Colts Working Out Quarterbacks Dan Orlovsky, Brodie Croyle
The Indianapolis Star is reporting that the Colts have two Quarterbacks in their facility today for a workout, and one is a familiar name from Training Camp:
Sources says #Colts are working out QB Dan Orlovsky and Brodie Croyle today as they consider roster addition.
So let the speculation begin on who will no longer be on the roster. I'm a believer that Peyton Manning will not be placed on IR at any point this season, even if it ultimately wastes a roster spot all season. That's why you hear Colts owner Jim Irsay say he may start practicing in December, just so people can hope to see their favorite Colts suit up and play in the season's final month, even though he absolutely shouldn't play in meaningless games (he never has before).
That means that if one of these guys is signed, the Colts will have four QBs on the active roster, something I'm not sure anyone has done before.
We could see somebody who is already injured placed on Injured Reserve, such as Ernie Sims or Melvin Bullitt, but I'm thinking they'll stay on the active roster. Neither injury seems that long-term. The Colts have had Kevin Thomas inactive all three weeks, and Chris Rucker inactive once. So, we could see a move like what happened with Darren Evans, going to Practice Squad, for one of those guys for a week or two. Could be one of the Defensive Ends (I'm guessing not Jerry Hughes).
We should find out soon enough. Certainly seems as though Curtis Painter will get his first NFL start on Monday Night Football though.
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How is Garrard not being considered?
Dude gave the Colts tons of problems and did pretty well in Jax with one of, if not the, worst receiving corps in the league.
by BenD on Sep 27, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Cap Space
No money for Garrard. Garrard isn’t going to ask for nothing.
agreed
That’s why I feel like he hasn’t been signed. He is a very good backup, but just an average to below-average starter. He probably wants starter money.
by coltsfanbeforemanning on Sep 27, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
My, how far we have fallen so quickly
While the FO is acting calm about everything, I bet it is a chaotic fire drill inside.
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."
they seem calm
because they already know that the season is done
More time wasted..
Any other QB is just going to have the same problem Kerry has..trying to learn the system. I don’t see much more this team can do as far a QB goes. Brodie Croyle wasn’t a bad QB when he played for Bama but you are asking him to pick up on the system rather quickly if you sign him. I think all of this highlights one key issue! They never thought that they would need a solid back up behind Peyton…and well… now, we clearly see they do. Unfortunately, it’s to late. I believe its too late to have a good QB learn our system for this season, and too late to save this season. We are kinda forced to jump on the Painter Wagon are we not?
by Dalton Pate on Sep 27, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think...
Kerry has more problems than “learning the system”. His release, lack of vision, pocket awareness, accuracy etc… are the problem.
Painter it is. Let’s see what he can do with a full start and a meaningful game. It’s could be another disaster but where the offense is currently at (running game hesitantly excluded), anything is an improvement.
29th overall offense in the league (27th in the pass, 28th in points, 28th in the red zone, 32nd aka dead last in ypa). Horrid.
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won’t be on the field Monday. Cody Grimm, a starting safety, and very important to the Bucs defense suffered a knee injury this week. He was good against the run too. I’m sure Painter will make mincemeat of the Bucs secondary with Grimm out.
by Ayrshire on Sep 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
umm... lol?
I think you forgot to throw that in there. The only thing Painter makes mincemeat out of… is people who believe he is starting QB material.
Painter… sucks… he is probably really intelligent, and knows the system, has good arm strength and accuracy (in practice), but he can’t execute during gametime… I think it will be worse in front of a MNF crowd. This week is probably the last week he will have to prove it. If he doesn’t completely blow Tampa away, and Collins is back healthy he’s not starting the next week (lets be real… even if he manages to be pretty good the Colts FO is stout enough to keep playing Collins), and he will likely be cut next year.
by coltsfanbeforemanning on Sep 27, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
my bad
thought you were serious… whew!
by coltsfanbeforemanning on Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You obviously
haven’t read any of my other comments if you thought I was serious. Like other fans, I’ll be pulling for him. But, if I’m being totally honest, he’s too inaccurate and gets rattled easily. Hope that changes, but I’m not too confident. If I see more passes thrown to receivers that skip off the ground, I may lose it completely. And, I’ll have a front row seat for it, since I’m in Tampa and will be at the game, in my Colts gear of course.
nah
don’t much pay attention to the names… just read the comments and zap away!
