2011 NFL Roster Cuts: Final Cuts For The Indianapolis Colts
by Brad Wells on Sep 3, 2011 6:29 PM EDT
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PrintIt's 6:00 p.m. Eastern, and the cuts are in. These men are now former-Colts players:
DE John Chick
QB Dan Orlovsky
WR Taj Smith
OG Kyle DeVan
FS Al Afalava
WR Chris Brooks
TE Tyson DeVree
DT John Gill
More after the jump...
CB Brandon King
LB Kerry Neal
DT Ollie Ogbu
OT Mike Tepper
The Colts also activated Blair White from the P.U.P.
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this move makes me
an angry panda
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Who's Going to Block?
Almost no depth and it means Pollak starts at guard. If one guy goes down Richard comes in. If I was Peyton I would go out !!!!!!
I agree
if I was Peyton, I’d sit out the season. Wait… What?
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so Gonzalez made it!
be interesting to see if he is able to play.
recent history..
tells us he’s good for atleast 3 quarters of a game this year. So, we got that going for us… which is nice.
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by coldy4goldy on Sep 3, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Marlin Jackson waived by the Eagles.
Obviously an injury question, but he’d definitely be welcome back.
Antoine Bethea - the most underrated safety in the NFL.
Would shore up Safety depth
I really hope he comes back…
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— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Sep 3, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just what the colts need
another injury prone safety…..
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 3, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Better than Francisco all over again
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Wha..??
Harris, McClendon, Devan, and Taj are cut?
Gonzo and Brown are still with the team?
I’m kind of shocked. I thought for sure our lack of quality OL depth would make Jacques untouchable for another season, and that Taj would be Gonzo’s replacement.
Gonzo must be healthy
Sitting him out in preseason must have been more precautionary than anything. He definitely has a good relationship with Peyton, but will most likely hit the IR as soon as it appears he will miss a game.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
If he’s healthy and the benching was precautionary, awesome. You’ll get no complaints from me during the season. But if he’s really hurt and we kept him anyway…
He still runs a 4.4 and has great route abilities
I can guarantee that a healthy Gonzo is better than any WR the Colts cut and probably any WR on waivers. Add to that he has chemistry with the QB and I think you had to make that call. He does get injured a lot, but if the Colts cut him, he was going to get picked up and make a difference on another team even if it was only for the first 3-4 weeks of the season. He is worth the risk IMHO. IR him again if he gets hurt and pick up someone else. Otherwise I don’t really see a better option. He hasn’t been PUP’d so they must expect him back early. These decisions have to be about business and not personal grievances from the past.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
At first look
Cutting Harris looks bad, and after how well he played it looks worse but….i really believe he was hurt and would not be worth keeping
THIS_IS_HIM
by J-ROC on Sep 3, 2011 6:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
no that was him
that’s how we managed to get him in the first place
The Indianapolis Colts are going to be the 1st team to win a super bowl in their own stadium. 'nuff said.
So the full roster then - (sorry for the long post)
Addai, Joseph RB
Anderson, Jamaal DE
Angerer, Pat LB
Bethea, Antoine DB
Brackett, Gary LB
Brayton, Tyler DE
Brown, Donald RB
Bullitt, Melvin DB
Caldwell, David DB
Carter, Delone RB
Castonzo, Anthony T
Clark, Dallas TE
Collie, Austin WR
Collins, Kerry QB
Conner, Kavell LB
Diem, Ryan T
Eldridge, Brody TE
Evans, Darren RB
Foster, Eric DT
Freeney, Dwight DE
Garcon, Pierre WR
Gonzalez, Anthony WR
Hughes, Jerry DE
Ijalana, Ben T
Johnson, Antonio DT
Johnson, Terrence DB
Lacey, Jacob DB
Lefeged, Joe DB
Linkenbach, Jeff T
Manning, Peyton QB
Mathis, Robert DE
McAfee, Pat P
McNeill, Mike TE
Moala, Fili DT
Moten, Adrian LB
Nevis, Drake DT
Painter, Curtis QB
Pollak, Mike OG
Powers, Jerraud DB
Reitz, Joe T
Richard, Jamey OG
Rucker, Chris DB
Saturday, Jeff C
Sims, Ernie LB
Snow, Justin TE
Spann, Chad RB
Tamme, Jacob TE
Thomas, Kevin DB
Tryon, Justin DB
Vinatieri, Adam K
Wayne, Reggie WR
Wheeler, Philip LB
White, Blair WR
How did Manning make it on the roster?
