2011 NFL Preseason: Colts 17 - Bengals 13
by Brad Wells on Sep 2, 2011 10:44 AM EDT
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Well, would you look at that.
THE COLTS WON A PRESEASON GAME!!!
Break out the champagne, the hookers, and the coke. It's time to get crazy, because you know that when the Colts actually win a preseason game, it's something akin to the seventh seal being opened.
In all seriousness, the fourth and final preseason game is pretty much the most useless exhibition game there is. As all of you know, I was (and still am) a big opponent of an 18-game season. I also am one of the schmucks who thinks preseason is a good thing. Yeah, it sucks that people with season tickets have to pay full price for those preseason games, but no one is sticking a gun to the heads of those people are forcing them to buy these season tickets.
But, if the NFL had removed the fourth and final preseason game with the new CBA, I wouldn't have shed a tear.
Despite how utterly useless the game was, I did come away with an overall positive vibe about the team, especially when you tie it to their performance last week against the Green Bay Packers. Some general notes after the jump.
- Right off the bat, Jerry Hughes got a tackle on special teams. Yay.
- I honestly don't understand why AP had a game recap title 'Collins can't spark Colts, underscores QB concerns.' I thought Collins played very well. His starting WRs were Taj Smith, Chris Brooks, and David Gilreath. If any one of these guys makes the 53-man roster, it's a miracle. Yet, despite scrubs for WRs, Collins made a great throw on his first snap of the game to Gilreath for 45 yards. Taylor Mays, who many Colts fans wanting Chris Polian to trade for, got beat deep and had to interfere with Gilreath to breakup the pass. Flag was thrown. It was an excellent throw by Collins. Dude still has a gun for an arm.
- On second-and-goal, Anthony Castonzo got beat one-on-one against the Bengals Michael Johnson.
- On Collins second series, he made a great rifle throw over the middle to Taj Smith for a first down. The play was made on 3rd-and-14.
- Castonzo couldn't block Johnson at all last night. Johnson beat him again on a 3rd-and-10, forcing a fumble from Kerry Collins. Bengals recovered the ball.
- I found it interesting that Jerry Hughes did not start the game. Jamaal Anderson and Tyler Brayton did at DE.
- Colts linebackers are simply dreadful at stopping fullbacks. Doesn't matter who it is. Seriously, if the linebacker can't block up the fullback and stop a running play, that linebacker is a BAD linebacker. Right now, the Colts have great speed and range, but when it comes to taking on blockers, they just aren't physical enough.
- Kevin Thomas and Chris Rucker have improved each preseason game. impressive showing last night from Thomas (9 tackles, 1 INT).
- Against scrub o-linemen, Jerry Hughes got a sack. Yay.
- Taj Smith made great plays all night.
- Dan Orlovsky, just like Tom Brandstater last year, has outplayed Curtis Painter. Orlovsky played well last night, going 10-18 for 178 yards and 1 TD. If the Colts keep Curtis Painter, its either a pride move by the Polians, or it's a move to placate Peyton Manning. Pinter is one of Peyton's best friends on the team.
I'll have my final guess at the 53-man roster later today. For now, comment away on the final preseason game of 2011 for the Indianapolis Colts.
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Brayton and Anderson started
To show if they could earn a roster spot. I think Anderson played much better than Brayton, who, in my opinion, will get cut.
Hughes played a very good game. Had a “sack” in a pursuit (pushed the QB out of bounds), and had several pressures and hits against Gradkowski. He was the best DE on the team last night.
Eric foster didn’t played at all. That tells me he made the team. So did D. Caldwell, IMO.
A couple things...
Branstater and Orlovsky didn’t outplay Painter in the Colts offensive scheme. They may have freelanced better, but they didn’t perform in the Colts offense any better than him. I mean, if you think about it Brandstater and Orlovsky both just threw deep balls to fast guys (Brandon James and Taj Smith, respectively) but did very little otherwise. Painter played like a Colts QB.
Tough cuts along the Dline, but I think Brayton and Anderson got the start b/c they’re trying to have “run DEs” in early and then put in the pass rushers later for passing situations. That said, it’d be nice if we had some DEs that could do both at a high level consistantly.
'Brandstater and Orlovsky didn’t outplay Painter in the Colts offensive scheme'
Yes, they did.
Come on.
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This is nonsense
It’s the same BS Polian pulls out when he tells us what we see wasn’t what we really saw. Like there’s some secret knowledge that “football people” have. Either you perform, or you don’t.
