2011 NFL Week Three: Steelers 23, Colts 20
by Brad Wells on Sep 25, 2011 11:54 PM EDT
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PrintIn front of a crowd Sunday night at Lucas Oil Stadium that seemed half blue & white, half black & yellow, the Indianapolis Colts put in a great effort that came just short against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Despite a tremendous showing on defense, the Colts lost 23-20, falling to 0-3 for the first time since 1998, Peyton Manning's rookie year.
Yes, this was a game where the Colts (not the Steelers) were the ones who effectively ran the football and were tough up front in stopping the run. Indy held Pittsburgh to two yards a carry while Joseph Addai ran for 86 yards and a TD on 17 carries.
The offensive line for the Colts, in particular, did a great job. They controlled the 3-4 zone blitz of the Steelers most of the night. Jeff Saturday was especially brilliant, schooling the great Casey Hampton most of the evening.
This game also saw the Colts lose another quarterback. A hit from James Farrior knocked Colts quarterback Kerry Collins out of the game in the third quarter, giving way to Curtis Painter. Much to the surprise of everyone, Painter looked good.
Well, somewhat good.
Sure, during his first series, Painter got sacked by James Harrison, fumbled, and Troy Polamalu recovered it for a TD to give Pittsburgh a 20-13 lead. But, Painter did come back on his next drive and took the Colts right down the field. The drive culminated in a six-yard TD by Joseph Addai, tying the game at 20-20.
However, on the next drive, Pittsburgh drove the ball the length of the field and, with eight seconds left, kicked a 38-yard FG to win the game.
Prior to Collins going down with an apparent concussion, he was pretty much ineffective. He couldn't convert on third down. He couldn't put the ball in the endzone both times the Colts offense got in the redzone.
The putrid play of Collins aside, the story of this game was the defense. In the second quarter, Robert Mathis had a sack-fumble which the Colts recovered and turned into 3 points. Dwight Freeney had a BIG sack fumble, which Jamaal Anderson ran back for a touchdown, tying the game at 10-10.
Freeney had two sacks in the game, and harassed Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger all night.
Another great player on defense for the Colts tonight was Pat Angerer. He had 20 friggin tackles. He's the new middle linebacker now. I don't want to see Gary Brackett starting at MIKE again when he comes back healthy.
Again, it was enjoyable to see this team have some life and play with some passion. This kind of overall effort was missing the first two games. Yes, I'm still seeing dumb coaching moves, like having Dallas Clark block James Harrison one-on-one during run plays (seriously, WTF Caldwell?). But, overall, despite the loss, this game was enjoyable. Clearly the issue with this team is the play of the QBs. Painter, while he looked good on the drive to tie the game, is still a turnover machine.
And Collins... he's just not very effective.
At 0-3, there is no realistic shot at making the playoffs. In terms of that, this season is over. 0-3 teams do not make the post-season. Not in the AFC. From October-December, it's now basically about seeing who comes to play every week, and who doesn't.
Today, the defense definitely brought it. Maybe, going forward, this is something to build on.
Talk and discuss the game. Congrats to the Steelers.
Go Colts.
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If we could just teach our QBs
to protect the ball, we might even win some games. Good effort. The Colts are getting closer.
Sorry Colts fans
Despite being a Pats fan I wanted you to win ;(.
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by New Century Silver on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
We're gonna need a poll at some point.
Who do you think should start and who will start? Collins or Painter? Both being healthy, of course.
Does it really matter?
Seriously, I can put a poll up, but both guys are pretty ineffective. Yeah, Curtis had a nice drive. But, if he is so good, why did the Colts sign Collins and give him $4 mill this year?
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There is a chance of Painter getting better.
I have seen nothing from Collins. Most of his mistakes are ones a veteran QB should not be making. He’s locking of receivers, missing throws badly, not picking up obvious blitzes and cannot handle pressure. That doesn’t even take into account his tendency to lose the football.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
right... because Painter's strip-6 looked better than the one he gave up against the Jets two years ago.
by SoCalHoosier on Sep 26, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Castanzo had nothing to do with that play?
Collins has fumbled the ball this year too. I’m not saying Painter is the answer, but what exactly has Collins done to prove he is better?
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
He got a $14 million dollar contract
That mans he’s better.
If Collins gets benched, that’s a player making $4 mill this year doing nothing.
Also, if Painter is ‘better,’ or ‘good’ as the Colts front office keeps gushing, then why didn’t they start him Week One?
If it’s Week Six and the team is 0-6, yeah. I can see the Colts giving Painter a go. But, not now.
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Waste what?
The season is over. It’s now about trying to avoid 0-16. Once Painter gets the start, the Colts are giving up. He isn’t a good QB. One drive doesn’t change that.
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and collins is good?
Never thought one drive changed anything. But 3 losses and only 2 touchdowns (one in garbage time!) in 3 games does change my mind. That tells me to go to option ‘B’ and right now CP is apparently option ‘B’
collins other TD against the texans
was reggie wayne making an awesome catch, collins pretty much threw that ball away and if it wasn’t for reggie we probably would have been shout out
He is the only QB we've seen get in a rhythm
That drive was the only one so far this season where we’ve seen a Colts QB get the offense in a rhythm. It also provided a TD in the red zone. Get over the Painter hate…
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Sep 26, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
All aboard the Painter express.
No amount of hate or condemnation will stop this thing. Do I sense a 13-3 season? Yes, I do.
Ha!
This might be the first year 8-8 wins a playoff spot in the AFC in a long time. Only undefeated team at this point is the Bills. I hope the 13-3 was sarcasm.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
I'm with you...