All he does is get injured and have surgeries. He didn’t take one snap in the preseason. An he costs us so much money against the cap. I thought we brought in Collins to replace him? Oh well.
by Coltsdude1000 on Sep 3, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Seriously
How many TDs did Manning throw in the preseason? Oh yea, it was 0!!
Orlovsky gets cut but we keep a guy who doesn’t even practice? Geesh. Obviously this is another one of Polian’s moves because he’s afraid to admit he screwed up in the first round of the draft. Chalk up another awful move by the Colts. I just hope we can win a game. Playoffs?
Questions
McNeil? Spann? Richard? Terrence Johnson?
Not sure how they made the team
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McNeill
need 4 TEs. Could take Tamme’s #3 spot by the end of the year. The guy is an amazing receiving TE. Didn’t he play WR for NU early on?
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
he is not amazing
i dont know where you got that. i believe he played te, then they moved him to wr and that failed and then the put him back to te
the guy is an average te
I watch a lot of Husker football here is SoDak
He is much better than his stats will show. He runs great routes and has made lots of big plays in the seam like DC does. I had forgotten which way he was first, but I looked it up and you’re right, they moved him to WR. He doesn’t drop balls is fast and runs good routs Again, I think he is overlooked because he played for NU which isn’t known for throwing the ball lately. He hold their TE yards and catches records for a season.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
unfortunately
i watch a lot of nebraska football as well. and i think mcneil will be ok. nowhere near amazing.
he is better than tamme though
Pretty stout statement considering what Tamme did last year.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 3, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not really
tamme is a very overrated player
Overrated?!?!
Ok PM threw him the ball. That said he shown “his” talents when it was thrown to him ie… catching it, running with it, and scoring TDS. Tamme has been a prime example of competence . He has skills man he performs when called upon. He also looked decent in the pre season. Tamme could actually be of trade value to sure up a few spots(you decide). But hey thats your opinion as this is mine.
"Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude."
by blue31 on Sep 3, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's all I was saying
that he would probably beat out Tamme. Not saying he will be a pro bowler, but definitely worthy of a roster spot.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Terrence Johnson...
He actually caught my eye in a few of the preseason games. Plays physical jamming the WRs and closed pretty quickly once the ball was thrown. He looked better than Jacob Lacey for sure. He may be a candidate for the practice squad if we find other players off the waiver wire.
Good to hear
Physicality out of the CB unit is something I would like to see
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Devan?
Do they ever explain these cuts? That would make for a good PPV for charity – shove the Colts brass into a room for one hour with three decent reporters to “discuss” some of this. I’m in for $10 bucks so long as it’s an open forum.
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by indylator on Sep 3, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I wish they didn't tease us with Tommie Harris
by codrutc on Sep 3, 2011 6:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I thought he played well. Apparently he was cut due to ego, which is the height of irony for a Colt D-lineman.
Surely after getting cut by da bears, his ego must have shrivelled up... it couldnt
have just inflated back that quickly, could it?
I guess you need a lot of RBs
when you keep a bunch of sorry OLineman who’ll get them all hurt.
Why would it get deleted?
It’s a simplistic argument, IMHO, but you articulated it well and didn’t call anyone a fuckhead. In fact, I even recced it.
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Little update on comments
I know many of us are emotional about certain players we liked getting cut. It’s natural. Please note that degrading or demeaning others for their opinions is not tolerated here. If you think management is a bunch of dumb f*cks for cutting Tommie Harris, that’s cool. If you think management was smart to cut him, that’s cool too.
Just don’t insult, demean, or belittle the opposing person or persons. That’s all.
Thanks for commenting. Keep it up.
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I obey the Fuhrer I shall not question the mighty Manning
I'm a brony and proud of it.
by wimpiam on Sep 4, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not sure dude, but if he aint
just plain sucking stupid.
by chihoosierguy on Sep 3, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
In the past, looks like he was injured:
2006 – knee injury
2007 – injured week 3
2008 – punched Lutui in the face, ejected
2010 – Benched after second week of the season
CHESTER TAYLOR !
We should go pick him up, but it will never happen !
that equates to 0.7 ypc behind this line
by GonzoBlue on Sep 3, 2011 8:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The only real WTF is Richard.