I have no doubt Painter knows the Colts offensive system better than Orlovsky. He’s had 2 years vs a few weeks in the system. But what good is that knowledge if you can’t execute on the field when it matters?
"It’s the same BS Polian pulls out when he tells us what we see wasn’t what we really saw."
Love this line.
by taipei_coltsfan on Sep 2, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it's the same "BS" b/c it's true
Polian is a better judge of football accumen than anyone on the board. Call me an apologist, but they have expectations out of the players and it’s not all based on how they perform in preseason games.
That was my point here.
Apologist.
Said jokingly, of course.
I tend to agree with you. I tend to take Bill/Chris Polian’s opinions and statements over pretty much anyone on this board. But for all that, sometimes they say things that contradict the eye test.
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RB's
I know I’m stating the obvious here but Donald Brown was clearly the worst RB on the field last night. If Evans or Spann don’t make the team, I’ll be pissed.
I agree.
I got the sense that they put him in, he was awful (3 for -1 yds), then after he was pulled the RB play picked up. Carter, Evans, and Spann all did better. This may be it for Brown.
by ActionOxford on Sep 2, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
In all fairness...
Donald Brown was being hit almost immediately after he received the handoff, hard to blame him for his poor stats.
That being said, I really liked Darren Evans. He has EXTREMELY quick feet for a RB with his size and power. He reminds me of a much, much more talented version of Mike Hart.
As for Castonzo, yes he gave up too much edge rush on the 2 mentioned plays (2 sacks, fumble), but Kerry Collins’ pocket awareness was just horrendous on those 2 plays. Both times, Collins got to the top of his drop, and failed to step up into the pocket. Trust me when I say that if Peyton Manning was under center, neither play would’ve resulted in a sack.
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by kmbryant09 on Sep 2, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Please
Brown ran behind the same OL as Carter, Evans, and Spann. There were several plays where Brown should’ve made a guy miss or should’ve powered forward, but instead the tackler got one hand on him and he went down. He is weak and has no vision.
by FatDT on Sep 2, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He did not ran against the same D
that tackle that Pat Sims had on him would be a loss even if it was Jim Brown running
Brown had 3 carries
Once he was hit literally as he received the handoff.
Once, Saturday was driven back 5 yards and Saturday nearly tackled Brown.
Once, Brown ran for 2 yards behind no holes.
How are you bashing his play against the Bengals??
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carries aren't the only way to touch the ball
His catching out of the backfield was bad. And keep making excuses for why he sucks as a running back. See how that works out for you.
LOL you have this all wrong
I don’t think Donald Brown is a good RB. At this point, I’d rather have Joseph Addai, Delone Carter, Darren Evans, and Javarris James take meaningful handoffs.
But saying that Donald Brown played poorly against the Bengals is flat-out stupidity. You even made the argument that he ran behind the same OL as Carter, Evans, and Spann – which again is wrong. He was also running against a different defense.
And as I clearly pointed out, how can you blame a running back for the 3 carries that Brown received? Jim Brown wouldn’t have gotten yards on 2 of the 3 carries.
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You appeared to be sticking up for Brown, which is just insane. But you weren’t, so my bad.
I contend Brown played badly when he was in. It wasn’t very long, no. Looking at stats he apparently only got 4 touches total (3 run, 1 reception). So if he was bad on one run and his single reception (that was the play I referred to where he was easily single-tackles when a 1st round RB should juke or truck him), and had no chance on the other two, wouldn’t you call that a bad performance? Especially in light of his past efforts? Plenty of evidence that those two bad plays are the norm for him, not the exception.
Just don't think you can judge a player on 4 touches
Especially when each of his 3 runs gave him no chance to gain significant yards. Not sure how you can call his 3rd run a poor job by D.B. – it was a pretty typical, “nowhere to go, lower your head into the line, pick up 2 or 3 yards”. And we’ve already established that he had no chance on the other 2 runs.
Yes, he had a chance to make a defender miss on his one reception. So if you want to base a player’s performance on that single play, sure, he was disappointing. But you can’t assess a player based on one specific play. Coaches have 2 weeks of training camp, endless hours of film sessions, 4 preseason games, and countless hours of practice to base their decisions off of. Most fans base their decisions on a handful of plays, or sometimes even a few box scores.
