So, Where Was This Fake Injury 'Outrage' When Everyone And Their Mother Did It To Stop The Colts?
We all remember the 2003 regular season game between the Colts and the Patriots at the old RCA Dome. Patriots linebacker Willie McGinest practically faked his own death when he flopped down on the field with an apparent 'injury' in order to slow down the Colts no-huddle offense, which was giving the Pats defense fits that day.
Fast forward to as recently as 2009, when then-49ers coach Mike Singletary sent signals to his defense players to flop down. Even more recent: Last year, when our own Matt Grecco noticed this during the Colts v. Jaguars game at Lucas Oil Stadium late in the season:
Stop me if you've heard this one before: Team fakes injury to slow down Colts no-huddle offense.
Most of the time, it's pure speculation, or completely done by the player, so you can't say with certainty that he was faking. However, on Sunday you can thank the Jacksonville coaching staff for showing everyone inside Lucas Oil Stadium plain as day that they wanted a player to go down to the ground with an "injury".
The Colts ran their first 6 plays at blazing speed, with no substitutions, covering 26 yards on multiple quick strike plays. Then Donald Brown goes up the middle, through the defense for a 47 yard blast, getting down to the Jacksonville 7. Peyton Manning had the Colts racing down the field, trying to keep the up-tempo pace going. The Colts are close to the line, when the whistle blows. Jaguars injury.
Teams faking injuries to slow down Indy's no-huddle is no new thing. Yeah, it's dirty. It's cheating. It's demeaning to the game of football. But, as long as their is no consequence for doing it, dirty coaches will employ it as a tactic.
Faking injuries is certainly nothing new. Hell, Bill Belichick told his players to fake injuries way back in 1995 when he coached the Browns.
So, why all the outrage now?
What I personally find fascinating is the utter gall of New England Patriots players (like Tom Brady) complaining about the San Diego Chargers apparently 'faking' injuries on Sunday to slow down the Pats no-huddle. If you watched the game, as I did, it was obvious Chargers defensive players were flopping to slow down New England's offense. Tom Brady was clearly annoyed by it on the field, and even walked over to a few Chargers players to check to see if they were actually hurt.
The next day, on Monday Night Fotball, the the New York Giants defense put on a pathetic display by faking injuries against Sam Bradford and the St. Louis Rams. After seeing this, the whole media community seemed OUTRAGED these tactics were being usedg.
Where were these people in 2003? Or 2009? Or last friggin year?
Joel Thorman at Arrowhead Pride thinks the outrage is a result of more media coverage now than in previous years. Personally, I don't buy that. The league is more pass-happy than ever, and lots of teams (Patriots, Steelers, Rams) have copied the Colts offensive system built around the QB checking plays at the line of scrimmage. Back when just the Colts were getting screwed, no one cared. Now that multiple teams are getting screwed, it's an affront to the integrity of the league, or some such nonsense.
Listen, if it is dirty now, it was dirty back then. And if the league wants to do something about it, they should fine teams and coaches who encourage it. If that doesn't work, start suspending coaches. Not players. Coaches.
You'll see this kind of activity stop very quickly when a coach is faced with the prospect of missing money.
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Fines, penalties, and suspensions will never happen
It’s not realistic because the NFL will never take the chance that a ref might assume a real injury is just a player faking it.
What they can do though is require that the injured player sit out a certain number of plays. It would be a step in the right direction.
by FatDT on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
One more instance
A Saints player, defensive tackle Hargrove goes down after Manning had attempted 6 consecutive passes in the SB down 17-24 going no huddle for the most part.
The next play is the Tracy Porter pick six. No one talks about what happened before the pick six.
Then Hargrove comes back and spears Addai on the ground to get a 15 yard penalty the next drive.
Only way to somewhat stop this is to force a team to either take a timeout or have the player miss an entire series (till the next first down or punt happens, whichever is earlier). That will reduce it thought not stop it altogether.
I don't think that is unreasonable
If it causes a time clock stoppage, then the player should have to sit and recover until the next possession.
3 downs or change of possession
Yeah, 3 downs or change of possession, whichever happens first.
So, if a player has an injury on 1st down, he will have to sit out 2nd down and 3rd down plus another 1st down before he can come back on 2nd down on the next series of downs.
