Some 'Silver-Lining' Thoughts On Peyton Manning, Kerry Collins, And The 2011 Colts
by Brad Wells on Sep 9, 2011 1:07 PM EDT
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PrintI was in depression on Tuesday when pretty much every 'source' I had was telling me Peyton Manning would have some kind of procedure either this weekend or next week. Turns out Jon Michael Vincent was the one who got this thing correct. Peyton had surgery yesterday, but I don't think anyone was expecting 'spinal fusion' to part of the procedure.
But, it is what it is, and I'm now in the acceptance phase.
We've written about the injury so much I'm starting to think MY neck needs fusing. From what we know in reading and watching opinions from various doctors, the idea of Peyton Manning returning to play in 2011 is a pipe dream. He isn't taking snaps from under center in a game in 2011. Not happening. Don't hold onto that expectation because it is simply unrealistic.
Like Phil Wilson and many others have reported, this is a surgery that takes a minimum of three months to recover from. And that's being SUPER optimistic. There is also no guarantee that the nerve in his throwing arm will regenerate. If it does, his arm is obviously weak and needs lots of treatment.
So many questions. Very few answers.
Thus, let's just dismiss any talk of Peyton returning in 2011. I honestly don't understand why he hasn't been placed on IR. My guess is the Colts are afraid that, should they do this, fans will give up on the season and start selling their tickets to other fans for opposing teams. They pulled this nonsense with Marvin Harrison in 2007, and with Bob Sanders last year. It basically means the Colts are operating with a 52-man roster, not 53. It's dumb, but that's just me.
Despite the idiocy of keeping Peyton on the active roster, I do think there are some very positive 'silver-lining' type stories here surrounding the 'Manningless Colts' for 2011. Obviously, this team is not Super Bowl caliber. It isn't even playoff caliber right now. But, that doesn't mean there aren't stories worth following in relation to this team. After the jump, we discuss the first in series I will post today...
Is Jim Caldwell A Real Coach?
Entering his third year, the meme on Jim Caldwell is still the same: He is a cheap copy of Tony Dungy who lacks Dungy's overall ability to effectively lead men. Caldwell is also viewed as a stooge for Bill Polian, and when he is not acting as a lackey for the team's vice chairman, the perception is he doesn't coach the team. Peyton Manning does.
Again, these are the perceptions, fair or unfair (mostly fair, in my humble opinion).
With Peyton effectively done for 2011, this is Caldwell's opportunity to prove he is a real coach. Kerry Collins, the man replacing Peyton this season, is someone Jim Caldwell mentored at Penn State. They know each other very well. The Colts defense is coached by Caldwell's former mentor at Iowa, Larry Coyer. Longtime assistants Gene Huey, Howard Mudd and Tom Moore are gone, replaced with people Caldwell handpicked.
This is now Caldwell's team, not Dungy's on loan
Thus, how this team responds to the loss of Manning will definitely reflect on Caldwell. This is his moment to shine. It is now that true leaders stand up and prove themselves. Caldwell is already on thin ice with both the media (who can't stand him) and with fans (who think he's incompetent). If the Colts start losing, and losing badly, Caldwell will not be able to hide behind any excuses. If this team looks sloppy, unfocused, or quits in the face of adversity, Caldwell will be (rightly) blamed.
However, should this team rise up and surprise people, should it win some games no one expects them to, people will start to view Caldwell in a different light. I, for one, am interested to see what he will do to make this team competitive. My expectations are low, but my curiosity is high. Personally, I think Caldwell is coaching for his job this year. Another former Collins coach (Jeff Fisher) is sitting out there looking for a job in 2012, and we already know he likes the Colts.
Next up: Pressure On The Front Office.
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I think i'm flitting between depression and acceptance.
I’ll come to terms and be like ‘right, Collins is okay, this season can be alright’, but then I’ll forget about it and when I next think, it’ll be back into trying to accept it.