Some players I don’t agree with, but it’s not the end of the world or anything. I still look for some moves in the coming days.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 3, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions
And Pollock?
His pre-season play was laughable. I literally saw him whiff a block, and then just stand there and shrug his shoulders as the QB was chased out of the pocket.
Pollock as a backup ....whatever.
I don’t think he’s that much better than DeVan and McClendon, or that much worse. I don’t see the hate here. Is he a starter, no. Is there anyone who clearly whipped his ass…no. Plus he did an ok job as the back up C. I am a little dissapointed in McClendon. He was given every opportunity and never seized the day.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 3, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Y'know, maybe it's the pom-poms speaking
but I’m not as upset as I was a half hour ago. I’m seeing more and more indications that Harris wasn’t setting a good example in the locker room, which I can understand the Colts wary of considering they have a young, talented, impressionable guy like Nevis.
And really, with the dearth of talented OLinemen on this team, did it really matter who we cut?
My only disappointment is that we kept Brown. Gonzo, IF healthy, would give us killer depth at WR, but Brown has had his chance.
HOPE SO
99% of us are sick of seeing BAD FOOTBALL from him
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Sep 3, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Did 99% of ppl miss the Packers game?
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
From the second quarter on, he’s was solid. I wish we could’ve seen more of him vs the Bengals to see if it was an aberration.
I don't disagree with you there
Even first quarter though, he made some nice throws but WRs had some drive killing drops. Let’s not forget that Packers are a top 5 (and maybe even top 3) defense. He doesn’t have a large body of work for us to look at and with the confidence everyone around him seems to have, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt for now. As BBS would say, I’m drinking the Painter kool-aid.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
One half decent quarter in 3 years
Should not be worth a roster spot.
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by EVLGNUS on Sep 3, 2011 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What other opportunities has he had?
First time he ever had been given a game plan and starting WRs. (Still was w/o Collie and Gonzo.) And really? Do you cut him after the best performance of his career against a very good defense?!
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Yeah, you're right
Green Bay should have cut Aaron Rodgers when he first stepped in.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
by indylator on Sep 3, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Clearly, its the poms-poms talking
j/k
Seriously, I often need happy, cheerful posts to help me find a small morsel of hope in roster decisions like these.
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who do you think they will pick up from other teams???
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Sep 3, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone on Twitter
Is telling me Colts pursuing Brandon Meriweather.
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that is your next article?????
A list of possible players they may get from other teams
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Sep 3, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
thad be nice
The Indianapolis Colts are going to be the 1st team to win a super bowl in their own stadium. 'nuff said.
ya i seen multiple reports...
as well as the Lions too
"Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude."
meriweather
is a mistake. colts shouldnt go after him. we are fine with caldwell and lefeged
ya i think so too. Lefedge is gonna be somebody watch!
"Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude."
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Take him, he’s yours.
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When can they begin signing other players anyway?
by lakecountycolt on Sep 3, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
According to ESPN - (cc'd from their site)
Surprise moves: Tommie Harris seemed to play well enough to stick, but the former first-round defensive tackle apparently wanted to be treated like the team’s top defensive linemen and the team didn’t like the attitude. Defensive end John Chick had solid games but couldn’t get past Jerry Hughes. Undrafted rookie tight end Mike McNeill made it, as did four others who were not April selections: running backs Darren Evans and Chad Spann, linebacker Adrian Moten and safety Joe Lefeged.
If you’re right about Harris then Harrison from Chicago is a no way. I guess Olshansky is the best available DT option.
by lakecountycolt on Sep 3, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Devan deserved to make it he is a very good backup
and Hughes and Brown better show something, and once we know Peyton is healthy, please get rid of CP they do not need 3 QBs can use that spot for someone else,, glad Blair White is healthy,, he will improve and can return punts- I trust him back there- no fumbles!!!
Practice Squad
Any word on the full practice squad???
PS
So far, Ogbu and Mike Hartline to PS. That’s unofficial.
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I would think you could add Kirkpatrick, Gill, and either Brooks and/or Gilreath.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 3, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Ogbu, Hartline, kirkpatrick, brooks, and gilreath would be solid
probably another OL, TE(DeVree?), and another DB to round it out.