Clearly BBS has narrow view on this. Painter may not be a great QB but it shows he is a pretty good QB to keep his head together after fumbling away 6 points. Give the kid a shot.
by Colts Syndrome on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
It means they thought he was better.
This is the same thing you argue against on draft picsk. The better player plays. I’m not going to say who you should want to start, but it’s the better player. Don’t bring money into it at this point.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
The best...
guy PLAYS. I don’t care what Collins salary is. Collins may be a veteran and can pick up on things that Painter can’t, but the guy can’t make the throws. Painter had some stupid throws (shake to Garcon was an easy game-changing TD and the third down throw has to be made) but the guy came into the game ice cold. This is coming from me, a guy who can’t stand Painter. Collins is just too washed up. Addai carried the team on the TD drive, but Painter made a good throw to move us down the field. Kerry couldn’t make that throw to save his life and it’s not because of arm strength. His throwing motion is sloth-like and he has horrible field vision. Horrible.
If Painter will cut his stupid ass hair, he should be given the opportunity to start and win some games. If he can’t cut the mustard, bring Kerry back in. What do we have to lose?
Oh, NOTHING.
As Colts’ fans, we have a lot of positives to enjoy from this game. The d-line is scary good and Angerer/Conner looked awesome. Conner hits like a freight train and Angerer is an absolute BALL HAWK. Don’t forget about Wheeler! Brackett should be done. Johnson, who you were bitching about Caldwell starting before the game btw, looked pretty good imo. I still like Tryon though. The secondary is just weak period. The 3rd and long conversions were disgusting and Bethea made some re-re plays.
My overall thoughts: With this d-line (they gotta play like this away from home), Addai/Carter running like they have been, and a healthy #18 running the show, we are a Super Bowl favorite and blow the Steelers out of the water. We probably would be the best team in the damn AFC. That’s why it’s an absolute shame that he isn’t out there. It kills me…
Big props to the 12th man and every fan. I hate losing like this but I love my Colts. I know that much, fellas.
Go Colts!
P.S. Collinsworth aka the ultimate Brady knob slobber even realizes what Manning means to the Colts and to football period. He is the GOAT. No ifs, ands or buts!
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Thing to remember that no one is pointing out is that the huge miss was his first pass attempt.
Should he have made it? HELL YES HE SHOULD. But, right now, Painter’s rep is working for him. The Steelers were selling out against the run and on a couple of plays, Painter made them pay, and on his first pass play, had a chance to make them pay big. He missed it by a lot, but next time, mark my words, he makes it. And we’ll all regret a little more Kerry Collins being brought in.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
I wouldn't...
offer any guarantees for Painter, but I think he makes that throw if he’s in the whole game. However, who’s to say the game is that close if he’s in? The guy’s inexperience is a major liability, but Collins looked like a total scrub. He missed some obvious blitz packages and sucked on his protection changes.
I didn’t see one thing from Collins that made me think he should start over Painter. That’s pathetic but true. As far as I’m concerned, the Colts wasted $4 million big ones.
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i agree with you on everything in this post. hopefully painter gets a shot next week so we can find out if we're right or wrong.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
Conner
He is really getting better at defending the run, but he is still horrible in coverage. There were several times where he was slipping into Angerers zone and left his area uncovered…meaning that 3rd and 8, 3rd and 12, even 3rd and 18 were being converted all night.
The overall secondary, including LBs, just isn’t getting off the field enough.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Single dumbest comment I've ever read:
" He got a $14 million dollar contract. That mans he’s better."
Sorry, but I expect a lot more common sense and insight than that from someone who claims to be a Colts blogger.
The answer to both of your questions is that the front office is stupid and has utterly lost their collective minds. Collins is getting NOTHING done. Put Painter in and see if he can move the ball. Collins sure can’t.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Sep 26, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions
This has got to be a joke...
BBS using salary to mean a player is better? That means Donald Brown is better than Carter, right?
I believe Collins will not turn the ball over as much as Painter.
He may not look good but he’s had far less reps with this offense than Painter has had.
The limited playing time for Painter has ALWAYS been accompanied by turnovers.
by SoCalHoosier on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
The fact both of them turn it over is definitely
a concern. And, the fact that neither is very accurate is also a concern.
Too bad we don't have someone like Brandstater as a back-up.
The two we have now are totally unacceptible any way you look at it. I don’t have confidence with either of them.
he looked ok
and better than collins he was 13/29 for 93 yards compare to painter 5/11 60 yards and in that fumble castonzo just got flat out beat by one of the best pass rushers in the nfl. sure he held the ball for too long but what that was his first series since the preseason. im not sayin that he is good and way way better than collins, but in his first red zone attempt the colts scored a TD, in a pressure situation unlike last week where collins scored a meaningless TD. Next week i wanna see painter, and hopefully during the week he takes most of the reps with the first team, timing and throwing needs to get better. Also he has the support of the team, especially reggie wayne
It wasn't his first drive, or even his second. It was his third.
Other than that I’m totally with you. I grant you that both drives ended very abruptly.
The first drive ended on a long incompletion to Garcon that would have been 6 had Painter hit it. Which was an inexcusable miss, but also his first pass attempt. His second and third were also misses, and his 4th pass attempt was the sack/strip/td. He hit 5 of 7 throws on the next drive, which resulted in Addai being amazing for a TD.
And if Collins is concussed, we probably will see exactly what you want.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
Since it doesn't really matter... just start Curtis "Strip-6" Painter.