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I think Caldwell is coaching for his job this year
I wish that was the case, because there is nothing I’d like more than for Caldwell to be sent packing, and Fisher or Gruden be hired.
I just think Polian and Irsay would use Manning’s injury as an excuse to keep Caldwell on.
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I was tweeting to Paul Kuharsky about this last night, and Paul and I aren’t exactly buddies. Still, he indicated the idea of Fisher to Colts was a good point to note when discussing Caldwell in 2011.
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I'll take him in a second
or Gruden or Cower
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Sep 9, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
and Caldwell
can go back to doing what he does best an assisitant head caoch
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Sep 9, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you're right
But I doubt it. On one hand the front office will say “Injuries are no excuse, we expect to win!”. But they’ll also give Caldwell a pass because Manning is hurt.
I'm terrified that this might just be the case.
For the love of god Irsay! Please put down your bong and watch last year’s Jags end-of-game clock management! If you want tears, just re-watch the SuperBowl!
caldwell is gone
tressell was hired already so he could replace caldwell next year……
What about
Clyde Christense? I think that he should shoulder some of this pressure as well, but I agree that the buck stops with Caldwell. I want to see how Christensen will adjust to a new QB and how he designs plans to play to our strengths.
Good decisions
He will need to make lots of good ones as will the rest of his assistants. We’ll see the results starting on Sun. Good Luck to them and GO COLTS !
Hell, I'm a Dolphins fan and even I'm going through the stages.
Still at depression, btw.
by Agumen on Sep 9, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dungy Light
Sure, Dungy is a Hall of Famer, but his “Quiet Strength” approach to coaching can’t be run by a boob like Caldwell. It’s impossible for fans on the outside to even tell what the heck he is doing to lead the team.
It’s do or die this year for Caldwell. There are some HUGE names out there in the coaching world (Cowher, Fisher, even Dungy) that could add an awesome spark to the team in 2012. I wanna see 18 paired up with another passionate leader.
That said, let’s go eat some Texans meat!!!
by Blue Doom Crew on Sep 9, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Caldwell will either be considered Coach of the Year
if the Colts make the playoffs w/o Peyton or he will be wearing a Walmart vest as a greeter if his coaching shortcomings are magnified and rise to the surface.
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If the surgery was done properly and I assume it was
I am optimistic he will recover, ( the earlier surgery- ?s remain whether it was the right proceedure and was it done correctly?? ) hopefully it was, , but Peyton has been a good healer in the past and he will do whatever it takes to get back,, and this is definitive treatment and he does not want to go out this way
Glad Collins is starting, and hopefully team will step up and silence all the critics, but we need another veteran back-up,, if Collins goes down and CP has to play there is no hope in my opinion for the season
Best worst case scenario
Manning doesn’t play in the 2011 season. Colts have a horrible record (5 or so wins) and Caldwell is fire. Colts go out and hire a real coach (Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden two names that pop in my head.) Colts have some high draft picks to stock up on talent. Manning comes back completely healthy next year.
that is not so bad except having to suffer through this year
esp bad cause with Peyton had a chance for Indy in Indy for SB- now that will not happen
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Sep 9, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
would be painful!!!!
would do it in a sceond if I knew Colts would win the SB next year or the year after,, would love to see Colts with a good chance for the playoffs after 12 games and Peyton healthy enough to lead us into the playoffs, but that would be best case scenerio for me this year
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Sep 9, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
2008 Pats Perspective
Pats fans went through the same thing when Brady went down 15 minutes into the 2008 season. We all had the same questions. Is Belichick a real coach or was it Brady all along? How the hell do we have a backup QB that hasn’t started a game since high school? Will Moss give up on the season and go back to his Oakland ways? Is this Welker guy a one year wonder? Are we going to get blown out every week?
