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Recap Of The Bill Polian Show: Week 3, 2011

After Bill Polian's meltdown on the radio following the Colts now-infamous handling of the Week Sixteen game against the New York Jets in 2009, the Colts have blocked the call-in radio program named 'The Bill Polian Show' from Internet listeners. This show features Colts vice chairman Bill Polian, and it allows regular Colts fans to call-in and ask him questions which he, frequently, gets annoyed answering. It is the only Colts content that is not streamed live on the net. Thus, because Colts fans outside the Indianapolis area cannot listen in on the show, we provide highlights from the program, which often include Bill Polian saying things he later claims he did not say. However, since the Colts and Mr. Polian do not provide fans or media with recordings of the show, you'll just have to take our word that what we write below is indeed what Mr. Polian actually said. Hope you enjoy.

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The Colts are 0-3 and their season is spiraling down the toilet. Yet, if you were'nt an out-of-market fan and listened to Colts vice chairman Bill Polian on his radio show tonight this evening, he sounded pretty upbeat! The highlights of the show featured Bill Polian talking about Peyton Manning's health, the status of Kerry Collins, and how Pat Angerer played 'out of this world' Sunday night.

Oh, and Bill also took some shots at 'people who recite mantras,' because, you know, Bill likes to insult random, nameless people for no reason whatsoever.

Here are the highlights:

  • Polian said the Colts did 'tremendous amount of good things' against Steelers. He singled out play of front seven and the linebackers in particular. Pat Angerer played 'out of this world,' earning 20 tackles. 20 tackles is the NFL is 'unheard of,' said Polian.
  • When talking about the run defense, Polian took at shot at 'people who like to recite mantras,' referring to the old 'run the ball-stop the run' cliche. Never mind that teams who can run the ball and stop the run often kill the Colts in the playoffs pretty much every year. Bill wanted to use last night's game as an example of how the Colts ran the ball and stopped the run, but lost.
  • Polian said there were too many dropped passes last night. The WRs and QBs need 'better timing.'

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  • Polian praised the play of Joseph Addai and Delone Carter, especially in blitz pick-up. Said he didn't know how Addai managed to pick-up Troy Polamalu on one play in, I believe, the first quarter.
  • Polian said Donald Brown is a good player, and will get more touches as season progresses. FYI everyone, Brown was relegated to scout team duty this week. He did not play against Steelers.
  • Polian gushed over Drake Nevis. Called him 'a keeper.'
  • Polian said the sack-fumble on Curtis Painter in the fourth quarter was not Painter's fault. I've watched play. It's a seven-step drop and the play is designed to get the ball out quick. Painter held it. Sure, Anthony Castonzo didn't contain James Harrison. But, few (if any) LTs can hold off that guy for long. Ball has to come out quicker. Castonzo is not blameless, but neither is Painter.
  • Polian said Collins felt better tonight than he did last night. However, his current status is 'uncertain.'
  • Bob Lamey asked Polian to address the comments Jim Irsay made earlier today about Peyton's health. Lamey stated that Irsay was misquoted (in reality, he wasn't). Poian answered by saying Peyton is not in 'rehabilitation mode.' He is in 'recovery mode.' 'Nothing has changed' regarding Peyton and his injury status.
  • Polian went on to say 'I have chosen not to speculate' regarding when Peyton will return. I kind of took this as a bit of a shot at Jim Irsay since he was the only one speculating on Peyton's health yesterday. Irsay's quote was, 'I don't see him coming back this year.' No one else other than him was really speculating. People were just reporting what Irsay had said in front of a bunch of rich, fat cat donors.
  • Polian: Doctors say there is 'no magic potion' that will make Manning neck nerve regenerate.
  • Polian said Dallas Clark did a good job blocking most of the night. This was in response to a caller asking why Clark was blocking Harrison one-on-one, without help, on running downs.
  • In an odd exchange regarding the play of the special teams, Polian answered a caller by saying that because margin of error is small for this Colts team, it's not a good idea to 'gamble' on special teams. When you have the better team, there's no reason to gamble. Just do what you do.
  • When asked if punter Pat McAfee would be the back-up QB if Collins were out and Painter started next week, Polian said no. Colts would have 'someone else' play the back-up spot, suggesting the team would sign another QB.
  • Polian said Tampa Bay quarterback Josh Freeman looks like Jim Plunkett. The Bucs defense is a mirror of Colts defense.