There seems to be some sort of fan base that whats to root for him regardless of how many times he turns the ball over.
by SoCalHoosier on Sep 26, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
The fumble/return was bad, but do you really think Collins would've gotten rid of the ball?
He’s tortoise slow.
I think he would've had enough pocket awareness to crumble on the ground or take a step and fall.
by SoCalHoosier on Sep 26, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
That was mainly on Castanzo.
Painter needs to be more aware, but he didn’t single handedly give the game away.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
at least
Kerry Collins doesn’t look like a hippie.
Stay Handsome.
by andyprocombat on Sep 26, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Lmao...
Painter must be forced to cut his hair. He looks like a total douche. You’re a QB, bro.
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by Stew Blake on Sep 26, 2011 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Locks of Love, baby. Cut him some slack for not cutting his hair. It has to be a certain length before getting cut.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
A lot of good to take away from the game.
1. Nevis keeps getting better. The d line is progressing.
2. The O line seems to get better every week. They are giving the run game some life.
3. The team really stepped up and played tough tonight.
4. We need to sub lbs on 3rd and long. Conner is an absolute liability in that situation.
5. Please drop Lacey to dime back. How much more does he have to do to prove he cannot start for the Colts?
6. Do not expect Clark to block the Harrisons and Mario Williams of the NFL.
7. Use Eldridge more. Things worked much better with him helping out.
8. We need better play calling. Mix the run and pass, more play action of first down, a draw in passing situations once in awhile.
A final note. I was on the open thread tonight and was embarrassed by a lot of the Colt fans. I realize that many are not happy with the QB situation right now. However, it came close to people rooting for him to fail before he even had a chance. You are not a true Colts fans if you give up rooting for this team to win. This attitude is worse than any action or mistake that has been made by anyone on the team.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
I’m rooting for a bad season for a few reasons.
1. A better draft pick to get Peyton’s replacement. Andrew Luck, or any other first round QB would be fantastic and it’d give us hope for the future, kind of like Green Bay. You know them, the team that replaced a HOFer with another Pro Bowler and a Super Bowl MVP.
2. Coaching changes. A full overhaul. I haven’t seen this team win all 3 phases of the game since Dungy left.
3. Front office changes. Maybe not the Pollians leaving, but a change in philosophy from them. It’s not working anymore. They need to change their thinking, and I’m not sure how I’d like to see them change, but I’d like them to move to more of a Green Bay and New England style thinking. Something that will allow us to be more than just a QB and a few DEs.
4. Fan expectation changes. I know I’ve changed mine. I used to be in the mindset of “Let’s win now, forego any hope for the future and just get a Super Bowl.” Now I want them to build a franchise that will get us another 9 years of playoff runs. And I won’t be as upset by the ones and dones, because at least we had 17 games that season, as opposed to 16 where 5 are meaningless because we were so far out of it.
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Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
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If Peyton is still healthy
Then getting Luck is pointless….he will be sitting on the bench the entire length of his first contract. So they will have to sign him to a huge 2nd contract without even seeing how he plays in the NFL!!
My opinion is that if Manning is healthy at the end of this season he should get the start in the last couple games so the team can see if he’s still got it. If he does, then no need to get a QB in the 1st round this year. If he doesn’t, then they can draft a QB early and might need to make some VERY tough decisions due to Manning’s salary.
But seriously if Manning is healthy and still the same old P, the team needs to load up on defensive studs and make a 3 year run to end it on a high note for the man that made this franchise what it is in Indy..
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
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1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Hell Yes.
4. Yeah, but unfortunately, that’s Sims’ job, and he’s hurt.
5. Seriously.
6. Seriously seriously.
7. I’m really happy about him.
8. Run was working, pass was not. Bizarro world, we live in thee.
Angerer is a beast and I may buy his jersey soon. And give a little love to Phil Wheeler, too. He had the look tonight of someone who’s finally had the light come on for him.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
Never thought I'd say this....
I really believe Painter should start next week. He generated about as much offense in one quarter as Collins did in 3. Yes, he still turns it over a bit much, but at least he proved somewhat capable of making throws down the field. I think he can be effective, or at least more effective than Collins, if he gets first team reps this week.
by LetsGoHorse on Sep 26, 2011 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
How can you blame him for that turnover?
He was blindsided by a total whiff from Castonzo. Roethlesberger coughed up 2 when he had time to think…
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Sep 26, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stopped believing as soon as Painter came in...
So… in the long run, the Colts loss is probabily better for the organization… (Doesnt make it any easier to swallow) and DEAR GOD PLEASE TELL ME THEY FINALLY FIRE CURTIS PAINTER!!!!!!!!! I mean, seriously… If you or I did our job that awful… we’d be fired… why are we paying him so much money… anybody else hear Polian on 97.1 after the game just OOZING over Painter in this game…?? It’s hard to watch this…
Colts have SO much talent, and WOW what a defensive game… if we have even a HINT of a pass game, we win this game…!!!
Neither QB played well. But one of them is 38 years old and aging by the second.
The other is 25, knows the offense, and might be able to become a decent backup QB. Might as well develop him as a backup.
by MichColtFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I don't see how
after this game you complain about Painter and say nothing about Collins. Neither have the talent to be starting or even backup QB’s in this league, but in my opinion it was pretty obvious Painter is the better option here.
I’m just going to say it. If we have ANY other teams backup QB starting for us tonight, we win the game. It is absolutly pathetic a team with this much talent cannot find a single qb to help us win games. For fuck sake Troy Smith would have won this game, Matt Leinart would have won, Vince Young would have won this god damn game. This is so frustrating. Why do we have the worst quarterbacks in the league.