It all turned out okay. In my humble opinion, it was Belichick’s finest coaching performance. My favorite game from that season was when we lost to the then 8-3 Farve-led Jets. We were supposed to get killed but fought back really hard. Moss made the second-best catch I’ve ever seen Moss make. After the 2007, 18-1 season, it was kind of nice to wonder whether we were actually going to win the game instead of were we going to score 30, 40 or 50 (not that I’d ever wish for that ever again)? You never know. It might turn out to be like that. However, we had a coach with a lot of experience and a fairly tough defense (not great, but tough). Good luck to you guys.
by JayzDC on Sep 9, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think it's fair to say...
that Belichick is a bit farther up on the Coach totem pole than Caldwell. Just a smidge.
Now, "wait 'till next year" looks like "Watch out for next year!" GO LEAFS GO!
I know you're in a tough spot right now,
No need to lash out.
/insert obligatory intervention quote
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by ISN on Sep 9, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The cheating part.
Not like he broke a rule of football, but rather an NFL administrative by-law. Like every college player receiving handouts, it doesn’t affect how they play on the field.
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by ISN on Sep 9, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How many playoff wins since caught cheating?
by Coltsdude1000 on Sep 9, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
A superbowl appearence
What about the Colts?
by Crizzle12 on Sep 9, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh
That’s what I get for trying to be sympathetic toward Colts fans. Sigh.
Does it make you feel better to lash out at people who are trying to be helpful toward you, you db? Karma’s a youknowwhat and apparently, she’s hell bent on screwing the Colts this season. I guess no good deed goes unpunished in Colts Land, eh? Good luck with Caldwell and Polian. You deserve them both.
No, since Spygate it's been one, and it was a loss.
You’ve also won the same number of playoff games since Spygate broke, despite having one more year of playoffs.
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by ISN on Sep 10, 2011 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i have a hard time believing
patriot fans were asking “is belichick a real coach”….that is kinda laughable. the diff between that patriot teams and the colts is margin of error. the previous year the pats were killing teams…on the other hand the colts have rarely blown anyone out in the last 2-3 years. when you lose a great qb,AND you have a mediocre running game/defense/special teams….well it’s going to be hard to win imo
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 9, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes Pats- Colts will not be quite the same
this year without Peyton just like it was that yr without Brady,, always want the best against the best
Gruden??
Dear God, please never let this happen! Are you guys nuts?
Cowher on the other hand… I could get behind him. Fisher even.
Caldwell is like Dungy Lite. He tries to have the same calm approach, but without the spark in his eye that makes it inspiring or intimidating. I agree 100% that this is his make-or-break year.
by COLTSandBOILERSforLIFE on Sep 9, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
At least if Gruden is coaching somewhere,
we don’t have to listen to his sub-par commentating on Monday nights.
Here's to hoping JJ Watt was our last top 20 draft pick for a while
It's an act.
It’s bad, but if he wasn’t concerned about being a coach again, he’d be brilliant.
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by ISN on Sep 9, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
why so much hate for chucky by colt fans???
the guy was successful with raiders….that’s right, THE RAIDERS!!!! plus, he did what dungy couldn’t do with the bucs…win a super bowl.
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 9, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
My silver lining
Is that the draft is only 9 months away. WOOO
by Coltsfaninoklahoma1 on Sep 9, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I hope we hear Lamey scream:
’Collins to Clark, TD Colts!!!!!!!! …….many times this year.
I know it was preseason...
But this team put up a really good fight against the Packers a few weeks ago. Realistically speaking, it probably means nothing. The other teams in this division have been getting better so we have a 17 week FIGHT ahead of us but I don’t think this team will lay down. Without Manning, we lose more than just our quarterback. We lose our biggest leader on the team, period. Do you think any of the players respect Caldwell, Polian, Irsay or anyone in the locker room more than they do Peyton? I don’t think so. So it will be interesting to me to see who steps up to lead this team.