That will definitely be a good deterrent, IMO. The alternative is that the team HAS to spend a timeout. If the injury is legit, 3 downs is a typical number of downs before the player comes back anyways.
I like next possession better
3 downs is not necessarily enough of a deterrent IMO.
Brady never complained about it
And teams do it to the Patriots. As Mike Peirera reported, there’s no rule against it. It’s something coaches are supposed to discourage, but currently it’s allowed unless a player admits he faked an injury on purpose. No chance of that happening.
Keep the faith!
willie mcginest
thats all you need to know. Your boy was cheap for doing it
by metal_militia on Sep 21, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Colts could have kept him off the field, but didn't
He was sidelined until they called a time out, which they did after trying to run Edgerrin James twice for only a yard. That was when McGinest came back in – for the last play of the game.
Keep the faith!
Maybe Dungy shouldn't have kicked off to Bethel Johnson - twice -
and the Colts wouldn’t even have been in that position in the first place, but yeah, go ahead and blame that one play
Keep the faith!
to deny that McGinest didn't play dead
is ignorance. He clearly faked it and everyone saw it. The announcers saw it, the fans saw it, and that smirk on his face tells you all you need to know. It was clear as day
by metal_militia on Sep 21, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention
he did a piss poor job of acting on that injury. he slowed down the momentum of the Colts offense big time, helped an already gassed pats D get a breather when Manning could have caught them off guard.
by metal_militia on Sep 21, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, he's the first player in history to do it. Sure.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
I think if you go down with an injury (fake or real) that you can’t return until the next time that the opposing team has the ball. I think they can just come back in on the next play or set of downs. This will keep players from being fined and probably from faking injuries.
If the Colts have the ball at midfield and they are marching along and someone on the opposing team goes down, and let’s say they are faking it. That player couldn’t come back in until the next Colts possession…which could be awhile.
And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
This story is definitely getting wheels
Cuz of the 4 letter network and mainstream sports media.
Everytime i have seen the fake injury story on the 4 letter network I ask where was thr outrage in 2003 when McGinest did it agaisnt he Colts…and ALL th3 other times it has happened since then.
When it happens in the 4 letter networks backyard, well THATS when it becomes important…typical biased media
Go Blue!
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by dezznutz1001 on Sep 21, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
yep
I think players that are injured, should actually be forced to miss the rest of the current drive and the drive after. Realistically, if you are injured (i.e. a cramp is not an injury…) enough to fall on the field, then you should need to be checked out. Notice that during times when teams would be penalized (i.e. lose timeouts) in the final two minutes of the half and game, players don’t just go down with injury, you will see many hopping off with ankle problems/etc. I don’t think one series is enough as they could be on a goal line stand and may not have much more to the drive. I think it also makes it more obvious if a team were sending players off the bench to feign injury.
On a side note, I forgot how it was to feel good about Jim Caldwell. Good feelings in 2009, until he was outcoached in the Superbowl.
by coltsfanbeforemanning on Sep 21, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
Great article...
was vomiting last night while seeing it on TV…“oh the humanity”. I generally like Brady (don’t shoot me)…but him standing over the injured charger made me pissed…
What really has gotten the media geared up is the two Giants who looked like dead fish out there…that was totally pathetic…for a moment I thought I was watching soccer!
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
I guess the hard part would be trying to prove that someone was actually faking
if you could prove it, throw down the hammer.
And I’ve just gotta say, Tom Brady is a great great QB, but he bitches more than other QB during a game. He’s like the Ron Starks of professional football.
Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB
Brady did not say a word
..oh wait, he dared to look.
by frogfromthemud on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The difference is that it is now affecting the Patsys…
… and everyone knows 2 things about Tom Brady:
1) The NFL has their collective lips glued to Brady’s ass and…
2) Brady is totally p**** whipped by his wife.
If this had been a problem for the Patsys years ago, the outrage would have been present years ago.
The Patsys (and the Steelers, too) have the NFL in their hip pockets in most matters. That’s why the league makes certain rules they make and why those teams seem to get the close (and not so close) calls in games.
There’s no big mystery here as far as I can see…
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I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
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Dedicated to the "Pride of the Steelers"
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Like when Palmer
got his knee blown out by the Steelers in ’05. There was no Palmer rule but when the same happened to Brady….
