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Suck For Luck Complete: The Colts, Andrew Luck, And How The 2012 Draft Could Shake Out

Tomorrow morning, as everyone gets ready for the craziness that is 'Black Monday' in the NFL, you're going to see the first of what are to be manymanymanymanymanymanymany mock drafts between now and late April. At the top of all those mocks, you will see the words Indianapolis Colts.

After starting 0-13 and then winning two games in a row, Indy has finally completed their quest to 'Suck For Luck' after the Jags and Maurice Jones-Drew ran all over them en route to a 19-16 win today. A 2-14 record for Indy means they draft No. 1 overall in 2012. The last time they had that high a pick, they took some goofy-looking dude with a big forehead and a laser rocket arm named 'Manning.'

The Rams lost to the 49ers today as well. They are slotted in at No. 2. The Vikings are locked in at No. 3 with the Buccaneers the before-mentioned Jaguars likely at 4 and 5, respectively.

Note: The No. 4 and 5 positions could change by this evening.

Amazingly, the Rams, Vikings, Bucs, and Jags all have young quarterbacks that were taken high in the last three drafts. This is rather unusual because, normally, teams at the top of the draft order are there because they don't have a young, 'franchise QB.' But, with these teams, we have:

For the Colts, the age and health uncertainly of Peyton Manning virtually guarantees they will select Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck No. 1 overall. News coming out of Baylor is that in seems likely Heisman Trophy winner Robert 'RG3' Griffin III will forgo his senior year enter the NFL Draft.

Griffin, like Luck, is a major talent. Teams desperate for a playmakers at quarterback might be strongly inclined to move up into the Top Five and take RG3 to be their 'franchise' QB.

Star-divide

While it is certainly possible that the Colts could use their No. 1 prize to trade for a bounty of picks in an effort to rebuild their roster around Peyton Manning, it's unlikely. Manning will be 36 in March. He missed all of 2011 with a destabilized neck. Again, we're talking neck here. Discs. Spine. Lost feeling in the triceps muscle of his throwing arm. It took three surgeries (that we know of) to stabilize the neck. Now, Manning is throwing again, but it would be complete and utter insanity for Colts owner Jim Irsay to simply assume Manning will return in 2012 looking like the Manning we saw win the MVP in 2009.

Shockingly, a rookie from Stanford is a safer bet at quarterback for the Colts right now than Peyton friggin Manning.

Also, it's not like the Colts are just a few players away from contending again. They were 2-14 for a reason, and they seem unlikely to re-sign free agents Robert Mathis and Reggie Wayne this off-season.

The Colts and Luck are a lock. I don't see any scenario where they trade, and if they do, Jim Irsay will have to deal with torches and pitchforks in the Heartland.

For the other teams in the Top five, this draft will be very, very interesting.

Dan Kadar at SB Nation's NFL Draft site Mocking The Draft has the top five players likely to enter the draft listed:

  1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
  2. Matt Kalil, OT, USC
  3. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
  4. Morris Claiborne*, CB, LSU
  5. Jonathan Martin*, OT, Stanford

Note that Kadar has USC's Matt Barkley currently listed at No. 3, but Barkley has already stated he will stay at USC in 2012. Also, Claiborne and Martin haven't declared for the draft yet, but signs point to them doing so. Kadar has RG3 as low as 15th. But, Griffin's recent performance in the Tecmo Bowl Alamo Bowl (295 passing yards, 70% completion, two touchdowns, 55 yards rushing) might push him into the Top Five of some draft boards.

Especially if those boards are drawn up by teams like the Redskins, Browns, Dolphins, and Seahawks.

Now, straight-up, the Rams, Vikings, Bucs, and Jags could stay right where they are and get players that could immediately help their respective football teams. The Rams taking Kalil provides them with more talent along their offensive line. Keeping Sam Bradford healthy in 2011 was a chore in St. Louis. With Kalil, Rodger Saffold could move to right tackle, and Bradford would have two bookend tackles to keep him clean in the pocket.

Adrian Peterson's late-season knee injury means his status of 2012 is iffy. Thus, Minnesota taking Richardson isn't too much of a stretch. The Bucs need all the help on defense they can get, and Claiborne was arguably the best corner in college football last year. Like the Rams, the Jaguars want to add more pieces around Gabbert. Taking Martin would shore up their o-line.

Other players to consider are OK State's Justin Blackmon, UNC's Zach Brown, Nore Dame's Michael Floyd, and Alabama's Courtney Upshaw.

However, consider for moment the following:

  • The Redskins will probably pick at No. 7, and they' made it known they want a quarterback.
  • The Browns have two first round picks in 2012. One will probably be the No. 6 overall pick while the other is likely the No. 22 pick. For a team like the Rams, who could use both first round picks to add weapons around Bradford, those two first rounders have to look like gold.
  • The Bengals also have two first round picks, and while they are not in the market for a quarterback, they could be targeting a playmaker like Richardson or a lineman like Kalil.

If you're RG3, you have to like your options here. Lots of teams could be vying to move up and take the Baylor phenom. and, really, we don't know how the draft order will completely shake out. the Browns could lose this evening and move up to No. 5, and that might be high enough to get RG3, if they want him. The Redskins also might draft ahead of the Jaguars.