I think Collins is a significant upgrade over Painter. He is old, but Favre had an excellent year in Minnesota a few years back at the same age. Yeah, it probably helped with a stout run defense and having Adrian Peterson in your backfield, but Favre made some throws that season. I don’t think the Colts will go 0-16 without Manning like a lot of people seem to think. If the team competes and plays hard and still loses a lot of games, I’ll be happy. I just don’t want to see the players write themselves off just because Manning isn’t there.
If the worst this season has to offer us is increased player confidence, Caldwell getting fired and a top 5 draft pick that Polian doesn’t bust on, we’ll be looking at a solid shot in 2012. Can we replace Reggie Wayne at the bottom of the first round? I don’t think so, and Reggie is getting older.
by ATX Colts Fan on Sep 9, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I'm optimistic that
the Colts can be 6-4 at the by week.
If Manning is out for the season
I count 6 games on the schedule the colts should lose. One to the Texans, Steelers, Atlanta, Saints, Pats, and Ravens. Throw in two more losses due to the colts beating the colts, and I come up with a best case record of 8-8. I think this best case record is a worse case scenario. No Playoffs, and no High draft pick.
i'm thinking 4 to 6 wins....
they might be in a lot of games, but this year the colts probably lose those games. hell, even in the 09 season the colts won many of those games by the hair of their ass.
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 9, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim, Meet Jim
I’m from Ohio and I am not a huge Ohio State fan…but what keeps crossing my mind is that Jim Tressel was not brought aboard just to be a “game day consultant.” Jim Tressel is what you would consider another mold or version of a Tony Dungy…quiet man, strong in faith, and a quiet leader. He produced many good years when at OSU and I think the Colt’s front office could be putting him in place to work up the charts. They usually try and move them up the lader of a period of time. Getting him on the team was their first goal and hurdle, then getting the suspension out of the way was the next. Now when he resumes in week 7 he will be an offical Colt employee. I feel they might already have the other Jim’s replacement on board….if need be. A prestegious coach is not going to want to be a “game day consultant” forever. I am keeping my eye on this one. He was at several training camp practices, and I think he had a role in helping a hurt Gonzo make the team since he was his former coach. I don’t see the Colt’s going the BIG NAME route if they don’t keep Caldwell…they aren’t big name signers…not in coaching and not in players. Best of luck to the Colt’s this season. Manning, get healthy! Go Colts!
by Dalton Pate on Sep 9, 2011 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I second that thought
BP has always had a hard on for the Big Ten…especially the SUCKEYES….get ready to see alot of the “BLUE VEST” in 12’…BTW why hasn’t BP or CP been fired yet…they haven’t produced a pro-bowl drafted player in 4 years! and have given the GOAT absolute crap to work with
again,
Did Tress beat you up or steal your lunch money?
by Revenge of the Fallen on Sep 10, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing he's a Michigan guy.
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If that is the case,
I totally understand his hatred. I mean, Tress owned scUM. The only loss was back in 2003, when the national title winning QB went down and Ohio State proceeded to do jack crap offensively w. the backup.
by Revenge of the Fallen on Sep 10, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Found the Tressel hiring "interesting" as well
But boy, that would be a smack by Irsay in the face of his current coach. How would that make you feel if your employer hired your replacement?
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agree completely and am surprised BBS hasn't commented on it
Love him or hate him…as an x’s coach he was very successful. You have to wonder why he took the job….not why the colts hired him. Why would a guy with a college record good enough for a head coaching position take an unheard of position with the colts? Even with a checkered past that had to do with things outside of football, he most likely could find a head coaching job somewhere. I’ll tell you one thing even including the colts records, Tressel has a better overall record as a head coach than caldwell. I tell you that if I’m caldwell, I am worried
by nighttrain551 on Sep 9, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
We're about to see the difference between Peyton Manning and other NFL QBs
He’s more valuable!
Brady gets hurt in 2008 season, Patriots go 11-5 with Matt Cassel.
Roethlisberger’s suspension last year – Steelers went 3-1 with Charlie Batch and were still relatively dominant. They took the Ravens down to the wire in their 1 loss.