I agree, that Brown has been (extremely) disappointing so far, especially given his high draft selection. But I do believe he stands to gain the most from a solid OLine. Guys like Addai/Hart/Rhodes/Evans are the types of running backs that can make a little something out of nothing, but can’t really turn an opening into a large gain. Brown is quite the opposite. He clearly can’t make something out of nothing, but when given adequate running lanes, he may be the best runner on our roster (see Giants & Jaguars games last year). All that being said, I don’t know if we’ll ever have a solid run-blocking OLine, so we may never know.
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I'm judging him based on 4 touches and ALL THE PREVIOUS ONES
I did not suddenly come to the conclusion that Brown is horrible based on this game. I just saw more of the tentative bullshit that we’ve seen for 2 years.
I don’t agree that none of the other backs can’t do anything in the open field. Addai does look bad running in the open. His arms and legs flop around all over the place. But I also remember some plays from his 1st and 2nd seasons, especially in 2007 vs. the Pats where he bob-and-weaved on a short pass for a massive gain (can’t remember if it was a TD or not now). Carter made plenty of plays in space in college. Evans is an unknown.
Any NFL-level RB can look good with a huge hole to run through. But how likely is that to happen consistently? Not very. It makes more sense to go with guys that can do something in traffic. Again, any RB could’ve done what Brown did on those few “big” carries last year.
I also don’t agree that Brown has great speed. He can run away from the front 7, but most RBs should be able to do that. I’ve never seen him blow past the secondary. He gets caught from behind.
I remember the Addai play
but that was 4 years ago. None of our RB’s are “open-field” RB’s. Donald Brown is. He has some talent, see what he did at UCONN.
I agree on your long-term evaluation of Brown – that he has not been good over his first 2 seasons, but I just find it ridiculous to hate on a player based on 4 plays, especially the situation that Brown was in for those 4 plays. I don’t care if it’s Donald Brown, Jerry Hughes, or Peyton Manning – you can’t accurately judge a player with 4 plays, 3 of which were completely out of his control.
It’s fair to say that Brown had a chance to make a guy miss in the open field, but didn’t. It’s unfair to say he had multiple chances to push forward, break tackles, make guys miss. Or that he ran behind the same OLine as the other RB’s.
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You’re keying in on a very minor point and I don’t understand it. Fine, we differ on his play last night. I call it bad, you call it inconclusive. But it isn’t conclusive, because they were either neutral (the plays where nobody had a chance) or they were bad (which aligns with what we’ve seen of him so far). So when I see more of the same from him (no production), I’m going to think “Same old Donald Brown, can’t do anything”. I’m not going to say “well if he had more opportunities he might’ve done something”.
Yeah it was 4 years ago but since then we haven’t had an OL that can give Addai the same opportunities. If we have an OL that can make Brown look good, we’ll have an OL that will make Addai, Carter, Evans, Spann, James, or anybody else look good.
His slight upside as a semi-fast RB when the stars align perfectly don’t in any way outweigh all the deficiencies in his game.
by FatDT on Sep 2, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
'when the stars align perfectly'
that is so unbelievably accurate.
Fair enough...
But I think you’re missing my point. Different RB’s have different styles. Some are small, lightning quick RB’s (J. Charles, C. Johnson), some are deceptively quick and shifty (J. Addai), some are big, pile-moving RB’s (B. Jacobs). All of which have different levels of success running behind different types of OLines.
A player like Joseph Addai is perfect behind a poor run-blocking offensive line. He’s great at making a small gain out of nothing, or even a medium gain out of something small. He doesn’t need an overpowering OLine to create huge holes for him to run through.
A player like Donald Brown is very different. It’s certainly a knock on Brown that he hasn’t found a way to make something out of nothing after running behind our shitty OLine for 2 seasons now. But give D. Brown space, and he’ll take advantage of it. Moreso than Joseph Addai, moreso than D. Carter, moreso than Darren Evans of Mike Hart or Dominic Rhodes. Now I understand that we haven’t had an overpowering OLine, which invalidates what I’m trying to say. But, as we are clearly trying to infuse our OLine with talent, D. Brown may stand to gain the most from it.
As it stands now, yes I want J. Addai and D. Carter getting carries behind our mediocre offensive line. But if we are going to continue to emphasize the run and offensive line, I think Brown can be very valuable in a year or two, running behind a much improved OLine.
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"Being hit"
is equivalent to running into my 2 year-old daughter for Donald Brown. He’d be awesome in flag football.
by fearfreeney on Sep 2, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brown's talents
are a dime a dozen. Hardly worth a first round draft pick.