I obstain from sex during the season just so I can have Blue & White Balls. That's what I call dedication....Did I mention I'm not right? PSN: HALF--DEAD
Good point Half Dead
What do I really have left in life but this place? It ain't much of a home, but it's all I got. Well, g******it. I'll be damned if I let some foreign, graffiti writin', soul suckin', son of a bitch in an oversized cowboy hat and boots take my friend's souls and sh** 'em down the visitors toilet!
What I personally find fascinating is the utter gall of New England Patriots players (like Tom Brady) complaining about the San Diego Chargers apparently ‘faking’ injuries on Sunday to slow down the Pats no-huddle
Except Brady did not complain. Whatever.
by frogfromthemud on Sep 21, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's simple...
it’s a big deal because it’s affecting the darlings of the NFL: the New England Pats.
I dare you to not look around the sports media world and see one bad thing mentioned, (aside from some scant mentioning of some accusations brought against their storied franchise a few years back) about the Pats, their players, or their tactics. You may see a line here or there about the proverbial “window”, too… but then it’s quickly brushed aside.
Every sports news show I watch, every pregame show, every sports web site (SI.com mainly), seems to have nothing but words of praise and a severe case of some disease that makes them want to take Brady and shove him as far up their keisters as possible. While, even when we were doing well, it was nothing but comparisons and an almost curiosity towards how and or why we are even in the picture year after year. (Granted, this year has given every sports pundit carte blanch to just rip us to shreds)
It’s because of the Pats… plain and simple.
@frogfromthemud: he may not have been vocal, but standing over a downed man, injured or not, showing no signs of concern, shows a lot of gall when his team has benefited from the same act he is skeptical of in the past. His actions and body-language in doing so are physical embodiments of somebody with an immensely “entitled” attitude and short memory of their own actions of the past.
Brady’s a spoiled brat… eff the Pats.
by Quixotegut on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Bill Polian, Colts, 2004, rule changes. Rings a bell?
by frogfromthemud on Sep 21, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pointless...
when the Pats are major beneficiaries of said rule change.
Because...
“You wanna to change the rules. Then change them. We play and we win”
by frogfromthemud on Sep 21, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Not rule changes...
just a request to actually, you know, enforce the rule that was already in place.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Sep 21, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel your pain
Do you want to speak about it?:)
by frogfromthemud on Sep 21, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
What up dude ?
Man… you’ve got a complex with the New England Patriots and Tom Brady. Yikes !
Me.. I enjoy watching Brady throw the football all over the place – the guy’s an incredible QB. Even if you don’t cheer for the Pats, you ought to be able to marvel at the way this man can put points on the board. Brady’s good and you don’t like it, we get it but, your criticisms are petty and trite. Lighten up and enjoy a master at work – one of these years he’ll be gone.
by profootballfan on Sep 21, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I like Brady...
but the point Quixotegut made is spot on! The way he was standing over the player was very much like that of a spoiled brat. A total sense of entitlement. Not recognizing that is very closed minded.
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
Brady was asked about fake injuries. Here is his answer. not that you care or would change your opinion
"It’s not something that’s bothersome," said Brady of phantom injuries.
"The hard part is that someone may really be hurt. If a guy goes down, that’s serious. If that’s happening [faked injuries], I have no idea. Coach Belichick never coached us that way. You just have to play through it [as an offense] it with mental toughness,"
by frogfromthemud on Sep 21, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Because They never lie especially to the media........
fans and world who have already branded them as cheaters
Really ?
So you can tell just by looking at a guy in a helmet, for four seconds on a T.V. screen, that he’s full of entitlement and a spoiled brat. Man you are f’ing good.
You can be honest with us – you don’t like Brady now and never have and Quixotegut’s point was: I hate the Patriots no matter how many games they win and I hate Tom Brady no matter how well he throws the ball. That my friend is a true closed mind.
by profootballfan on Sep 21, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I am that f'ing good...
And with your head so far up Bradys ass I’m surprised his lips don’t move when you talk!
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
TR
Remain calm… your manhood is not being questioned here.
What other clairvoyant insights might you offer us mere mortals on others around the league ?? ..or is Tom Brady your only fascination ?
by profootballfan on Sep 21, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
live the guys alone:)
Colts fans living a miserable season. At least stopped the self loathing for a second and found another channel to let out their frustrations.
by frogfromthemud on Sep 21, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Again...
you can see the speculation in his body language. Hands on his hips (or were his arms crossed at his chest… either way…), head askew to the side… it’s basically screaming “really man?”