Tampa waived Ahmad Brooks. I’d like him. Maybe for the 53 man.
by GonzoBlue on Sep 3, 2011 9:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ahhh...more front office idiocy
Cutting Harris was allegedly because he wanted to be treated like was the best DT and little Jimmy Caldwell didn’t like it. Um…well seeing as he arguably IS our best DT, or can be this season, it kind of makes sense. Another blunder by dumb and dumber (Caldwell, Polian).
And you know what? I understand keeping Hughes. It’s only year two and it’s hard to give up on a guy just after a season (despite his awfulness). And Brown? I’m okay with that too. James I thought was more deserving and Carter is better, but I will not get upset over this one. Still has time to show something (very little time, though). But Pollak…I mean you’ve gotta be f***ing kidding me!!! By far the most deserving player to be cut, and yet he’s still here while the guy who outplayed him, DeVan, is gone!!!
I mean WOW. What a joke.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
by npb1985 on Sep 3, 2011 7:38 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Not sure he was best
Nevis was a lot more effective. Harris was good in the few series he was in. He didn’t get a ton of playing time and there wasn’t a very large body of work to evaluate him on. Maybe the Colts didn’t think his injuries were worthy of missing time and that’s where the ‘entitlement’ questions come in.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Couldn't write anything after reading this.
You took every single word out of my mouth. I agree with this post 110%. Keeping Pollak over DeVan WHAT THE FUCK??!!! SMH and even if T. Harris had an attitude so what, he was our most talented DT and he was only one a 1 year deal.
by kferguson2002 on Sep 4, 2011 6:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Richard and Pollak
must have pulled some huge strings ( crying about those 2)
There was no way they would give up on Hughes yet
I won’t disagree with Brown, but it is too early for Hughes. They would have been torn apart for cutting Hughes at this point. Give him a few regular season games and maybe they’ll put him on waivers and sign Chick from the practice squad (if Chick doesn’t get picked up somewhere else first.)
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Guard
I’ve heard the Colts may go after a veteran guard and their planning on packaging Spann in a trade,
Was White removed from the PUP?
I don’t like that we have two healthy WRs, and three that have been injured…namely Collie, Gonzalez and White.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 3, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions
I thought I read White saying...
he was ready a few weeks ago, then he never came off of the PUP. I think the Colts didn’t think it was worth taking him off the PUP if he couldn’t play catch with Peyton and it gave them a longer look at Gilreath and Brooks. I also think Collie is ready to go, so it’s just Gonzo’s hammy. No way we keep only 5 WR’s if they are uncertain about the health Gonzo, Collie and White.
by G Colt on Sep 4, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Colts roster as of Sept 3, by the numbers
So, before we pick up anyone else off waivers or make any trades, it looks we kept:
3 “specialists” : Snow, McAfee, and AV
3 Quarterbacks: Manning, Collins, and Painter
5 Running backs: Addai, Carter, Brown, Spann, and Evans
4 Tight Ends: Clark, Eldridge, Tamme, McNeill
8 Offensive linemen: Costanzo, Diem, Ijilana, Linkenbach, Pollak, Reitz, Richard, Saturday
9 Defensive linemen: Anderson, Brayton, Foster, Freeney, Hughes, Johnson, Mathis, Moala, Nevis
6 Linebackers: Angerer, Brackett, Conner, Moten, Sims, Wheeler
10 Defensive backs: Bethea, Bullitt, Caldwell, Powers, Lacey, Lefeged, Rucker, Thomas, Tryon, and Terrence Johnson
Initial thoughts:
-As reported, we must be making a move of some sort to pick up an additional player off waivers, and when we do we will move one of those 2 last running backs (Spann or Evans) to the practice squad…..because carrying 5 running backs makes no sense in our system.
-I thought we’d keep 9 OL instead of 8, but keeping 8 is ok if you have enough flexible guys who can change positions if need be. Richard’s flexibility ended up saving him a roster spot, even though I thought he’d be cut. If we end up needing another OL guy at some point, Toudouze or McClendon might return off the street….as I am not positive either of them will end up on someone else’s roster.
-Keeping McNeill surprised me some as a 4th tight end, but that seems to indicate that we will run more 2TE packages early in the season that normal and need him for depth, plus our staff seems to like him.
