up.
Everyone’s time come and goes, in my opinion Bill’s has been gone for several years now but he has been living off of Peyton Manning bailing this team out. These problems we have today on defense and special teams are the same problems we have had for several years yet they never get fixed.
Bill wants to turn the attention to the offense sucking as he did last night during his radio show, he wants this entire season to be blamed on the fact that Peyton Manning is hurt and not playing but lets not be foolish here, had Bill fixed this defense over the past SEVERAL years we wouldn’t be where we are today. Sure we wouldn’t set the world on fire but at least we would compete. We can’t even compete. Don’t get too excited about the moderate improvement of defensive play last week, the Steelers will put 50 on the board against this pukid shit wagon defense.
How many Super Bowls would we have won with ANY kind of defense? The only Super Bowl we won was due to the fact that our defense went on a run and played lights out football for 4 games. We haven’t seen that since.
As long as Irsay hangs on to the Polian ass clowns we aren’t going anywhere…..with or without Peyton.
by Blue Report on Sep 20, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I didn't like the guy...
…but I honestly think the change in character of the organization began with Tobin. He jettisoned the guys who accepted a losing culture and brought in hard workers. He drafted Faulk, put Harbaugh at the helm, and took a franchise with a losing culture to the AFC championship game…and almost the Super Bowl.
Bill Polian did a good job of drafting Peyton. LOL!….to be fair, his early drafts were pretty solid. Lately, not so much.
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by BigBlackRichard on Sep 20, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you notice any difference between the crappy Bill Polian drafts from 2007/2010, and the most recent draft? The most recent draft was not by Bill; it was totally Chris’es. How’d he do?
I just don't think it would work out
Bill will never step down completely out of the Colts organization until he is forced out. Bill is a control freak and I guarantee you this draft was not totally Chris Polians. Chris may have laid out the initial plan but I promise you Bill made the final call on the draft. What difference of opinions internally there was with the draft board we will never know.
I think if you make a change they all have to go. I don’t see Bill being forced out and Chris sticking around, that just won’t happen and honestly I’m not sure I would want it to happen. I’m ready for a complete overhaul of the front office with a new concept and vision.
Luck is a RS junior
but that really shouldn’t matter anyway. He is draft eligible.
What?????
I’m getting a little bit tired of listening to the non-sense from good old Bill. If you had sooooo much faith in Painter, then why isn’t he the one who has taken over while Peyton is out? Instead you go out and get a way past his prime Kerry Collins from the scrap heap. That really screams, “We have faith in Painter.” What a joke, the man has been a brilliant GM in the past but I believe those days are past him now. He has been living on the broad shoulders of Peyton Manning for a long time now.
Plus the fact he thinks he is the only one on this earth who knows anything about football. F.Y.I. Bill there is this little thing now called the internet, where a normal person can become very informed on a subject or even an expert over time if they study long enough. Your not a rocket scientist Bill, you just run a football team and lately you have done a very poor job at putting together a championship caliber football team.
Football is not that hard
Polian has tricked a lot of people into believing there is a secret football knowledge that only “football people” have. That’s why people went along with it for so many years when he would tell the world they weren’t seeing what they thought they saw.
I think people are finally realizing that no, their eyes aren’t lying, Bill is. The guy that plays the best, actually does play the best. If one QB goes 3-and-out or turns the ball over every time he is in, and the other moves the ball and scores, there is no way the 1st guy is secretly the better QB.
Mistakes actually are mistakes, and there’s no way to justify a failure by saying the reasoning behind it was good and that we should just accept that bad things happen.
Bill has been full of it for years but people were fine with it because his drafts early on were good and the team was winning. Now the last 4 drafts have been near-complete failures and the team is losing and looks bad doing it. So the people are turning on Uncle Bill. The question is, can Irsay put the bong and the smart phone down long enough to notice what has happened and take appropriate action?
hahaha
if i was andrew luck i would stay in college for another year (just to mess with people)
by NewYork ColtsFan 9212 on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 AM EDT reply actions
Just like Manning,
only to avoid the Colts rather than the Jets.
Or he might do the other Manning and demand a trade.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

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