Devil's Take - So who's the new coach for the Colts?
So as many of you know by now, Jim Caldwell was let go by the Colts today via here. That leaves the Colts in an interesting position having just interviewed a former head coach and defensive coordinator in Steve Spagnuolo with Jim Caldwell as the active head coach.
So what then, do the the Colts do? The most high profile free agent coach, Jeff Fisher, just signed with the Rams. The remaining level of talented available coaches is quite small, and does not offer many choices for the Colts. At least, none that jump out on paper.
I wrote about this very thing in my most recent Devil's Take posted over the holiday.
As I stated in my last Devil's Take, I felt the Colts made a bungling of not hiring Fisher. He was the most established and well respected coach available at the time Irsay canned the Polians. In discussing it with a few of the Stampede Blue faithful as well as some friends, it's quite possible the new GM and Fisher would have been oil and water. Ultimately, if that was the case, I could see why Irsay would not have gone for it.
So that leaves us with a few decent names, one or two crazies, and perhaps an off the wall left field choice. Please keep in mind my choices are based on the fact I think the Colts will want an established guy this time around, to prevent the whole Caldwell backlash. Not to mention, I think the Colts really need a coach willing to play the game.
- Steve Spagnuolo - Was recently interviewed for the DC position while Caldwell was still HC. Given the keys to the kingdom so to speak in St. Louis and while he did an okay job, the franchise is just such a joke in terms of problems, I don't think he was ever going to survive. He got some good pieces, had those guys willing to play, and say what you want but his sorry ass Rams did beat the Saints a week after the Saints pasted up 60+ on us. I don't see the Colts wanting to hire him as a head coach, but I would be shocked if he isn't hired as a defensive coordinator.
- Hue Jackson - Was recently canned by the new Davis in charge of the Raiders. He lost his starting QB and managed to swing a trade for Palmer, a protege of his in Bengaldom. Managed to produce some quality offensive firepower in Cinci as well as get the Raiders rolling the last 2 seasons. I don't see him being the answer at HC here in Indy, but expect a token interview to fulfill the Rooney Rule.
- Todd Haley - Fired by the Chiefs, and I just can't see the Colts bringing him in. He's exactly what I feel the Colts don't want.
- Brian Schottenheimer - A great offensive mind like his father, he put together some of the better Jets offenses in years. Their rushing attack was absolutely fantastic, and had their QB play been better, they would have gone to the SB twice in back to back years. Still, he's never been a head coach and he's best suited as an offensive style guy. Would he be okay with taking a back seat role to Manning? Would Luck work well with this guy?
- Marvin Lewis - His days in Cinci are pretty much done, and he's endured some of the worst crap ever being a coach there. He's a capable defensive oriented coach, and he's not one to really interfere on the offensive side of the ball. From a scheme and a personality standpoint, he would work well with the Colts. However, I think if he does get let go or leaves the Bengals, I see him taking a break from the game.
- Bill Cowher - Of all my choices for HC for the Colts, this has been my choice by far. I thought as much when Dungy left, I still think it now. The problem is he's too established in the analyst role and I just think with the loss of his wife, he's done with this part of his career. I think he's the best fit for the Colts, but I honestly deep down know it's not an option.
That's my short list. I really think that if it's not one of those guys, there is pretty much only one other name we could truly come up with. And yeah, he's a pretty big one....
Jon Gruden.
Yes, I think of anyone who's still interested in coaching, he makes the most possible sense for the Colts. Whether it's Manning or Luck, he provides the most bang on offense. His desire to work with Manning is well documented, and the opportunity to school Luck would offer significant enticement as well. He's also had head coaching experience and has been to the SB and won it. Does he have faults? Absolutely. However, his failures in Tampa Bay weren't due to his coaching, it was the fact he had a team that was in decline and had made bad decisions chasing after that last ride to glory. Even the guy behind him (Raheem Morris) only managed one decent year out of his 3 seasons as a HC.
Do I think the Colts will hire him? I think he's a good decision as a potential dark horse. The question is whether or not he's even considered. If I can't get Cowher, I'd want Chuckie...
What do you think? Lemme know..
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.