Hope you enjoyed this write-up. We try and do it every week considering that, you know, the Colts seem to hate their out-of-market fans by not broadcasting this lovely show on the Internets. Thanks for reading.

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Kyle DeVan

Why was Kyle DeVan cut? He is now STARTING for Philidelphia. Why would anybody get cut from our O Line that is good enough to start on another team? Most of our other guys probably couldn’t even make any other NFL practice squad!

by BieberFever on Sep 26, 2011 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Kyle DeVan

He got blown up against the Giants, the whole Eagles O-line did. DeVan couldn’t block anyone, but then again, the Giants front 7 is pretty vicious

by KBUnitz on Sep 26, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

was gonna reply the same thing

The Eagles o-line has been terrible. Him starting does not make him a beast. For what it’s worth, BieberFever, the Eagles aren’t actually the “Dream Team” in case you haven’t noticed. lol

by ColtKing on Sep 27, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I was upset about losing DeVan until I saw him play in the Eagles-Giants game Sunday…..he was beyond terrible. I saw him completely whiff on multiple blocks, which as a guard is ridiculous. As much as I can’t believe I’m typing this, Pollak is the better player, and DeVan isn’t even a serviceable backup anymore.

"We don't worry about the pennant much, we just like to see the boys hit it deep."

by beasleymachine on Sep 27, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the change in scenery didn't agree with him

but in their time here, Devan has always looked like the better player. Pollak looked good (feels strange to type that) vs. Pittsburgh but one game doesn’t erase all the bad games that came before.

by FatDT on Sep 27, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed!

If Rietz and Pollack play up 75% as well as they did against the Steelers consistently I will forget about DeVan.

by dave1251 on Sep 27, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey.

You’re a little late, buddy.

Coltsider.com - Staff Writer

by Stew Blake on Sep 27, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just do what you do....

on special teams? I don’t understand the whole comment regarding special teams. What’s he trying to say?

by Ayrshire on Sep 26, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's what he said

The caller noted that the Steelers had about 40 yards between their first line and second line on kickoff returns, and was the though ever there to just pooch it right over the first line and catch them off-guard.

Polian said that they would only consider such a move when they’re margin for error was larger, or when they knew they could score 20 points offensively. Since they have such a small margin for error, they become more “conservative”.

This answer is the complete opposite of what the strategy should be. When you are not the better team (like the Colts were last night), you have to take calculated risks to try and level the playing field. Remember the onside kick in the Super Bowl? Remember how the Colts were a touchdown favorite in that game? When you are the better team, you don’t need trickery or gimmicks or anything. You just line up and beat down your opponent.

It obviously could be complete conjecture, knowing that future opponents could hear it, and making it so any gambles would really be surprise. But I really think he meant this, and it’s quite concerning and telling. Sigh.

Creator and developer of the Winning Stats.

by mgrex03 on Sep 26, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Yes, unfortunately I do

remember the onside kick in the super bowl. Thanks for the explanation mgrex03.

by Ayrshire on Sep 26, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Remember how the Colts were a touchdown favorite in that game?”

That means BS. And in my book, Colts were underdogs, even without refs cheating.

by Ty46 on Sep 27, 2011 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im Glad

BBS listens to this show because I can’t stand to hear Polians voice. Polian and Caldwell say the same thing over and over and over and over and….

Time Out

TimeOut

by Jim"TimeOut"Caldwell on Sep 26, 2011 8:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   3 recs

After Bill Polian's meltdown.

Thanks for the reminder, week after week. Sounds just like Caldwell and Polian…

by BlueLagoon_18 on Sep 26, 2011 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

just a question BBS

if this is only played on local AM/FM radio, how are you able to listen to it live?

Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB

by danorocks17 on Sep 26, 2011 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Or

Maybe FOX 59 played it without Colts consent.

Look, I know the ESPN and SB Nation have made requests for clips of show, and been denied. Maybe FOX has some sort of BS deal with the Colts to use certain select clips. Don’t know.