What teams like the Redskins and Browns are willing to give up to get RG3 will be a major story between now and late-April.

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There are going to be some coaches getting fired tomorrow, so we'll have that to chew over

I agree with you completely, Luck and the Colts are a virtual lock. I guess it’s POSSIBLE for some ridiculous trade to happen, but not likely.

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by danorocks17 on Jan 1, 2012 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

I think you will see the Colts doing some draft day trades

I could see the Colts moving Bracket, Clark, Addai and even Freeney if he does not extend his contract. 16 million dollars is a lot of cap so Freeney has to resign or be traded.

by armycolts25 on Jan 1, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

Colts should trade a pick, the 2nd rounder

Don’t forget that round 2 is now on the second day. That gives teams a night to contemplate where they are and see who slipped out of the first round.

Remember that in 2007 we traded a 2007 4th rounder and a 2008 1st rounder to move into the second to draft Tony Ugoh. The 1st pick in the 2nd round (#33 overall) could return the Colts with a great deal of future value if traded. If the Colts are going to go with Luck, it would be wise to look at the next 2-3 years as a reloading period and acquire additional picks if the value is right. This would be a great example.

by clnbailey on Jan 1, 2012 6:19 PM EST reply actions  

I like your plan

In recent years, the Patriots have shown the value of having two first round picks. They like to draft using the lowest of their picks, then trade the higher numbered one to a bad team for a first rounder the next year. The process repeats, and the Pats get quality players. This is something I’d love for the Colts to do, especially if we draft Luck and we need to surround him with young talent

by ColtsDevotee on Jan 1, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey BBS...

Why is it likely that Mathis does not come back? He was probably our best player all year and should still have several good years left. Is it a questions of economics? Wouldn’t the Colts have the money to sign him if Reggie,Saturday and/or Peyton come of the books?

by clnbailey on Jan 1, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

If they decide to start a mini (or mega) rebuild, it makes little sense to extend Mathis at the amount he would get on the open market, and thus it also would make little sense to pay him a lot to play for a bad 2012 team.

Personally, I think he’s young and able enough, and the DE position important enough as the foundation of a defense, that it’d have to take a REALLY good plan as to how to retool the defense quickly (ie, in under 2 seasons) in order to not keep him. And I think he’s likely to be the only FA retained. But anything is possible. He and Wayne and even Garcon could get some utterly ridiculous offers in FA that make it foolish for the Colts to match and retain them. Maybe not so much this year with the receivers (high supply year, thankfully), but it’s possible.

by willyduer on Jan 1, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a Vikes fan

But they did take Gerhart last year in the first. A third rb in the first would make them the new Lions.

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by 18forPrez on Jan 1, 2012 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

second round

pick 43

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by WreckNTexan on Jan 1, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet the Browns trade up to #2 to take RGIII.

by willyduer on Jan 1, 2012 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Likely scenario

With the amount of teams that need a QB, I think it is very likely that STL trades the pick for additional picks from a team that wants RG3. STL has lots of holes to fill and a trade w/CLE for CLE’s two 1st rounders would allow them to pick a top LT and a top WR for Bradford to grow..

by clnbailey on Jan 1, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

or they can chance it two picks and select him with out moving

Neither two nor three are looking for a QB

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by WreckNTexan on Jan 1, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

crazy, but not impossible

Trade 1st pick to Cleveland for both 1st round picks and 3rd round pick this year and 2nd and 4th round next year. Cleveland takes Luck, St. Louis takes Kalil, Vikes take Martin, Bucs take Claiborne, and Colts grab RG3. Then with their 22nd and 33rd picks they can begin to fill holes in the secondary, the biggest weakness on either side of the ball. They could potentially trade next year’s 2nd round pick to get another 3rd round pick this year.

Here’s a twist, they could trade that 5th pick from Cleveland to the Redskins or Dolphins for even more picks this year and next, and pick up Weeden to learn behind Peyton. It’s likely there would be less rush to put him on the field than if we draft Luck or RG3.

Think of all the “young playmakers” we could add to the roster from this scenario. Polian could both build a playoff caliber team around Peyton, strengthen the most obvious weakness, and be set for years to come when Peyton finally retires.

by James Busch on Jan 1, 2012 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

Nice thought, but

RGIII will be gone by the first Cleveland pick. Regardless fo who takes Luck at 1, someone will give up enough to get RGIII at 2.

by willyduer on Jan 1, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

draft luck so you can SUCK for the next 10 years..........

he will fit in with the Colts way of doing things ,,a WASTE OF A FIRST ROUND PICK,,

by maggot head on Jan 1, 2012 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

wrong blog buddy,

This is a COLTS blog. you must be looking for the texans, jags, or titans blog

by fanatik on Jan 1, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a Vikings fan, but the Colts have always been my 2nd fave.

That being said the Vikings won’t take Richardson, they drafted Gearhart in the 2nd round 2 years ago and he’s really stepped up. As long as Indy and Minnesota have good drafts ill be one happy guy.

by Dodger48 on Jan 1, 2012 7:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

suck for Luck will become suck with Luck.

by quimby999 on Jan 2, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

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