Why in gods name should he have been over there to begin with? Did Brady lay him out? Doubtful as he’s a puss. He went to check. His presence at the downed man in incriminating enough.
you can see the speculation in his body language. Hands on his hips (or were his arms crossed at his chest… either way…),,
Sorry to disappoint you, non of the above.:) (In case you were interested in: his left hand was on his left side and his right hand was on his right.
that’s not correct either:)head askew to the side…
Brady just walked over and watched.
So if your speculation was based on this crossed arms, hands on hips or askew had, then speculate again;)
by frogfromthemud on Sep 21, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I admit defeat...
but only about his body language…
I still don’t think he should have been over there at all. Nobody else from the Pats is there. It shows a lot of gall.
I never remember Manning “checking” on a downed player for false injuries.
Again:
that is only your hypothesis. And body language just confuted you:) Plus watch the tape: about 2 plays later another Colts player was down, and 1 of the 3 trainers attended him stood above the injured player in the exact same position as Brady here. Brady was prying, but nothing judgmental in his body language. Trust me, I had to study a lot of psychology for my profession;) Or don’t trust me. Then we just agree to disagree :)
by frogfromthemud on Sep 22, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely...
I will hate them, unabashedly, for as long as I desire.
They are cheaters who are undeserving of their accolades.
It’s my opinion, I’m entitled to it, as you are entitled to yours.
= a closed mind
I agree… hate the Patriots all you like – sure you’re entitled. I was merely responding to the closed mind comment directed at me by TR. Your distain for N.E. is a much better example of a closed mind.
The cheating lament by Pats-haters is a rationale for those who don’t like it that the N.E. franchise wins an awful lot of games every year. I suspect that once Tom Brady stops winning football games for the Pats, they will cease to be cheaters. Of course, should the next N.E. quarterback be as outstanding as Brady, the cheating thing may not be retired.
If Tom Brady wasn’t the best quarterback in the NFL, no one… no one would bother critiquing him for standing in a certain way, looking over an injured player. Brady’s status as such, earns him a lot of attention, even if its silly attention – case in point – the injury lookover as noted here. Silly stuff but, Tom Brady’s involved so it must be noted and of course, condemned by his detractors.
by profootballfan on Sep 22, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people have never played competitively.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
Two seasons ago vs Texans
I watched Kubiak run out onto the field to intercept a player jogging with a limp. Colts were running no huddle and a defensive player got knicked up. He was making his way off the field when Kubiak ran out, grabbed him and put him on the turf. He then waved on the trainers. Now the guy was truly hurt but he was also going to make it off the field just fine. I’m not sure if this could be seen on tv as I was in attendance.
by YourMyBoyBlue211 on Sep 21, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
Whiners ?
Sounds like a lot of whining to me. Your contrived penalties that might be imposed on suspected injury-fakers are dumb and would only add more official involvement in a game that can hardly go two plays without a God damn flag !
If a faked injury slows a no-huddle offense down – so be it. If the offense is talented enough it will continue its advance down the field. If an offense stumbles when their rush to run a play is interupted, then that team’s offense has problems. The Patriots are using the no-huddle to great effect this season, others are using it with mixed results. Fans are bitching about the rather blatant “fakes” that the Giants employed on Monday night – the Rams were held to a field goal and they lost the game but, their offense kinda sucks anyway. If your team’s offense can be stymied by an occassional stopage of play then your team’s offense just ain’t good enough.
Its not about your offense being good enough
its about strategy, fatigue, and momentum
If a fake injury slows down the offense thats a delay of game and should be a penalty
The point is not letting the defense rest or sub which is called strategy if you get caught by it then so be it you dont flop so your team can get a break and change formations you step up and play with what youve got.
Yes the Rams offense kinda sucks but so do the giants and obviously their defense since they needed to flop anytime the Rams had momentum its not about whether the team is good or not its about playing with integrity. Your saying its ok because the Rams suck? so now flopping is ok if done against sucky teams?
No...
I’m saying occassional stopages of play are not evil and an offense ought not to rely solely on their success by rushing an opposing defense. If your offensive strategy is to use subterfuge to derail a defense’s ability to sub their proper personel, then that particular offense shouldn’t be shocked when the opposing D does the same in return.