-Despite the outcries from a few on this site, we HAD to keep 3 quarterbacks this year with Manning’s health in question and Collins being new here plus a statue in the pocket. If you only kept 2, that would have been a guaranteed indicator that Manning was 100% ready to go, which is clearly not the case yet. I don’t know that we will keep 3 quarterbacks all season, but for now we clearly had to do that.
-Painter vs Orlavsky battle was interesting but basically irrevelant to our success….neither of them are any good. Painter is in reality better I think but that is damning with faint praise.
-Despite cutting Tommie Harris, our defensive line I think might be the strength of our team. Hughes and Foster both can play special teams, which I think made them more valuable than Harris in the end. Plus, any snaps Harris would have played would have probably meant Drake Nevis wasn’t playing…..and in my mind we need to get that young man on the field more, not less.
-I really liked Chris Brooks and hope he can make the practice squad. I know Taj Smith showed some speed occasionally but he is a reciever who can’t catch the ball well….despite what I heard on talk radio the last few days, I thought he was an obvious cut.
-How good is Terrence Johnson as a DB? I assume he will be basically a special teams guy. You always want to keep alot of DB’s for your coverage units, which is why alot of guys like him make the league each year.
-The defensive backfield in general is a weak spot for us, so if we do add some new players off waivers I think at least one of them might be a corner or safety.
-Who are our return guys with this roster? I’d still like for us to use Donald Brown that way although I know it is doubtful they will take my advice. I assume maybe Evans, Spann, Lefeged or someone else not yet on our roster will get those duties in week one.
-We only kept 6 LB’s for now, so I could see us trying to add a special teams player who also could play linebacker off waivers if someone fits that description. As it is, 6 is an acceptable number if they are all healthy, since teams play 30-45% nickel/dime coverage these days anyway.
Tbird
by thunderbird1245 on Sep 3, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Pretty good analysis.
I’ll admit, McNeill was a surprise as well as Terrence Johnson. I see a lot of tweaking still left to do here.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 3, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
McNeill is a beat
Some people say he’s a poor man’s DC, but he was constantly getting big downfield receptions at NU when there was no one really to throw to him. Had he been playing for Stanford or Missouri last year, he would have been a 2nd round pick.
Also, the Colts only truly have 4 TEs at this point and if they play 2 TE sets early for additional protection early on, they need a #4 guy. You can’t consider Snow a real TE. That’s just silly…
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— Tony Dungy
beast*
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
I liked him and thought he would be a good PS player.
I was surprised because he’s a receiving TE behind two pretty good receiving TEs.
by strandedincarolina on Sep 3, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree..
Also, on McNeil – I think Eldridge is coming off two knee surgeries, so they may need that 4th TE who can block to play for the 3rd TE.
And, regarding the defensive line – I think we all got a bit carried away seeing the number of quallity guys we had in camp and forgot that they just can’t keep that many. Each player has to make sense in the overall roster. Things like the ability to play multiple positions or special teams come into play when you are looking at the last person in a position group.
Keeping 6 DE’s will be the reason we don’t stop the run.
by lakecountycolt on Sep 3, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Mookie is the only DT (NT)
I hope they are searching for someone to help with depth there.
I don’t hate Brayton, but wouldn’t be upset if he was cut in favor of another 1 tech type down the road.
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Names
These are some player names I’ve kind of kicked around all day. Not saying these are targets, but just guys I saw and thought, ’He’d work.’
CB Frank Walker
OG Mike McGlynn
DT Marcus Harrison
DT Anthony Hargrove
CB Kendric Burney
DT Corvey Irvin
WR James Hardy
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Hardy is a big receiver...
But he couldn’t get playing time on an awful Bills team. Maybe he justs needs a better QB, but I wouldn’t hold my breath on him.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't."
- Jack Dempsey
by infinityzero.systemerror on Sep 3, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the idea of Hardy too
6’6" tall, good hands (former round ball player), he’s physical…I was hoping we drafted him that year. I see him being tough around the end zone.
I also like Leonard Davis at OG, and Merriweather at S.
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--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by BigBlackRichard on Sep 3, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
leonard davis
is probably up to 400lbs by now. anybody know what became of waters after he was released by kc?
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 3, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
oh great
i just read where waters is talking to the patriots….of course. i don’t know what makes the patriots do such crazy things….going out and trying to fix weaknesses on your team is insane…
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 3, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, really
good thing we dont do that
The Indianapolis Colts are going to be the 1st team to win a super bowl in their own stadium. 'nuff said.