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I agreed with you until Vince Young
by Coltsfaninoklahoma1 on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yah
trying to get a point across, but I admit, maybe a stretch lol
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously...
…you need a hug.
If at first you don't succeed, quit and watch TV.
In the name of the Colts, the Hoosiers, and the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Amen.
by The Learned Hand on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
*KERRY COLLINS
"'Walkseem' is the word Marty uses when he is angry.
And he walkseem! Walkseem again!" - Cuetotally Amazing
Deffence kept the colts in the game just as much
as they lost the game
I’m not just referring to the last drive. How many third and long conversions did the steelers have? I don’t know how they ended 8-15 on third down because in the first half they were nearly batting 1.000. They didn’t fold and did well against the run, but the pass defense was complete crap. The offense did not regularly produce, but get a freak’n stop on 3rd and 12.
Huh?
Am I the only one who thought Painter looked awful?
No
You aren’t. Painter did not look good.
Also, if Painter starts, then the Colts wasted $4 mill this season on Collins.
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I think it's safe to say they wasted the money.
He hasn’t been worth minimum wage let alone millions.
The four mil doesn't matter.
It is spent no matter who plays. You ignore it and put in the player who gives you the best shot to win. If you think it’s Collins fine. Just don’t use the money arguement. It’s as bad as saying we should play someone because he is a high draft pick.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
'It is spent no matter who plays.'
It’s best if it is spent on players who actually play.
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
the Colts have a history of spending money
on players that don’t play.
name a team that doesn't
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
Ok
That is neither here nor there. Collins did not come close to playing as well as Painter did. I think he’s earned the chance to start against TB. I don’t care if they paid Collins $8 million. If he can’t run the offense as well as Painter, then Painter should start.
by Can't Wait!! on Sep 26, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless KC retires
Can we get the team doctors to convince KC he could die if he takes a hit like that again? Or can the Colts rip him in the presser enough to make him want to quit? If he retires the Colts do not have to pay. Maybe he’ll retire if he’s put in the backup role…
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Uh, yeah they
already wasted that. Have you seen ANYTHING from Collins that makes you think he has any chance of offering anything to this team? He retired for a reason.
It's a waste even if Collins comes back
Neither Collins nor Painter are good options. But Collins was a $4M option. Dumb move.
He did look awful
But to me, he looked like he could give the colts mediocre QB play. which is more than Collins has delivered for $4 mil.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
I thought Painter looked great
for coming out cold without, once again, being part of the game plan, that drive he engineered was masterful. Making changes at the line and getting Addai a look for the big gain in the red zone. This is what Collins has been missing. Yes he missed throws, but they looked like timing/chemistry issues that Collins has had 3 weeks to figure out and has been awful with. He also had some great timing throws. I thought he looked good and managed the game well. We could not have expected that 80 yard drive from Collins. It wouldn’t have happened.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
He would be an awesome rock skipper...
The guy short hops 90% of his passes.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
its painters time
He really should start next week… I know its crazy but Kerry is just filling space when he is in there. Another thing… Jacob Lacey should no longer be a starter on this team he is horrendous out there. And im not throwing the white yet the aft south is not very strong there is still a tiny tiny chance. A big win next week on the road and then we have the chiefs and bengals who are lets just say less than stellar. Everyone stick with them!!! go colts!!!!!
by OriolesFan9229 on Sep 26, 2011 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
Improvement
This time when JC says they showed some improvement, I actually believe it! Painter looks “fresher and spunkier” than Kerry Collins if you ask me. Hats off to the D! GREAT GAME. Several players had their coming out IMO….Anger, Nevis, Link, and I think Fedge showed some hope at Safety. Great game. Getting closer… I keep saying that after every game. I’ll continue to pray for this team and Peyton everyday. They’re getting there…
Wheeler actually looked like he had a pretty good game, as well.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
if only Peyton had the defense/o line that played tonight
by OriolesFan9229 on Sep 26, 2011 12:11 AM EDT reply actions
to me it seems like everyone is trying harder since they know Peyton can’t bail them out on national TV
by Coltsfaninoklahoma1 on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Dallas Clark struggling in this run first offense.
He is a poor blocker at the line of scrimmage. They need to go with Tamme more.
I've always like Eldridge
but I am a born and bred Sooner. He did sub in for our oline in 2008 so you know he has experience blocking.
by Coltsfaninoklahoma1 on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I couldn't believe they weren't throwing him in against Harrison instead of Clark
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Can't give up on the season just yet
You’re right 0-3 teams don’t make the playoffs in almost any year. This year the only undefeated team in the NFL is the Buffalo Bills. The fact that the Bills and Lions are both undefeated also shows this is a very odd year so far. Colts could easily go 3-3 with the next three games being Tampa, KC, and Cincinatti. The team is starting to gel and build momentum.
Also, you can’t blame Painter for that fumble. Totally blindsided by the first total whiff we’ve seen from Castonzo all season. If you want to pick a player to blame for this loss, it could easily fall on Castonzo. How come no one is talking about that?
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
I don't think we can place sole blame on Castonzo...
No one, especially our starting rookie left tackle, deserves sole blame for a loss
maybe its because painter held the ball longer than he was suppose to
and castanzo is a rookie playing against one of the hardest defenses in the league and had one bad play which couldve been a sack at worst if painter could protect the ball
or if besides his happy feet painter was as much as a statue as collins
You can forget about drafting Luck
There is no way this team finishes with the worst record int he league.