Cool that you got front row seats… must have cost a pretty penny although not as much as people pay in IN for front row.
by coltsfanbeforemanning on Sep 27, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Have a great time
I was lucky enough to be in a suite for the Browns game and really enjoyed it . Until the 4th quarter anyhow.
by MrBoJangles46 on Sep 27, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
4 QBs on active roster
Didn’t Tampa do that in Gruden’s last year?
If I remember correctly
Simms
Griese
McCown
Steve DeBerg?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
That was the 4th
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
How Perfect...
would it be if Orlovsky joined the team and we went 0-16. It would be second time for Orlovsky. hahahahah
by KBUnitz on Sep 27, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
So the new rule would be
if you want the #1 draft pick, sign Dan Orlovsky.
Or, you could sign
Brodie Croyle. The Indianapolis Star is saying that he lost all ten starts with the Chiefs. When it comes to back-up QBs, it seems nothing is too good for our boys in blue.
by Ayrshire on Sep 27, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Colts are just wasting time
There is not a QB out there that can save this season. They might as well go with Painter. Its obvious the Colts dont believe in Painter so why did they keep him on the roster.
by SRBradford on Sep 27, 2011 1:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed
don’t know why they want to waste time and $$ on a lost cause of picking up another QB. Let Painter play out the season and get some experience behind him. He wasn’t that bad Sunday and had better timing than KC. Just let the guy play.
by bluecoltsfan on Sep 27, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually adding a 4th is more telling about Collins than Painter
If Collins is hurt and has a concussion he most likely won’t be eligible to play Monday. It would be ridiculous to go into a game with only 1 QB dressed and able to play
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by brown11b on Sep 27, 2011 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Agree
They should just accept it and tough out the season. Painter and Collins aren’t the answer, but I don’t see how they think signing someone off of the street will help.
Of the two, I’d sign Croyle just so we can see his hot wife again.
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by Guy LeDouche on Sep 27, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
National TV audiences and the networks have to be dying
with the Manningless Colts being featured 2 weeks in a row. I wonder if NBC can replace the Colts/Saints Sunday night game in 4 weeks.
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."
The Colts/Saints game cant be replaced
If it was later in the season it could be replaced. I saw it in the newspaper.
by SRBradford on Sep 27, 2011 1:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Peyton needs to stay on the active roster.
Obviously this season is toast if he’s not playing but if there is any chance he could practice by December, which most reports indicate he should be able to, than the Colts have to keep him so they can evaluate his progress. If they end up with the 1st Pick, then his progress from Surgery will tell a lot about what they’ll do with the Pick. If he’s healthy than I assume they’ll trade the pick to build a great team around him for the last 3 to 4 years of his career. If he isn’t healthy, then they’ll draft Luck and either release Peyton or work some deal to have him retire in like 2 years.
"Roll up, wait a minute
Let me put some kush up in it" - Dr. Dre
by P0RKINS2 on Sep 27, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Why would we need to evaluate Peyton Manning?
Have we not seen enough to know what he can do? Why rush the guy back before he is 100% healthy to play in 2011?
What evaluation in December of 2011 will have any bearing on September of 2012?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
i'm with you
i don’t think we will be able to tell much, Peyton has shown that he takes WEEKS of every snap in practice to be effective, which would be bad for our other QB’s. We all know what he’s capable of. If he doesn’t recover enough to play, I don’t feel like he will play in 2012.
Look at 2008 where he missed all of preseason. He looked pretty average until week 8 when we snapped off 9 wins in a row. If we started him in December, we wouldn’t be be seeing “Peyton”.
by coltsfanbeforemanning on Sep 27, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
This is just to evaluate his progress
Just make sure he can make all the throws
"Roll up, wait a minute
Let me put some kush up in it" - Dr. Dre
by P0RKINS2 on Sep 27, 2011 6:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
This is just to evaluate his progress
Just make sure he can make all the throws and is healing like he should.
"Roll up, wait a minute
Let me put some kush up in it" - Dr. Dre
by P0RKINS2 on Sep 27, 2011 6:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He doesn't need to make any throws until September 2012
Who cares where his arm is December 2011.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Not sure completely....