Rodgers missed a game against the best team in the NFL last year (the Patriots) and Matt Flynn nearly led the team to victory in Foxborough.
Us Colts fans remember Rivers getting hurt in that divisional playoff game and Billy Volek still leading the Chargers to victory.
As for the Colts without Peyton Manning, they’re in big trouble. 4 or 5 wins would be my guess. A bottom 10 defense, bottom 5 running game, awful pass protection, awful special teams. Who’s going to help Collins out?
More Like Difference Between Polian and Other GMs
You’re mixing up QB performance alone with building an entire team. All of the teams had QBs who knew their team’s system, strong running games, good offensive lines and stout defenses. The Colts are built very differently. This is about changing an entire offensive and defensive system based on a superstar QB getting a lead. It will be a challenge.
So will I. Right now it consists as a coin bucket in my closet.
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A fan's dilemma
The team wins more than they lose and gets a mid-1st round pick; or does poor enough to get a top 5 pick
by MadStork on Sep 9, 2011 3:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Colts Future
Let Manning get rested and let him sit this season. The rookies we picked up will be much better next year plus we can build the OL and DEF even more. If we get a bad record who cares… Caldwell will be gone (Please bring in Jeff Fisher!) and we might actually have a chance at drafting Andrew Luck who could learn from Manning and Collins. Future QB right there, under the wing of Manning… we would have another Steve Young/Aaron Rodgers setup!!
Who knows with this surgery, he would have less pain throwing the rock and he could become an even BETTER QB (if that was even possible) because he will be playing with less pain. He could be scary great next year with plenty of rest.
A lot of individuals that signed during free agency only signed 1 year agreements… so there will be a lot of DEF players available to go after that could really help us out.
We have a strong WR core and yes Wayne is up there in years but with Clark & Collie we are only 1 maybe 2 WRs from having a top 5 receiving core. Tamme has done well, Blair White has done well and Garcon could be great if he could learn to catch the ball.
We need to ‘trim the fat’ and let Brown, Hughes and Pollack GO! Jim Irsay needs to step and put Bill and Chris Polian in there place about getting talent around Manning on the OL and DEF.
by TheSpear on Sep 9, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So what is going to happen to the playbook?
I don’t think there is any way that Collins can learn the complicated offense in only two weeks. So are they going to dumb down the playbook so to speak, and make the other players adjust, or are they gonna stick with it and hope collins gets it?
Here's to hoping JJ Watt was our last top 20 draft pick for a while
The Colts offence isn't complicated.
It’s the checks and audibles. Collins isn’t going to be able to do that to the same level Manning would, but he can run the exact same plays Manning would.
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by ISN on Sep 9, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This site buried Manning yesterday
Here's to hoping JJ Watt was our last top 20 draft pick for a while
Big Blue Shoe
Is the only one on thin ice.
But we can’t fire you because it’s your blog.
Caldwell is a real coach. He’s not Dungy-Lite. Caldwell was a part of the Colts’ success before, which is why Dungy himself recommended Caldwell as the new head coach.
This team’s past success has Caldwell to thank.
This teams future success also has Caldwell to thank.
BBS, you are bad. You’ve obviously never played football. You’ve obviously never been involved in a team sport. You really don’t know ANYTHING about leadership. I don’t think you know ANYTHING about football.
Manning is not as important as you think. Losing Marvin Harrison may be as bad as losing Manning. The Harrison-Manning mind-meld was huge. After Marvin, Manning struggled. He a GOOD quarteback, though, and succeeded. The team can succeeed now. You goddamm pessimsim is bad for us fans, and bad for the team.
Get your shit together and become a positive force.
Negative people sit around, make predictions, and hope their predictions come out right so they can look good. How about being a positive person for a change and stop looking for the jet trails in the spagetti western. We’re all on the same side here. Give us some articles with meat. We don’t want just dry bones.