The Seahawks won today
and the Chiefs still have the Broncos twice. If Minnesota can put together 2 halves they could actually be decent.
by Coltsfaninoklahoma1 on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you could be right, but you have to remember that this is only week 3. If the Colts
don’t pick up a few wins by week 8, it is highly likely that the defensive effort that we saw tonight is going to disappear. Losing teams have a habbit of not going all out.
by MichColtFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Well
We still have the Chiefs and Bengals. I think those are our last two “winnable” games at this point. Also our game against the Pats is going to get flexed out of prime time so fast it won’t be funny :(
by Coltsfaninoklahoma1 on Sep 26, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
It looked like
after a couple of series Painter looked more comfortable. I still dont see Collins winning with this team. He is too slow passing the ball. That missed TD to Garcon really hurt…come on! All the Colts need is a QB! I can only hope that Painter gets better and better now considering Collins is concussed
The team lost due to sub-par QB play by Collins. Painter wasn't very good, either,
but the offense looked more like the Colts offense with him at the controls. The Steelers won because of Big Ben. Even though he had fumbles and INT, he carried his team to the victory.
The Steelers won because of Harrison and Polamalu stepping up big at the end
Big Ben did more harm than good to his team.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
Feeling comfortable
For the first time this year I saw the Colts offense look alot more comfortable with Painter in there. I admit I have not been the biggest Painter supporter, but with what we have to work with I think he gives us the best chance to win. To me it looks like team looks much more fluid with him playing.
by peyton2wayne on Sep 26, 2011 12:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Did anyone see
Pollack getting to the second level on some of those running plays? I started having flashbacks to when we had good guard play. Jake Scott?
by Coltsfaninoklahoma1 on Sep 26, 2011 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
I saw Devann
sucking ass today for the Eagles, made me feel a little better. Lilja Saturday Scott was a nice little interior line boy I tell yah
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
but at least Painter knows where
The receivers will be when they break. Even Wayne admitted as much. When he sets his hips and breaks he expects the ball to be there. Collins can’t do it. At least Painter knows. But the problem is can he hit it
Dear Diary, Kevin is so hot. Today he was raking the yard. God I wish he'd throw me into that pile of leaves.
by GotDebt on Sep 26, 2011 12:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Painter's problem is accuracy. And, when he misses, he really misses. We can only
hope that lots of repetition and some confidence will help.
by MichColtFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I see that from both QBs.
Painter skips more short ones, while Collins can’t hit anything deep. I think this is a moot point anyways because I doubt Collins makes it through the season. I’m with Painter because there is potential to improve. I look at some of the mistakes that Collins is making, and a veteran shouldn’t be making them.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Painter also
has a problem with his ‘situational awareness.’
Ya but that shit comes with experience, which he has virtually none of.
by KingRichard on Sep 26, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah like when he audibled the run to Addai
and Addai had an 8 yard carry to get the ball to the 3 yard line and set up the score??? I completely disagree with you, he made great decisions. Collins missed at least 3-4 wide open WR. Painter found them, he just didn’t do a great job with the on target throw early on. The last drive he stepped up, went through his progressions, and made great decisions.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
For coming in in the situation he was in, Curtis Painter was excellent tonight
by OriolesFan9229 on Sep 26, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
He was basically thrown to the wolves ala week 16 in 2009, yet again. He has yet to get a fair shake at playing in my opinion. If the Colts coaching staff stops screwing him over a bit and gives him this whole week to practice with the starters, who knows, the Colts might actually win a game.
by KingRichard on Sep 26, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Negativity
I’m tired of all this negativity. we love this team dont we? That was not 50% steelers fans did you hear Lucas oil on third down? it was just as loud as always. tonight proved to me that other than the secondary and of course the quarterback this is a pretty god damn good football team. painter should start next week at least he is capable of doing something
by OriolesFan9229 on Sep 26, 2011 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yes
The crowd was awesome, Surround sound made my walls shake, even after all the killer 3rd and long conversions, they got right back up and made noise
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
and yah
this negativity for the past few months is a joke. Either you like rooting for the team or you don’t. it’s a shame every negative thing is highlighted on the front page, and then on top of that there is completely made up bullshit like the 50/50 thing that you have to weed through.
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I know
I believe in thisnteam Peyton or not and while tonightnwas probably one of the toughest regular season loses I’ve dealt with, I’m not going to say it’s over untilnthis team is mathematically eliminated. I love the colts and I believe everyone else should give it a try. Clearly the team itself believes too. They were warriors tonight
by OriolesFan9229 on Sep 26, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
But they didn't do everything perfect
So I’m gonna write some negative shit about the team so later I can say I told you so. because being a cynic jerk and saying “I’m right! See I said that here(link)” gives me a boner and is MUCH more important to me than rooting for the team and turning a blind eye every now and then for the sake of enjoying myself a little more. It’s ok to be a blind ol fanboy every now and then, it’s not all about being “right”
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't of said it better myself
what really pisses me off is the fact that some are already eliminating the colts and calling it a season. The last time I checked there are 13 games left including 5 in the division. This shit is far from over go colts
by OriolesFan9229 on Sep 26, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Glad to see Painter getting some cheers after what happened to him back in the
14-0 game. Of course, he fumbled for 6 points in that one, too. I guess it is special gift.