Hardy..
I played football and basketball with him. We lost our state basketball championship 3A against Bishop Chatard in 04… he was real redzone threat back in the day. He’s been hurt since the pros. He said he signed future contract with Ravens back in Decembe when I talked to himr. Im guessing the released him since you said that..
"Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude."
good list will be interesting
to see who they go after
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Sep 4, 2011 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions
my 2 cents
Hate to say “I told you so” BBS (actually I don’t) but I kinda had a feeling Terrence Johnson would make the cut over King.
by tenaytiousd32 on Sep 3, 2011 7:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Kyle DeVan was the dumbest cut
He was better than Pollak and Richard for sure, but if they sign him to PS then its all good.
Tommie Harris should have made the roster, him paired with Mookie would have made a great run stopping duo, plus they can penetrate n the pass rush also.
I’m happy that Ernie Sims and Adrian Moten are our new LBs, them boys can cover quite well
Colts fan since Tony Dungy's 48th Birthday.
Free will is an illusion, but pragmatically, the illusion of self (ego), choice, freedom, consciousness, are all necessary for the game or struggle to move. No struggle, no universe.
I am the most die-hard Colts fan in the city and state of New Orleans, Louisiana
Why
are people complaining about cutting Kyle Devan. He is not good. Pollak also sucks it up, but atleast he looked competent as the center on the 2nd unit.
Considering that DeVan was an UDFA
he held his own quite well on the line and was pretty much consistent, Pollak on the other hand is a 2nd round pick so we expect alot from him over Devan, but so far we got nothing
Colts fan since Tony Dungy's 48th Birthday.
Free will is an illusion, but pragmatically, the illusion of self (ego), choice, freedom, consciousness, are all necessary for the game or struggle to move. No struggle, no universe.
I am the most die-hard Colts fan in the city and state of New Orleans, Louisiana
Thoughts
Anybody recall Polian saying McClendon will be starting next yr? I thought this guy should have never been drafted out of TN but he changed my mind this yr and played well when given the opp’t. I don’t know how you can give up this guy so soon when he really in my opinion out played Reitz. Also Spann should’ve been relegated to the PS. Alfalva should’ve stuck over Caldwell. By the looks of this roster, there will be a heavy emphasis on max protection and the run game as they ease Peyton back in at some point. The problem is the FO keeps the wrong personnel. To their credit a couple of pooh butts are history but we still have too many to be solid. Finally, I think Harris may be back after the 1st week. They just don’t want to guarantee his salary while they guarantee Collins $4M..duh!,
nope
he didnt out play reitz. thats just wrong
alfalva should not have stuck over caldwell. caldwell is the best tackler on the team.
harris wont be back
i remember Polian saying that very thing, with McClendon sitting to his right in a TV studio
I think it was the “Colts Up Close” program
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
Not surprised that Mcclendon was cut
Seems the colts are only allowed one token black olineman per year.Ijalana is that guy.
Very curious comment...do you have your white pointy hat on?
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by BigBlackRichard on Sep 3, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ill take that as a "yes"
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by BigBlackRichard on Sep 3, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Just playing man....we havent had many black ol's since Glenn.
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by BigBlackRichard on Sep 3, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
just not a big fan of the "token" thing
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by BigBlackRichard on Sep 3, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya feel ya too..
Heard that DJ scratch as i read it lol
"Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude."
Stupidity. We had 3 last year (Thomas, McClendon, Charlie)
not to mention both OLinemen that had stints on the PS, James Williams and Xavier Fulton . It’s tiring and absurd seeing people trying to play the race card played on the makeup of the Colts roster, as if anyone in the FO or the coaching staff cared about color.
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
lol but really tho..
I think its odd they just gave up on him after a year..
Wow, feels like High School all over again...
and I’m reading the final roster for the basketball team. My name is not on there, and I’m reading some of the names and thinking “wtf” and “how did this kid make it over me”.
I said it all last year...
CUT DON BROWN! I don’t know what the problem is, but he can’t run the ball. Which is a vital skill for a RUNNING BACK.!
I don’t see how he made this roster.
Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!
The Colts: We play more football in the fourth quarter than some teams play all year!
He made the roster
because he was a first round draft pick. Same with Gonzales and Hughes.
Call me crazy but....