And I’m able to listen to it live because I have secret listening device in Bill Polian’s office.

SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.

by Brad Wells on Sep 26, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

my questions came off shitty

I wasn’t intending to interrogate you, I was just curious

Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB

by danorocks17 on Sep 26, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, on my FM Radio

I usually have to suffer through a bad country song before it starts…

Creator and developer of the Winning Stats.

by mgrex03 on Sep 27, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Donald Brown

did play, he was on the hands team that came out at on Pittsburgh´s final kick off.

not exactly a starring role.

by Jamison1 on Sep 26, 2011 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

He was in on Pittsburgh's first kickoff...

after the scored a field goal in the opening quarter. He promptly missed his block.

That’s him two yards behind his assignment.

Here he is again on the same play, still totally out of position to make a block:

by Yougotme on Sep 27, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Donald Brown on blocking duties...

after Pittsburgh scored the touchdown in the first quarter:

It’s looking like he’ll fit right in on Colts special teams – no ability to block.

by Yougotme on Sep 27, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

This series of posts

Just makes me laugh. Brown looks so inept chasing after white jerseys trying to be relevant.

by FatDT on Sep 27, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Curiously, the above "transcript" hasn't been corrected...

to reflect the error.

Ironically, my intelligence was questioned in another thread by the author…

by Yougotme on Sep 27, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

a few things

could we have a bit less of an edge to this coverage? BBS i wish you would just report on the show and refrain or dial back the little digs. we all know how you feel.
dont we have a QB on our practice squad (hartline)? if so, we do have a backup, we dont need to find anyone else. not saying this is a good place to be, but…
2nd or third show in a row bill polian could not remember names. “that player from Syracuse” = Delone Carter. cant be a big plus on draft day or when scanning the waiver wire. maybe THAT explains a few things…

by Bluetime on Sep 26, 2011 10:13 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Answer

could we have a bit less of an edge to this coverage? BBS i wish you would just report on the show and refrain or dial back the little digs. we all know how you feel. No. some people like the ‘edge.’ If you don’t, you can either deal with it, or read another blog. Don’t assume you speak for all readers here.

SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.

by Brad Wells on Sep 26, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Edge is fine

but you take things too personally. It really takes away from the site. I find myself looking to see who authors the posts and if it’s you, sometimes I don’t even read it.

Why does every post have to bash Polian, Jerry Hughes or Donald Brown? You could almost make the argument that this site has become mostly about those 3 individuals.

I like the site but think it could be much better. I bet if you conducted a pole, most would agree that you are too biased.

by FatFinger on Sep 26, 2011 10:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Whenever I have tried to conduct a pole the person on it wants money.

"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."

by PV Mike on Sep 26, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont mind

The edge at all just would like it combined with more football knowledge

I'd donate a kidney in exchange for Pdiddy and my colts to get 2 more Super Bowl rings...That's LUV

by Bama Blue on Sep 26, 2011 10:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dont take things personally BBS

Blutime was just askin a question and suggesting something. If you don’t agree fine, but i feel that you take stuff like that very personally, relax bro

by fanatik on Sep 27, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

For those of you who prefer less "edge"...

You can read a transcription from the show on Colts.com…see my post below.

"Without data, all you are is just another person with an opinion."
"This machine kills fascists" (slogan painted on Woody Guthrie's guitar)

by Via_Chicago on Sep 27, 2011 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

no shout out from the indy star this week? haha

In all seriousness, thanks for posting the updates for us out of townies. It’s appreciated.

But perhaps next time you feel like bashing the polians, hughes, brown or whoever else you feel like calling a hack that day, just take a breath and ask yourself..have i already made this same point 13 times before? If the answer is yes, maybe find a different point to make.

by coltsfan89 on Sep 26, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Very well said

It gets very repeditive. Meanwhile, there are other topics that could be discussed.

by FatFinger on Sep 26, 2011 11:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe they took my suggestion to heart

And dug round in the break room sofa for enough change to buy an AM radio at Goodwill.

by FatDT on Sep 27, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

If Collins can’t go, who do you guys think they pick up to be the backup QB? I would suspect Hartline from the PS.