Again, you can not blame him for that fumble
It’s funny to me that the Painter hate is so great that no one has said anything about how badly Castonzo whiffed on that block. That play is exactly why PM should be IR’d immediately. He would have lost the ball there too. It was a Castonzo problem, not a Painter problem.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Yes Castonzo got beat
But it was a quick drop, and supposed to be a quick throw. Once the quick throw wasn’t there, Painter should have been looking to bail on the play. That’s when Manning drops into the fetal position. They talk about a QB’s internal clock all the time. Painter hit the snooze button on his on that play. It was a 50/50 play between Castonzo and Painter.
Creator and developer of the Winning Stats.
Outside of qb great game by your guys. I hope you get some better qb play and start winning some games. Clearly the team still has talent, particularly those defensive ends.
thanks for the kind words
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
I’d like to gloat a little here because I’m on record as basically being the only person in existence to say that the Colts should have started Painter from the onset. Even though Painter had a few horrible passes, it was so evident that he looked more comfortable, the offense flowed better, and even showed some serious signs of life. It’s not even a debate anymore in my opinion. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not (aside from me, obviously, since I’m doing it), the QB who gives this team the best chance to win this season is CURTIS FREAKIN PAINTER.
That is all. (takes a bow)
by KingRichard on Sep 26, 2011 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I have 3 fan posts supporting Painter
and saying the Collins signing was the biggest mistake the Colts would make all offseason. I’m 100% in agreement with your post.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Sep 26, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I too have made some posts supporting Painter
Honestly, everybody has been so harsh on Painter without really giving him a fair chance. I don’t care what anybody says at this point, but I believe 100% that Painter has not been given a fair chance and that he should start next week regardless of whether or not Collins in good to go
I was on the opposite fence, but I think I was wrong.
It shouldn’t be about who was right or wrong or even who got paid what. It is who gives us the best chance to win. I don’t want to win the luck sweepstakes. I want the Colts to play as hard as they can, be competative and win football games. If that makes me a minority here, fine.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
agreed
being a fan is fun, when being right about everything is not the main objective
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, if I was worried about being right or wrong then I wouldn’t have been honest. What I said in that fanpost is/was what I honestly believe. I just so happened to be right, and I enjoy being right.
by KingRichard on Sep 26, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
yah you weren't the intended
target there, just bad timing now that I look at the thread I was commenting on haha
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
ditto to this. all of this.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
you mean the guy whos been there for 3 years has more chemistry and comfort
than the guy who has been there a month omg you are a genius.
Given the time to make that connection Collins would be a better option the problem is neither the team nor Collins health is good enough to afford us that time.
I dont like Painter and i dont think coming in for a couple of series and having one good one to make up for the TD the offense gave up is proof of anything but I think he does need to start a game or two to prove or show he can actually be consistent throughout a game. and playing ok against the bengals doesnt count I mean a legitimate team maybe one good team and one bad to see the difference on how he does
You forgot about the Packer game
He played well against the Packer starters too. 2 good defenses great poise, this guy deserves a shot after what we’ve seen from collins.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Painter should start next week
When Painter came in the offense looked different. They looked more efficent and more confident. Sure he made some bad throws, but all in all, he out played Kerry Collins. I even think the team has a little more faith in him than Kerry,
Hermey Painter
Hermey the Misfit Elf is our QB.
by ColtsFanInHouston on Sep 26, 2011 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
What does Rudolph represent?
"'Walkseem' is the word Marty uses when he is angry.
And he walkseem! Walkseem again!" - Cuetotally Amazing
With the way the defense, offensive line, Addai played tonight, with a little Qb play, i can see us making a nice run in the next couple weeks. I really think that Painter should take first team reps next week and get that chemistry going with the wr, te, and rb. I think that will help Painter out alot and get down some of those timing routes.
It's not really a timing deal with him right now.
It’s confidence. Get him in there, give him some easy throws to start off with. He gives us a chance for the deep ball. He has better mobility. Preach to him to throw it away when in doubt and roll with it.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Signs
1) the run game
2) the o-line while running
3) the D line against the run….NICE !!!!
4) obviously 93 and 98
5) McAfeee kickoffs and punts
just to name a few.
Horrible 3rd down pass coverage…seriously 3 and 12, 18. No way they should be converting those let alone the other 7 3rd downs of 7plus yards.
But honestly I was very impressed with the good signs. I am prob in denial but don’t want to write the season of just yet. I know we will get a fairly high draft pick which enourages me and if the run game keeps it up, and the run D keeps playing like this. With 18 back next year…watch…the….F…out !!!!
a few of McAfee's punts made me cringe, actually
and i like him so much my handle is named for him.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
I don't think either QB gives us much of a chance to win.
It took a superhuman effort by our pass rushers and run D to even get the score close. With all due respect to our defense, we don’t often see that kind of performance from them, and we usually don’t get that many turnovers. And because of that, we need some offense to win games in the future. I don’t have a warm fuzzy feeling about either quarterback going forward.
Well we've
seen 3 games now of Collins, and have seen absolutely nothing from him in any of those games….and I mean NOTHING. Like some of the consistently ugly QB play that you could ever think of. I don’t see why we don’t give Painter a shot at this point.
If you listen to the post game comments from the Colts offensive players, they seem to hint that they’d prefer going with Painter, as he knows the entire playbook, he knows the audibles, etc…
We’ve never seen Painter actually get to settle in and play a game with the 1st string offense. Why not take the chance? One thing I’m very confident in, Collins is not going to come close to getting it done. He is so far off right now, even if he improved the season would be over before he could actually offer anything.
I think realistically, even management can only give him a couple of more games.
One more game is a quarter of the season. If he cannot start moving the offense soon, you have to try something different.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
True dedication to his craft
We’re gonna need a bigger bus, because I think alot of true Colts fans are gonna be boarding the CP bandwagon
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, he's growing out his hair to donate to Locks of Lock, just like Patty Mac.