But if he is put on IR I’m pretty sure he can’t practice with the team at all. Therefore, we keep him on the roster so when he does come back (assuming January) he has 9 months of practicing with the team and building arm strength rather than a couple months during training camp. I don’t know about you but I would like him working with our training staff and coaches for 9 months rather than 3 before putting the neck to the test.
by Blue Horse on Sep 28, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He can rehab with the team while on IR
All it means is that he isn’t eligible to play in any games the rest of the season.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
If they end up with the first pick
And do anything with it BESIDES pick Luck, it s a complete failure.
This is (reportedly) as close to a sure thing that you ever get at QB.
Bret Favre
The Colts would be 2-1 now with Brett.
Just bring him in!
Only Superman could save this season. No Brett Favre
Unfortunately someone slipped some kryptonite around Supermans neck. This season is dead. We root for our team and hope the rookies can really develop for next year.
by SRBradford on Sep 27, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm agreeing, and taking it a step further
We need to IR Manning and Cut/take the cap hit for any Vet who isn’t in the long term plan of the franchise.
I’d like to see us pillage some prospects off of some other teams practice squads and hopefully unearth a couple of undervalued future assets.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Sep 27, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd rather see Kurt Warner
Would like to see what he could do with our receivers
by 18MVP4Life on Sep 27, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I doubt Warner wants to play for anybody
much less the Colts.
Steelers had 4 QB's on the roster at the start of last year IIRC.
While big ben was serving a suspension.
There is no point in keeping Collins anymore
He was brought in allegedly to hold the fort while Manning was out and obviously he wasn’t able to do that. I don’t blame him, the odds were against him. So let’s thank Kerry for trying and move on with Painter. The season is almost lost anyway. If I were Colts I would go with Painter. To be honest I am excited to see Painter because that 80 yard drive was the only one this season when I saw a resemblance of the Colts offense, fumbles and mistakes apart. I’ve been so frustrated to only see drives ending in in the red zone or 3 and outs.
Haha you said "almost" lost
It’s a complete wash, dude. Sorry.
Painter is the only answer
AND I never thought I would say that. You play him for the rest of the year. What is he gonna do, LOSE?? And you have him start and get real, valuable playing time and maybe he’ll actually develop as a viable back-up option. If he shows us what we all already think we know, then you absolutely cut him at the end of the year and start over. Collins is here because we thought we could have a chance with him. We obviously don’t. Painter HAS to play (but he won’t whenever Kerry is healthy.)
For cripes sakes................
Season is out the window, Colts have couple of years invested in Painter. Painter has had almost no reps in practices since he signed his rookie contract. Give Painter his reps, and play him until he plays himself into the two slot, or onto the street. The guy has an NFL arm from what I can see, and what he is lacking can be gained with reps in practice and games that are considered lost by most anyway. Give the kid a legitimate shot.
I agree that we need to give Painter his shot. Maybe last week was nerves. Remember that Peyton went 3-13 his first season. At some point, you have to find out what he brings to the table.
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Don't waste your time
Comparing Painter to Manning. I mean, I know you’re really not, but even uttering the phrase, “Remember Peyton [insert fact here]” when thinking of what Painter can be isn’t fair to either party and is a complete waste of time.
I know that he is not the answer but
I was a fan of Brodie Croyle when he was coming out of College. Don’t know a ton about him but I would like to see a young guy step in and possibly grow to be our future QB, maybe Croyle.
4 qbs
it been done? Yes, Tom Brady’s rookie year, the Pats had 4 QBs on their active roster. Brady was in the 4th position on the depth chart.
1) Brady was a 6th round pick from a Big Ten school
2) Brady was inserted into his first real game in the 4th qtr after an injury to Bledsoe (a veteran QB with a solid but not great career), and lost the game
3) Brady put up crappy numbers in his first couple of starts following that game…though he did whip the Colts, and then lost the following game badly
4) Brady has had long hair
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by ruascott on Sep 27, 2011 4:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
where
Is billy ‘freaking’ volek when you need him?
by ruascott on Sep 27, 2011 4:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The only reason to do this is that Collins is likely done...
Either because he had a concussion and said f-it I want out or his health actually prevents him from playing for the rest of the season. Do the old man a favor and cut him and let him retire.
Painter needs to play the rest of the season – either he’s your backup QB of the future or he’s gone. Either way, figure it out now before the draft.
Im on the Painter train
I think if he gets some real playing time he will be a decent QB. He has talent its just not been exploited.
by mestman on Sep 27, 2011 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
we shall see
I’m interested to see what he can do with a full week as the #1 guy.
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