Absolutely
Brown ran behind the same OL as the other players and just didn’t do as well. Because he’s not as good. Carter and Evans and probably Spann and James all run harder and stronger and have better vision. Brown is good if there’s a 10 foot hole to run through and no tacklers anywhere near him. That’s it. He should be cut, but he won’t be.
Come on now
Compiling better numbers against a bevy of players that won’t be on any NFL roster at 4:01 PM tomorrow does not count as “outplaying”, and to suggest otherwise is intellectually dishonest.
It's hard to know
what to expect in the regular season, not just with Peyton, but the team as a whole. We really haven’t seen our best guys on the field too much. Collins didn’t even get a chance to play with the first string receivers. Defense still can’t seem to put three good plays in a row together, so they tend to stay on the field, and we still can’t run the ball. Same problems. But, as I said, we’re playing with back-ups, so who knows how the first string will perform when it counts? Hopefully, much better.
Also, with our offensive line...
I’m afraid that Peyton is going to be hurrying throws again, unless they can get it together.
Brown
Should be cut, Carter and Evans should sit behind Addai, Carter could even surpass him.
Carter is the RB of the future
I was excited when the Colts took him. I think he is a MJD/Ray Rice type of back that will really help the offense. I like Addai and expect him to start this year, but next year it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Carter was taking 60% of the carries.
Javarris James?
Did he play last night? I didnt see him at all. I wonder if that means they’ll keep him, at least for ST.
I didn't see him either
It either means he’s secured his spot (like Painter), or he’s guaranteed to be cut (or maybe he was hurt?)
by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Sep 2, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Orkavski outplayed Painter?!?!
Are you being serious? What about week 2 when Orlavsky was willing to throw to anyone not in blue and white? He has a good deep ball and that’s it. He played against a bunch of soon to be cut players from a defense that could be average if you’re feeling generous. The guy had awful pocket presence (running out of the back of the endzone on more than one occasion) and makes terrible reads. He just flings it and gives his receiver a chance. Painter played a solid game against the starters of a defense that is top 3 in the league.
Also, Collins looked bad. The throw to Goliath would have been TD had orlavsky thrown it. It was underthrown by 5yda and PI shouldn’t have been possible. He also had 2 tipped passes and an easy INT that was dropped. Painter will be a very sorry looking backup, but it appears Collins needs more time.
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Dirty's Down & Dirty
1) Jerry Hughes: Let’s preface this with how Dirty has been patient with the development of Jerry Hughes. And let’s also mention that Hughes did get a sack and did have a special teams tackle. However, two plays close together stuck out to Dirty last night, and since Dirty erased the game recording already he can’t say exactly when in the second half these two plays took place (thinking 3rd quarter). Regardless, play one is Hughes chasing Cincy QB to the defense’s left. Either designed or not, the QB scrambles outside the tackle box. Hughes is in the precarious position a DE often finds himself when opposing a naked bootleg: he has to choose between pursuing the QB or staying near the LOS to protect against the dump off to the RB/TE in the flat rolling with the QB. The QB threw easily over Hughes to the receiver. What stuck out to Dirty? Hughes didn’t bother to put his arms up to block the pass.
The second play? Not much longer after that and likely during the same drive Hughes has a clear shot on the QB. It turns out to be a screen. The QB dumps the ball off to the RB over Hughes head and Jerry gives the QB a nice pop with his shoulder. What stuck out to Dirty? Hughes didn’t bother to put his arms up to block the pass.
This is basic defensive football, not anything fancy. Dirty knows for a fact that High School coaches on up teach the defensive lineman to put their arms up to potentially bat down a ball or, at the very least, disrupt the pass so it is not so easy. Hughes didn’t bother to put his hands up either time.
Based on those plays, Hughes’ consistent lack of production on special teams, and Hughes’ on the field body language, Dirty is convinced that something is definitely up. Hughes may be an unmotivated person. Hughes may be having personal issues. Hughes may be overwhelmed. At this point Dirty has no confidence Hughes will ever develop into a suitable pass rushing replacement for Freeney or Mathis. That kind of play is nothing except LAZY and unacceptable.
2) Cornerbacks: Backup cornerbacks Rucker and Thomas look promising. They also played some extremely odd kind of defensive coverage scheme called, “press coverage” which disrupts the WR at the line of scrimmage causing timing routes to be off and forcing the QB to be more accurate with his throws because his DB isn’t playing zone one county over. Crazy, huh!?!?