Give the guy a break.
by 18man on Sep 26, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think
Bronson Arroyo looks a lot more like Kurt than Painter.
"'Walkseem' is the word Marty uses when he is angry.
And he walkseem! Walkseem again!" - Cuetotally Amazing
lololololololol
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
One miracle Painter performed
He got Garcon to catch the ball tonight…
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
"this is all I gotta do? STFU !??!!"
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol! Love this!
"I bet Eli doesn't even have one touchdown today... I'm the best Manning."
~ Peyton Manning
Collins
13-29 93 yards. That’s a little over 3 yds per attempt…
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
3.2 to be more precise. Painter has nearly 75% more YPA at 5.45
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
I honestly don't understand the argument for not starting Painter. And I'm someone who was staunchly anti-Painter up unti tonight.
Collins has been atrocious. His accuracy is terrible. What harm could it POSSIBLY do to see if Painter, with a full week’s practice, can do any better?
I agree.
They should just stick in Painter to develop into a better backup quarterback. Collins likely won’t be around next season.
He DEFINITELY won't be back next year.
He’d be making $10 mil to do less than nothing. Either Peyton will be back or they’ll cut him and draft Luck. No room for Collins.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
Proud of the team tonight but now START PAINTER.....
What is it going to hurt now? Collins has nothing left in the tank and that is blatantly obvious. Curtis after the bad series stepped up right after a fumble for a TD and marched us right back down field for our own TD. That is showing composure and fire that Kerry is seriously laking. This season is a wrap and we are in the Suck for Luck Campaign folks. If we are going to keep Curtis LET HIM PLAY!!! Bet he could get us a win before Kerry does. We don’t want to go 0-16. That being said on to the next one. GO COLTS!!!
Painter should start the rest of the season.
At 0-3 and no Peyton we are a sure fire lock to miss the playoff so why waste our time on a QB who has no shot of sticking around long term. I’m not blind to realize that the chances of Painter being the quarterback of the future are slim bit you would be blind to say there isn’t a nonzero chance he is. If he is great with practice time and game experience then we can spend our top pick on a linemen etc but if he is bad the we can just go ahead and draft a QB next year.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
by bbxxj on Sep 26, 2011 12:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Curtis “Sunshine” Painter also gave up a touchdown for holding onto the ball too long, so let’s not get carried away. I don’t think either QB great going forward, but it’s not like Painter had a Tom Brady like debut.
Can't say he held the ball too long
Harrison had a clear path
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
They did not
Polian said that fumble wasn’t Painter’s fault. It was a play action drop with developed reads. Harrison game all the way around Castonzo and came from Painter’s 8 o’clock. There is no way he could have seen or expected that hit. When he saw Harrison leave the line, he was in Castonzo’s blocking path. Castonzo got to his spot too slow and whiffed on the block. Harrison had a clear path to Painter and inflicted Castonzo’s punishment on Curtis. That sack probably would have put Collins out for at least a week or two. Curtis came back in and led a game tying 80 yard drive.
Be honest, if Peyton took that sack you would be all over the rookie and talking about how maybe he isn’t as good as we originally thought. The reason Curtis is getting all of the blame is he is an easy target.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
U think anyone here thinks Painter's great?
your comment’s a day late n dollar short, it’s about the best option we have, that’s painter
by Hitstick Killer on Sep 26, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
My argument isn't that he'll be great it's just he can't be worse than Collins.
Give him a shot and see what he can do with all the first team reps.
Painter can be worse, but he can also be better.
The thing is, would you take that chance or would you settle for the predictable performance of Collins. Collins will complete about half of his passes, throw for a little over a hundred yards, throw a TD every 2-3 games and cough up 6-10 fumbles this year. That’s provided he makes it through the year, which is far from a given.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 26, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah 18man....
Reggie was saying it early on when we were crying to get another QB and for a bit after we got Collins. We got what we wanted and maybe we should have listened to Reggie. Guess when you hang around Peyton for a couple of years you do pick up on something.
Wasn't it crazy?
Steelers were bringing Polamolu every play and the Steelers were bringing insane pressure to throw Painter off. He stood tall and shook them off. Was pretty neat to see that kind of Poise. Collins honestly looks like a person who won a ‘Enter this drawing to win a chance to start at QB for the Colts!’ contest. Totally lost out there…
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Three things I'm happy about today.
New England lost.
Houston lost.
And, the Colts didn’t embarrass themselves on national TV.
I am always conflicted when it comes to the Saints.
I like Drew Brees but I hate the Saints.
Play Painter Now
Seriously, I can put a poll up, but both guys are pretty ineffective. Yeah, Curtis had a nice drive. But, if he is so good, why did the Colts sign Collins and give him $4 mill this year?
Reply – I think the Colts signed Collins to pacify us fans and the media. I believe they wanted to bring in another FA or more with that 4 mil instead of using it for Collins.
That $4 mill will be a wasted investment because the 38 year old Collins is not going to keep us in the postseason race until PM returns. If our ultimate goal is to get back to the SB and win it, we are wasting time playing Collins. The run for a SB begins next year, not this year. And Collins will not be back next year at age 39!
We need to play Painter enough to make an intelligent decision on whether he should be back in 2012. Painter is not at the level we expected. But he has had very limited playing/practice time with the 1st team. The drive to tie the game tonight showed he has potential. More games should show us whether we need to draft a QB next year, or not.