The cut I am most disappointed about is the cutting of Chris Brooks. I thought he looked really good. Reminded me of Garcon with better hands. Plus he had a ton of reps with the ones even thought it wasn’t Manning. Also surprised that McClendon, Harris and DeVan.
yep
you are crazy.
brooks is hardly worthy of being in the league. there are far worse cuts than his. colts fans need to start thinking about the lines and stop with all of the 5th wr bs
by omahacolt on Sep 3, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Brooks is not good.
“Like Garcon with better hands.” The hands that batted the perfectly thrown ball into the air for a pick in game one? He is not good.
5th Wr very well could be a concern
Blair White- Injured
Austin Collie- Injured and has a history
Anthony Gonzalez- Injured and has a history
That puts us darn close to the 5th wr. However, I do agree that we do have other areas of concern such as DL
Whoop-de-do
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by dezznutz1001 on Sep 4, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
what is collie's history??
he got a few concussions last year, other than that hes always been healthy. Concussion are not like hamstrings…they arent nagging and cant be easily reinjured. Every player is a big shot to the head away from being out for the year, Collie is not a bigger risk than anyone else
Why do you keep saying this?
Getting a concussion makes you more likely to get one in the future especially the year post.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/concussion/DS00320/DSECTION=risk-factors
Relevant text:
Factors that may increase your risk of a concussion include:
Having had a previous concussion.
Collie is still within the year time frame which means he may be up to three times more likely than others that have no suffered concussions to sustain a repeat concussion.
Lets just let them play the games
Hell even bob sanders may have a healthy season in SD. Anything
Can
Happen
Toodles
by ColtKing on Sep 4, 2011 7:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fingers crossed
Hoping that a healthy Clark will take some of those routes over the middle and Collie can stay out of harms way this season.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
This shows, Colts are stupid as rocks
Orlovsky > Painter
My grandmother > Richard
DeVree > McNeill
My other grandmother and also Chick > Brayton
Afalava > Caldwell
you are close
devree is not even close to mcneil
and afalava is not better than caldwell
i agree with the others
Everyone that believes the BS that Harris had a bad attitude and wasn't a good teammate
Should read Robert Mathis’ recent tweet:
“Damn.. hate to see my dude Tommie Harris go! great player,homie and student of the game. He opened my eyes to alot of stuff in #NFLbiz”
Also said John Chick deserved a roster spot and when asked on a scale of 1-10 what he thought of the defensive roster cuts, he responded “I have my opinons about it.”
When asked why they let Harris walk he said “I wish I knew”.
by FatDT on Sep 4, 2011 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
All I can say is that I feel sorry for Peyton. This defense is bound to give up more points than in year’s past. He’s not 100% healthy, so I’m having serious doubts about this year.
What a stupid move cutting Harris. He got cut cause he wanted to be treated like the best DT? Are you freaking serious? Who’s to say he is wrong! What a dumb reason to get rid of someone. Guess they didn’t want locker room problems.
I’m sure things are that bad, but I just have my doubts right now. Let’s see how things go after a few games.
And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Another Seas...
…of Mike Pollak and Jamey Richard in Colts uniforms. Unreal.
Laughable. Nauseating.
Javarris James cut over Donald Brown.
Colts Front Office proves my last 3 posts (unfortunately) in spades: nothing to do with on the field play/results, 100% to the contrary of what the PR machine tries to (mis)lead us to believe. Rather all about saving face and making any and all moves necessary to avoid admitting/acknowledging a swing and a miss.
So frustrating. So tired of it. So obvious I don’t know what else to say, except I picked the wrong time to quit sniffing glue…
by I'm Not Alone, I'm Just Blue on Sep 4, 2011 3:47 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Thoughts
It is funny how fast people forget When De Van started on our line we had one of the worst rushing averages in the league. Not saying it’s all his fault BUT he sucked just like the rest of the scrubs we kept. So what I have noticed on here is that it is ok to keep a scrub as long it is a scrub we like. We had ONE legit person on our line RIGHT now, and that is Saturday. The rest of them dudes are bench players on any other team. I keep reading about Harris, I do agree he played well in the preseason, but him being cut means NEVIS gets more playing time and I am all for that. SNOW did not get cut, we have 5 TE on the roster right now, i am more pissed about that. I wouldn’t lose too much sleep on the DL because we have 6 Good Linebackers on this roster. If we don’t bring in a Veteran to lead these young DB we will lose a lot of close games, that is our biggest weakness. Manning will get the ball out fast, so he won’t let those clowns in front of him get him killed. but if we can’t get pressure up front, our secondary will get exposed.
by Naptown808 on Sep 4, 2011 5:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Response
Snow is a specialist, not a TE. I wish everyone would just realize that and move on.