You now want refs to decide on whether an injury is faked (good luck with that) and if so, the offending defensive player/team is to be penalized… dumb idea. There are far too many penalties in the game already. Shit – you can even tackle an NFL quarterback anymore !
by profootballfan on Sep 21, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree on the tackling but maybe if players stopped whining and faking injuries we'd see less injuries and the rules wouldnt be so restrictive
but if youre wasting time sitting on the ground because your defense cant keep up why shouldnt that be a penalty? i dont see tennis players stop in the middle of a match because they are tired you cant fake a cramp in swimming to get everyone to stop in a race.
The D faking an injury to get situated is not the same as the offense playing fast paced go offense which keeps the flow of the game going the exact opposite of the stoppage time wasting faking.
If you fatigue a defense into giving up big plays thats strategy purposely wearing them out so you can force a mistake is part of the game if you cant keep up you lose and faking injuries undermines the whole philosophy might as well call it No Child Left Behind
C.Settles
A defense has no way of rushing an offense and the same should pretty much apply to an offense rushing a defense. The ref standing over the ball until both units are set to play is a bit much but, an occassional forced stoppage of play by the defense should not offend anyone.
In baseball, a pitcher is not allowed to quick-throw to a batter, even though it would be a very effective strategy. In football, an offense that rushes a defense is allowed and so the defense will find a way to stymie offenses that rely on such tactics. No need to bitch about it – it’s only a small part of the game you love.
by profootballfan on Sep 21, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Defenses are meant to defend therefore they shouldnt be able to rush the offense
The team with the ball sets the pace and they already tried slowing down the no huddle by having the ref behind the play but it didnt really have a noticeable effect except in real fast colts no huddle.
occassional forced stoppage is ok you know what they call it? a time-out thats why they have them they arent just for icing kickers
In football, an offense that rushes a defense is allowed and so the defense will find a way to stymie offenses that rely on such tactics. No need to bitch about it
They can stop it by actually playing defense and stopping their oppents on the field with skill. Get a sack interception fumble their are plenty of ways to stop the offense without degrading the game
C.Settles
Where the ref stands has no bearing on the speed at which an offense chooses to run a play.
If an offense elects to operate with the no-huddle that’s fine… great idea if it works. If a defense cannot get its proper personnel on the field due to the no-huddle then one can expect a few cramping-type injuries to allow for same. A good offense will then respond with its next move and so on.
At times a defense relies on skill and at other times its tactics – same with an offense. The advantage still lies exclusively with the offense (as you stated, valuable time-outs may be burned by the defense) but, no need to elevate that advantage by creating a subjective penalty for a suspected fake injury.
Again, no need to bitch, its all a part of football.
by profootballfan on Sep 21, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
An offense can do whatever the fuck they want buddy
They don’t have to wait for the defense to be ready. If they want to run a no huddle, it’s the defenses job to stop them. If an offense wants to rely solely on a no huddle offense, they can do that. They can do whatever the fuck they want to. This quote made me laugh uncontrollably:
“an offense ought not to rely solely on their success by rushing an opposing defense”
Actually, an offense ought to do whatever the hell works for them and whatever the hell they want to do.
With that said, faking injuries is pathetic. If you can’t walk off the field on your own power and need the trainers to come out, than you’re obviously too hurt to play. You should have to sit out the whole series in my opinion, and we know that would be a good solution to faking injuries because no player is going to want to sit out for a series. Players want to play.
by Coltsfan1345 on Sep 21, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
until the NFL implements rules against faking injuries, defenses can continue the practice
Keep the faith!
Unfortunately yes
and it’s a disgrace to football. Goodell will obviously do something about it. This isn’t soccer, where that kind of practice is encouraged.
by Coltsfan1345 on Sep 21, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Good idea.
Unlimited time outs for a defense will make the game better!
by ActionOxford on Sep 21, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't saying it was a good idea, just stating what is currently allowed
and it looks as if the league will do something if it happens again as blatantly as it did in Week 2, especially with the Giants.
Keep the faith!
Coltsfan
And defenses will try to get away with tactics to arrest the no-huddle if they choose to. A defense is smart & effective (not pathetic) if it can upset the rhythm of a no-huddle offense that’s being run with success.