We need PM back healthy and close to 100% to get to another SB in 2012. I believe we also need some more good players to accomplish this. PM is probably past the age where he can carry the team on his back again. PM"s absence this year has clearly shown us how badly we need to improve.
I hope PM is healthy
Anybody else catching this.........................
Before the start of the season we all wanted Painter to be cut, and now you’ll want him to start, and because of one drive. Look I’m ecstatic about the way he played, or just about as ecstatic as you could be for a third string back up. But one drive doesn’t change anything he’s not going to be any better of an option then Kerry Collins right now. I mean even Vince Young had some good games. You can’t judge him on one drive.
So what you are saying is..
That Painter should start so we can see whether or not that one drive was a fluke? I agree wholeheartedly.
I can judge Collins on 3 games' worth of suckitude.
Is painter good? HELL no. Is he a better option than Collins right now? I think so.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
Pride
The more I think about it…. I am so fucking proud of the way this team played last night. They fought until the end. That front seven on defense played as tough as anyone in the nfl and the o line was just incredible. This was hands down one of the most devastating regular season loses I have ever experienced as a colts fans. They played well enough to win this game at every position except QB. Regardless I fucking love the colts and Im proud of the way they played. If anything it shows that there is some talent in Indy other than Peyton manning. This is a solid football team. GO COLTS
The QB play isn’t good. No surprise. But I’m getting sick of people saying “the D played great” and “our run D is good”. NO! A COUPLE of the players on D played great and teams don’t need to run on you when they can pass for almost 10 yards per attempt, all day long.
With piss-poor QB play the pass defense is even more important and with this terrible pass defense the Colts will NEVER be able to outscore another team this season. Painter won’t have much chance unless they fix that because he just won’t be able to keep up.
And the coaching…gah. So terrible. With these QBs and the good run blocking the line is doing it makes no sense how much throwing is being done.
A win and a loss...
I know I’m not saying anything new here, but I wanted to say it anyway. Last night felt like a win and a loss. Finally, and so unexpectedly, it felt like we were back to rooting for our team at our seats in LOS. It never felt so good to jump up and down and scream and then have the team respond. Emotionally, it felt like a win, even though I knew once the Steelers got the ball back with a little more than two minutes, it was essentially over.
A couple of things:
1) Again, not anything new, but Collins can’t get the job done. You can’t fix old, and you can’t fix his slow and busted wind up and release. Painter should start.
2) Painter just needs experience. He knows the offense and that 80 yard drive made me a believer.
3) Our defense needs to play like that every game for us to have a chance to win. Period. If they don’t….we lose. It’s a flip from every other year. All the offense has to do is not lose the game and we win next week.
One huge note….
Thank you, thank you, thank you to those season ticket holders who did not sell their seats last night, and F – you to those who are to blame for idiot Steelers fans sitting in all around me. It makes me sick to know that the people I high five at every game when Peyton throws a bomb are the same that bailed out for another teams fans to sit in their seats. To the real 12th man who screamed with me last night….GO COLTS!!!
Not that I am big fan of Painter…but didn’t he also check out of called plays with success. He made the right check and took what the defense gave him. The sack fumble, completely Castonzo’s fault. Collins is too slow.
still partially painter's fault, he held it too long
but i’m on the painter bandwagon after backing kerry up til this point. collins has showed little to no improvement and the offense looked more like the colts with painter out there. it is vital that he actually makes throws but i was surprised at his play calling ability.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
A lot of promise for the future
You can obviously see their is awful lot of talent on this football team. Anyone who says otherwise clearly knows nothing about football.
1. Drake Nevis – What a player this rookie is turning out to be.
2. Pat Angerer – Played in his natural position at MLB and it showed w/21 tackles.(12/9)
3. Pat McAfee – Too bad you can’t get 3 points for making it through the uprights on kickoffs. Also had a touchdown saving tackle- AGAIN.
4. Joe Addai – Really showed why the Colts have faith in their Pro Bowl running back. Oustanding blitz pick-up and averaged 5.1ypc.
5. Freeney and Mathis – Very effective last night at creating TO’s. Though 3rd downs were somewhat of a mystery. Freeney also was playing hurt. All Heart that guy.
6. Painter – The Purdue grad looked good on the game tying scoring drive. With more consistency he may assume the starting role over Collins.
Some things that need attention.
1. 3rd down defense – All night Big Ben had all the time in the world to find his receivers, which is somewhat odd considering how well the DE played.
2. 3rd down offense – WAY too many 3 in outs. Consistency desperately needed.
3. Special team coverage – While the kicks were good, tackling was not. Antonio Brown was able to give the Steelers very solid returns.
4. Play calling – I thought some of the run calls were very predictable. The Colts need to do a better job of concealing when they are going to run. Pass out off run formations and run out of pass formations.
5. Stable quarterback play.
6. The secondary – While Lefeged made a nice INT, the DBs were chewed up for 364yds and 67.6 completion pct, as well as 9.8y/a – That is not good. I was actually surprised the Steelers were not going for it every time on 4th down.
7. Red zone penalty – You can’t have holding calls when you are inside the 5 yd line
Lots of promise for the franchise once 18 returns. I’m sure Manning was in the booth thinking how great they would be with Manning having that running game.
the redzone holding call was absolute bollocks.
not to mention three straight uncalled false starts on the steelers RT on their final drive.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
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Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
THe helmet hit on Collins was a crazy no call that couldve been point on the board
and Im surprised no ones mentioned that Peyton was doing the play calling upstairs so neither QB were even as good as they looked and the one game we almost win Peytons back calling the shots if only he was making the throws we wouldve blown them out
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