6 Good Linebackers? I honestly don’t see 1 good LB on this roster that would start for another team
Agree 100% about the DB situation. It is dangerously close to being absolutely terrible. Lacey is garbage. I’m not saying he should be cut, but he shouldn’t even be the nickel back. They need an upgrade at CB in a big way. That is my biggest concern moving forward.
Not concerned about WR if White is healthy.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Sep 4, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Snow??
What does snow specialize in, because I am lost. unless he specialize in circle jerks in the locker room, he will not see the field. So Sims started for Lions and Eagles, Bracket is a top ten middle linebacker EASILY. Who has more interception than Lacey since he was drafted…don’t worry, I’ll wait. He attacks the ball in the Air, and he is the only person in our secondary that attacks. YES he get’s toasted, ALOT but when he does break on it, he picks it. Is lacey a starter….ummmmm NO but he is the second best on the roster TODAY. He will be unseated but not by Tryon, but Thomas.
Snow's a long snapper.
Don’t think that’s an important position? Ask the Chargers.
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by ISN on Sep 5, 2011 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow Javaris James is so bad he can't even make the Indianapolis Peyton Mannings
Just quit now bro
I'm a brony and proud of it.
by wimpiam on Sep 4, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Jets traded DB Dwight Lowery to Jacksonville
Is that what we targeted and missed out on with the rumored trade?
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
So we have 5 Rb's on or roster then?
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Will the Tommie Harris episode
have a chilling effect on any release players considering the Colts?
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Don't we have to be darn sure about who we pick up at this point?
Considering that there is no time to evaluate them, they have to be a sure thing. How many players actually fit that profile?
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Colts have signed Chris Gronkowski released by Cowboys
Now we know why they initially kept 4 tight ends.
Saw this just now as well..
Brother of pats TE Rob Gronkowski. Was
Projected as 4th rounder in 2010 and went undrafted, signed by cowboys. Did he play FB in dallas? Because that’s what he played in college other than a brief stint at LB. Interesting signing to say the least.
by ColtKing on Sep 4, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If he is going to be used as a FB than perhaps the Colts are......
……..finally serious about the running game. At first glance I like this. A few 6 and 8 yard gashes up the middle in Houston and I will be as giddy as a…. well take your pick.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Yup he's def a FB
Love the idea of using a FB.
by ColtKing on Sep 4, 2011 2:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
6' 2" and 246 lbs, he is a freight train
He played in 14 games in 2010. I suppose he is just a numbers and strategy casualty?
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Carter with gronkowski
= two car train = 1st down conversion on short yardage = no more elimination from playoffs because of pathetic short yardage attempts cough mike hart
by ColtKing on Sep 4, 2011 6:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree except don't get ahead of yourself
Need to get to the playoffs first
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Maybe he was signed to beat up his little brother on the Patriots
2 of the 3 G brothers got cut yesterday. The other brother Dan was cut by the Broncos too.
"Wanna Bet?" Colts QB Art Schlichter
With Mudd there
Not surprising.
Wish him good
Luck unless
We face them @ superbowl
by ColtKing on Sep 4, 2011 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gronkowski
Gronk was the Cowboy who missed a block that got Romo’s collarbone busted; he’s also the guy who missed a ST block on the play that destroyed Dez Bryant’s ankle.
Doesn't sound like the ideal candidate to protect PM and his neck
"Wanna Bet?" Colts QB Art Schlichter
Your right - don't sign ANY players
because they have all made mistakes and bad plays
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Could you point out...
…where I said that they should not have signed him? I’d appreciate it.
right you are
my bad and apology please. I guess I’m just a little sensitive to all the Colts brass bashing.
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
I thought he was aTE
I was thinking that Colts are going to cut the 4th TE but it is more likely Spann will be a casualty.
by codrutc on Sep 4, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
that's his brother in NE
"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"
Add P.Manning to the PUP
It seems he´ll need another neck surgery…
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