Unless you start giving medical exams in the middle of a game, it will fall on the officials to subjectively decide if a player is hurt or injured suffciently enough to not get off the field immediately – this is what you want ??
by profootballfan on Sep 21, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Just told you the solution
If the trainers come out to look at a player, he must sit out for the rest of the series. He’s obviously too hurt to play.
by Coltsfan1345 on Sep 21, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Solution
Not a bad idea but, still an unnecessary & frankly unfair penalty (to the defense) if in fact the player is nicked up enough to require some assisstance (wind knocked out or bell rung or a stinger) but, not hurt such that he can’t get right back in there on the next play. Your proposal could routinely keep a legitmately injured player out for eight or ten plays ! Not a good thing. Hell, the playing field is already slanted in the direction of the offense – look at what has gone on these first two weeks… offense out the ass !
Unless these fake injuries become more pervasive, I’d just live with the slight distraction that they bring. The NFL of course will react and probably skew the odds even greater in the offense’s favor.
by profootballfan on Sep 21, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
well i think the arguement has been solved
Faking injuries will be a finable offense therefore they are as wrong as illegal hits
Can't wait...
Can’t wait to see how bad the League f’s this up – hopefully they’ll do a better job than the way their handling “illegal” hits !!
by profootballfan on Sep 22, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It does when he takes too long to get in position and the offense is ready to go
Colts i believe got 1 and maybe the only penalty for going before the ref was set back there
A good defense should be able to cover its ass until they are able to sub or rest without faking injuries. It aso give not so great teams the ability to compete with better teams by catching them out of rotation just like chess you have to plan your moves in the time youve got if you cant you lose the game you dont just flop
Faking like a little girl is not part of football maybe prt of media driven tv ball but not part of real football it never has been and should never be
The advantage given to the offense is done by the league and thats out of the players hands they should play the best they can to win offenses dont flop when they are having a bad drive, special teams dont flop right after a punt to stifle the changing momentum its a purely defensive thing done when a team is afraid of getting beat.
Im saying if thats the only “tactic” you have to stop the offense then you deserve to be picked apart by the no huddle
You can call injury timeouts in tennis.
Ever see John McEnroe play? He wouldn’t scream at the umpire if he was about to win the match.
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
willie mcginest
What pissed me off the most was two plays after his near death experience, and after stuffing us on 4th down. Mcginest was miraculously healed and sprinted three quarters of the field in celebration. If the pats wanna complain about it now its total hypocritical bullshit.
by YourMyBoyBlue211 on Sep 21, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Pats didn't complain
The media noticed it and commented on it, but not the Patriots.
Keep the faith!
That'a okay.
When your teams suck, blame the Pats. Why change things up now, after it worked so well for 10 years?
"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West
nfl network and espn hate the colts
its so hard to watch those channels even when the colts are good. i think that if i ever met deion sanders in person i would punch him in the face and hope it left a permanent horse shoe on his face
by 5.56 InYoFace on Sep 21, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's not cheating
If it’s not against the rules. And say you put in a rule about faking injuries? What if a player does actually get a severe injury and it looks like he’s trying to sell it. Or what if someone has a heart attack and goes down that looks like a fake injury? There’s not much that can be done about this.
Its not "cheating"
but one of the points of the this year was the league was suppose to crack down on it
A valid point, which is why if they have to delay the game, the player is out until the next possession.
If a player is truly hurt, then he (or she) is going to be out anyway. They need to fix this NOW. It makes the NFL look like the WWF. Take a look at tape of the Giants game. It was ridiculous. They didn’t even TRY to look hurt, and the way they fell was laughable. The WWF won’t be calling them any time soon.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Hey, they gotta talk about something.
If we stop watching garbage daytime sports shows, they’ll stop airing and talking about stupid shit just to fill time.
In this case, the video showed such an amazingly egregious example of football flopping, it was just too good to ignore. That first Giant that fell down and got right back up.. Priceless!
by BenD on Sep 21, 2011 1:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Plus, look at this fervent little discussion we're having
Thanks ESPN!
by BenD on Sep 21, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I could've hopped on one foot for 47 yards on that play
Huge hole and nobody around to tackle him. He did what he should’ve but he was no Barry Sanders dodging tacklers and making people miss.
This write-up counts as you saying something good about Donald Brown!
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Do it like Rugby
Play keeps going, the injured player gets treated on the field and his team plays a man down.

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