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't."
- Jack Dempsey

by infinityzero.systemerror on Sep 26, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

One things for sure,

whoever plays QB for us can’t be any worse than Rex Grossman.

by Ayrshire on Sep 26, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for Tony Romo

RG – 77.5
TR – 70.9

A QB clinic tonight’s game was not.

by ActionOxford on Sep 27, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least one has a hole in his lung as an excuse.

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't."
- Jack Dempsey

by infinityzero.systemerror on Sep 27, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which one was that?

Romo’s lung had healed. Minor occurrences of pnuemothorax can be treated pretty easily and can heal in 2-3 days. If he still had a hole in his lung during the game he wouldn’t have played.

by ActionOxford on Sep 27, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bill wanted to use last night's game as an example of how the Colts ran the ball and stopped the run, but lost.

The Colts had 40 pass plays and only 21 run plays. How can Bill say that. What an idiot. We ran the ball successfully when we ran it, but for some reason they felt it necessary to continue to pass it unsuccessfully. In my opinion if we had a 50/50 split the outcome of the game might have been different. Polian is a dumba** for even making that statement.

by Colts Forever on Sep 27, 2011 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

For the record, I have been on BBS about his bashings before

but on this one i agree: It is ridiculous that Bill Polian (i know it’s not chris. Chris is a talking machine who would seem to not care about such things) decided to ban the Polian show outside of the local market. Makes absolutely NOOOOOOOO sense from a business standpoint or otherwise. BBS is right on that one. Used to listen to the show way back when and enjoyed it, personally.

by ColtKing on Sep 27, 2011 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Straight from the horse's...mouth

If you’d like the “unfiltered” version of the BP Show, a transcript of it is posted on the Colts’ official website. It’s usually posted a couple days after the show airs…check under the “News” section of the site.

I can’t say for sure if it’s the entire show or if it’s transcribed word-for-word, but it seems pretty accurate to me…in some cases it seems to be a much more accurate account of what was said than what I’ve heard/read elsewhere…

"Without data, all you are is just another person with an opinion."
"This machine kills fascists" (slogan painted on Woody Guthrie's guitar)

by Via_Chicago on Sep 27, 2011 6:24 AM EDT reply actions  

How accurate?

My impression was that it is an edited version. As in you won’t find him forgetting who his draft picks are. Hard to compare without a recording.

by FatDT on Sep 27, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um...yes you will find that there...

My impression is that what’s posted is accurate. For instance, here’s the question & answer regarding the draft picks…

Q: Who is really responsible for all the number one draft picks we choose?
A: Well, I’m responsible. I don’t know how far back you want to go and I’d have to…help me out on this Bob (asks host Bob Lamey for the list since 2005)…Donald Brown, Jerry Hughes. Neither of them have made a mark at this point so criticism there is certainly warranted.

That’s what he said…exactly what he said, I know b/c I was listening and was particularly interested in the question. If it’s edited, it appears to me that it’s the questions that are edited and that seems to be mostly for clarity.

"Without data, all you are is just another person with an opinion."
"This machine kills fascists" (slogan painted on Woody Guthrie's guitar)

by Via_Chicago on Sep 27, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Polian is the biggest fucking tool

I’m sure he knew full well that Manning was going to be out for the whole season

Did he really think Collins could get us into the playoffs? If he does/did, he’s delusional and a spastic

Collins will win us 5 games at best

Painter will win us 2 games at best

So Polian thinks 3 more victories is worth the 4 million dollar contract he gave Collins?

Since there’s no way we’re getting into the playoffs, he should’ve just played Painter the whole season

by manningtoharrison on Sep 27, 2011 8:01 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

At this point, saying that Collins is worth 3 more wins than Painter is a bit of a stretch. This is Painter’s third year in the system compared to a month for Collins. I would’ve rather the Colts just kept Orlovsky, and spent the 4 million on secondary depth. I think Painter can be serviceable to get us through the season. But, all this talk of Bulger, etc… is getting out of hand. Why keep putting band-aids on a severed head? Let painter take all the reps in practice and see how he progresses. Maybe we will get “Lucky.”

by deedubbadoo on Sep 27, 2011 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

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