Uhhhhhh. Wow
You’re just incredibly wrong in virtually everything you’ve said, but especially about Manning not being important. That’s the most ignorant and foolish thing I’ve ever heard. Losing Marvin Harrison was as bad as losing Manning? LOL?
2006 (Harrison’s last effective year), Manning posted 31TDs, 9 INTs (career low INT%), 7.9 YPA, 4397 yds, 101 rating with 14 sacks, 65% completion.
2007 (Harrison played in 5 games and was irrelevant), Manning posted 31 TDs, 14 INTs (career average INT%), 7.8 YPA, 98 rating, 21 sacks, 65.4% completion.
So you think the Colts without Manning will be less of a difference than that? Not to mention anybody who knows anything about Colts football recognizes the real reason that Manning threw more INTs and got sacked an ass ton more was because this was the year after Tarik Glenn surprisingly retired, leaving the Colts without the time to develop Ugoh or find an otherwise suitable replacement LT.
2008 (Marvin Harrison’s actual final year), Manning posted 27TD, 12 INTs, 7.2YPA, 95.0 rating, sacked 14 times (this is the year he started adjusting more to having a shit O-line), 66.8%.
2009 (Harrison no longer in the NFL), Manning posts 33 TDs, 16INTs, 7.8YPA, 99.9 rating, sacked 10 times, 68.8% completion.
Oh the humanity, look how terrible Manning was after losing Harrison for good! What struggles! If you can sit there and honestly say to yourself that Harrison was as important to the Colts as Manning was, then you’re kidding yourself. Manning is the single most irreplaceable player in the NFL.
That said, can the Colts still succeed? Of course it’s possible, but it’s highly unlikely. As for Jim Caldwell, think about it this way. If he were fired tomorrow, how many teams do you think would come knocking at his door for their head coaching position? 5? 6? maybe 10? That pretty much sums it up.
by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Sep 9, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Try zero. lol
Nobody in their right minds would hire Caldwell, which illustrates my point about our current Colts braintrust. Just imagine for a moment, if the Colts had hired Sean Payton (or someone like him) as the head coach. He and Manning would be unstoppable. Getting a qualified coach is important. Hiring a guy who won 25% of his college games because he happened to be recommended by Dungy is ludicrous.
by Ayrshire on Sep 9, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh man, a Sean Payton offense
with our receivers and Peyton Manning…that would be something else.
Although…with our run game…but still, what a great offensive mind.
by LeftNutForAStarCenter on Sep 9, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
please don't breed.....
but if that was a level….then bravo
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Sep 9, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think its a pipe dream
He said he wants to play this year no matter the record and while the recovery will take up most of the season he could be back for the last couple weeks and if we are in the position where those wins could mean playoffs or not. (i know its a long shot but dont think its out of the picture)
We all know all he wants to do is go out and play and coming back at the end of the season and playing with renewed fire will not only be exciting but it could also show that hes still got it and erase any doubt of his career being over or him being ineffective.
We wouldnt have to wait a full year to see if hes really back because we all know no one really trusts the colts PR. Him coming back this year could be the surge the team needs to take the division and maybe even win some playoff games
but i would stil keep the max protection scheme in to protect him and give him more time and by then we’ll know how good our O line is and if they can keep him safe or not.
Is this a rhetorical question?
No.
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by shonuff on Sep 9, 2011 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Was that a rhetorical question?
How about this one?
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Colts won’t tank… 9-7 this season and come out of it without the perverbial chip on our shoulder anymore. Collins is a good choice for a replacement, but with the severity of Manning’s injury, we pick up a QB in the first round. Give up a 2013 first rounder to somebody to get an early pick at Luck or Weeden. NOW is the time to plan for the future QB to take the reigns.
I could kinda see it.
Doubt he controls the offense but I could see the running back improve of the Colts. Also, he loves ST.
by Revenge of the Fallen on Sep 10, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions
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