3) Roster: Dirty thinks Anderson makes the team. Dirty also agrees very much with Bob Kravitz’s 53 roster guess (only a couple of variations). This is a very unnerving revelation, but hopefully it’s just that obvious.
That is all for now. All that ranting about Jerry Hughes has left Dirty unable to remember much else worth mentioning.
-Dirty
Do you need to really need to refer to yourself in the third person?
It’s ok just to state your opinion. You may not look like an over hyped under educated wannabe, but maybe someone will take you a little more seriously.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 2, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He's related to 'Jimmy' from Seinfeld.
You know……Jimmy’s feeling good today’, ‘Jimmy likes Elaine’,…..’Jimmy’s goin’ down’…
Oh, and my favorite,...
‘Jimmy and misunderstandings….kinda clash’
More Dirty's Wordies
4) Toudouze is gone. Richard played awful and is gone. Pollack stays because he’s the heir apparent at center. Lineman that make the cut (9):
Castonzo
Reitz
Saturday
Diem
Johann Sebastian Linkenbach
Pollack
McClendon
Ijalana
Devan
I don't think Castonzo was beat
The QB has to step up, Castonzo pushed Johnson wide and deep enough.
The sacks allowed by Linkenbach and Castonzo the last two games are not sacks with Peyton.
Castanzo was beat every time I looked in his direction in the first half last night.
He just couldn’t handle Johnson. He has looked solid the rest of the preseason. I don’t know what to make of it. To lay it all on the QB is wrong. I’m not saying Manning doesn’t negate some of it, but it was just a really bad night for him.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 2, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Listen people..
Orlovsky did outperform Painter as any QB playing in this league would prolly do.. Painter is only good to lose games..
"We just sucked." - Tom Brady 9/19/2010
Saying it doesn't make it so
Back it up with something and don’t give us “Orlavsky has x touchdowns, y yards, and was z for a in completions last night.” Last night, once again, was against 9 or 10 defenders who won’t make anyone’s rosters. Painter played very well against a Packers team that destroyed PM in the preseason the year before. Painter not playing last night is a sign he won’t be cut. Collins playing poorly and not managing the pocket last night is the other sign.
Read this: http://www.stampedeblue.com/2011/9/2/2400787/painter-will-not-be-cut
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And Orlovsky threw to a bunch of recievers that won't be on the team so they are even
by C.Settles on Sep 2, 2011 4:45 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Not even close
Orlavsky threw with the same receivers he worked with in practice every day. Painter also had a lot of work with those same receivers in the game (i.e. Touchdown pass on back-shoulder fade route to Chris Brooks.) Even when they worked with the same WR Painter played a lot better. Orlavsky even ran out of the back of the endzone again.
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Not saying Orlovsky is better
but yes it is very close brooks, Taj and gilreath all are guaranteed spot on the team they are all fighting for probably 1 spot and Painter had the luxury of working with the 1 string offense in practice and in the last game which Orlovsky never got he also had 1 string ST last week at least in the beginning.
Just because he worked with them in practice 3-4 times a week or whatever they practice doesnt mean they are any good or reliable if they were they wouldnt be 3rd string
Also the Oline wasnt as solid as it was last week
Again not saying Orlovsky is better but giving them both time with the 1st string wouldnt been more conclusive, him putting up numbers with those guys is an indication that hes not complete shit at least
They played with who they worked with
Painter has generally been worse when he works with 2nd team and then plays with the first team in the game. I would give that to you if it was because Orlavsky’s receivers were dropping balls or making bad mistakes, but what I’ve seen is Orlavsky overthrowing receivers or throwing behind them on timing routes almost constantly. Painter has not thrown perfectly, but he has had issues with his receivers having a case of the drops.
Also Painter was constantly under pressure from the right side in the packers game and still made good decisions. Orlavsky’s pressure many times was a result of mismanagement of the pocket (kinda like when he ran out of the back of the endzone those 2 times.)
Painter is finally starting to mature and it’s almost as if people like BBS want him brushed under the rug before he truly proves himself and makes their previous analysis look bad.
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In the Packers game Painter has the luxury
to trust his receivers are going to do their job since they were starters, again i think they should have let Orlovsky have a go with the 1st string and see if it made a difference.
Besides the packers game Painter was throwing pretty bad too especially too far or just into the dirt
And against the Bengals there were a lot of dropped balls that shouldve been easily caught especial by Taj smith and Brooks. I think Orlovsky wouldve had a couple TDs if it werent for that.
Painter did looks better in the second and third quarter but i think he needs to prove he can play that well consistently
Lastly ive been thinking about it and why didnt Painter practice during the lockout with the receivers if everyone knew Manning had surgery did Painter step up and lead them or did he just sit on his ass and wait to see if Manning healed? ( i dont remember anyone mentioning him during the lockout so im curious about this) He couldve taken that time to improve since he already knows the plays and it wouldve given hima lot of credit with the coaches to step up without being told to when Manning was hurt
Who said Painter wasn't there?
I had heard that he was at Peyton’s private sessions.
I also like that you said this “Painter did looks better in the second and third quarter but i think he needs to prove he can play that well consistently.” I don’t think he has been given adequate time. He had last preseason and this one really. He is finally starting to do what players and coaches are saying he would.
He did throw some balls in the dirt, but even PM does that once or twice a game. I missed the overthrows. He didn’t get close to a pick and protected the football well. Even on the fumble he was making a very good effort to pull the ball in and protect it, unlike the Jets game that ruined the perfect season.
I see a ton of improvement in this kid and I feel that people are calling for Orlavsky and Collins because they despise Painter so much from the past. Because of this fans are overlooking serious flaws in both of those players. It’s a classic case of be careful what you wish for.
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The Problem with Preseason Game 4
Anyone else find it suspect to evaluate the success of the players on the team in preseason game 4? I mean, I can appreciate the effort given – and I’m thinking specifically of Lefeged and Evans here – but not necessarily the success the player experienced.
I’m echoing Mark Olson here a bit – just because Orlovsky was serviceable against the Bengals future practice squad rejects doesn’t give me any clue as to whether he’d be better than Painter (or McAfee for that matter) at QB during the regular season. (Actually, McAfee would probably be harder to sack with all that canal scum on him…)
Don Brown looked horrible. Actually, Don looked lost out there. Our Run D looked horrible. As far as that goes, I tend to weight horrible a bit higher in Game 4 than I would awesomeness. I know that for most of those players out there that this game is their final audition; their last ditch effort at a job. But I don’t think that effort in that game will make a good player look like crap.
Let’s face it, Don Brown was out there to be evaluated. His job is on the line. If 2nd and 3rd stringers make him look bad…well…I like Don Brown so I won’t say it. Instead, I’ll feed the beast and say it’s probably Bill Polian’s or Curtis Painter’s fault (or Belichick, or Kravitz, or insert your favorite whipping boy here.)
Shouldn’t the worst player on the team be by default (or be at least theoretically) better than the best player on the practice squad? Hughes SHOULD look good in Game 4 and so should Brown.
Speaking of Lefeged, did anyone else think that he went a little Bobzilla in the first half? It seemed our linebackers did a good job of letting him be a principal element of just about every stop in the first half – much like Bob got to do before he became the charter member of the Colts Medicare Squad.
lol
thomas was horrible
9 tackles? yeah right. that didnt happen.
the dude whiffed probably 9 times
Lol.
I honestly don’t understand why AP had a game recap title ‘Collins can’t spark Colts, underscores QB concerns.’
That’s because the AP just read the stat lines and I don’t blame them lol. It’s the fourth pre-season game. Anyway, Collins may look like a big goofball out there, but he definitely made some solid throws. He has confidence to make these throws (deep ball to Gilreath), unlike Painter and Orlovksy. As for Danny-O, he looked decent, but not good enough to warrant a spot over Painter, if Painter even gets a spot.
I’m very optimistic about this season. I love how the Colts have been written off by pretty much every analyst over at NFL.com. The Colts got one vote to win the division lmao. Looks like the Texans are here to take over, boys!
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I think it's because Collins was really shaky
He threw a ball that easily should have been a pick that got dropped. He couldn’t get the ball over the D-line and kept having the balls tipped. He had 1 1st down on a pass interference that should have been a touchdown had he not thrown it behind his receiver. He also fumbled in a play where 1-his windup was way too big 2-he should have moved up in the pocket as it was clear that the DE was trying to come over the top of Castonzo. Read the drive chart, Collins was awful versus the even more awful Bengals D. He couldn’t get a first down without a penalty which is perfectly described as ’can’t spark’. I watched the Collins start twice and thought he looked awful. Read the drive chart here: link.
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