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Cowher is not an option, and won’t be. Out of your list who do I want to see the most? Call me crazy but I want Jon Gruden. Complete opposite of Caldwell, full of emotion and has a very fiery attitude making him not afraid to call a player out when need be. Has also stated that he wants to coach P Nasty or Andrew Luck. Knows how to develop the hell out of a QB. Although he has been out of the coaching mix for a while, he is big enough to pull the right people in for OC and DC and other position coaches if necessary. He would instantly boost confidence and get the players on a vengeful streak. No one else on the list excites me in the least bit. Next in line of candidates should be Mike Zimmer, but my guy is Gruden.
My not so short list
Pete Carmichael
Joe Philbin
Perry Fewell
Steve Spagnuolo
Mike Zimmer
Mike McCoy
Rob Chudzinski
Greg Roman
anyone not named Caldwell.
by Dito29 on Jan 17, 2012 6:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
marty schottenheimer was a great offensive mind?
bet that’s new to him
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jan 17, 2012 6:33 PM EST reply actions
Martyball
Was quite effective in terms of success, but ultimately lost to teams who could pass better than the teams he coached. Given that I think the best QB Marty ever had was a very young Drew Brees…. I don’t really see an issue here…
by DevilsReject on Jan 17, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Bernard Joseph "Bernie" Kosar, Jr
Would like to speak with you.
I said best
I never said Marty didn’t have some good QB’s.. but the bottom line is that Kosar was never as good as Brees is…
by DevilsReject on Jan 17, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
kosar was better than brees when brees was a charger
he was once benched in favor of doug flutie. marty also had joe montana when he was old…just saying
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Jan 18, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Gruden?
Developing talent at the QB position? That is the most shocking news I have seen today! That is bigger than Caldwell. Then I remembered that you said that Marty Schottenheimer was a great offensive mind! Awesome!
Apparently
You just dont know your sports history.
The last coach prior to Schottenheimer to make the Browns relevant? You have to go back to the days before the NFL for the Browns. In fact, the last time the Browns even saw a championship game came with Schottenheimer at the helm.
Cleveland Browns
In 1980, he was hired as the defensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns. Schottenheimer became Cleveland’s head coach midway through the 1984 season, replacing fired head coach Sam Rutigliano. Schottenheimer would remain with the Browns until 1988, amassing a 44-27 (.620) regular-season record and a 2-4 (.333) mark in the playoffs, including four playoff appearances, three AFC Central Division titles, and two trips to the AFC Championship Game (both against the Denver Broncos).
Kansas City Chiefs
Schottenheimer spent 10 seasons as head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs from 1989 to 1998 recording a 101-58-1 regular season record (.634) including three division titles, seven playoff appearances, and a trip to the AFC Championship game in 1993, losing to the Buffalo Bills. After a disappointing 7–9 season in 1998, Schottenheimer resigned as Chiefs head coach on January 11, 1999.
200-126-1 (Regular Season)
I didn’t post his tenure with Washington or San Diego….but he took his style of play and made teams work. And while it’s not a true Martyball offense, teams like the Ravens, Jaguars, Niners, and to some extent the Broncos….have all been using variants of it.
by DevilsReject on Jan 17, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Gruden
Turned a has been back into a Pro Bowler, MVP player….and it wasn’t a fluke either. Rich Gannon would post some ridiculous stats after Gruden got involved in the offense.
by DevilsReject on Jan 17, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Just say NO to Tressel!!
Cowher would be my #1. Billeck #2. I’m biasl being a Hawkeye, but Kirk Farentz would be nice. He develops quality O lineman which would good for Manning or WHOEVER they draft! He is also a great motivator getting the Hawkeyes to play WELL over expectations every year. Probably won’t leave though! Makes a butt load of money here! Gruden – 50/50 on him. PLEASE stay away from former loseing HC’s. Singletary for LBC! Spags for DC!
What about Little Brother
Jay Gruden? A lot of the upsides of Jon without a lot of the baggage. Inexperience at HC coupled with an inexperienced GM could be disasterous, though.
It has been reported that Jay Gruden wants to stay
in town with the Bengals. At least currently/
by AnotherWriter on Jan 17, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Pete Carmichael Jr.
Apparently the Colts are looking for an offensive minded head coach. Pete Carmichael Jr. is interesting and I think can succeed in Indy. He’s worked with wide receivers back in SD, and he’s worked with Drew Brees and QBs in NO and is currently the OC. He knows how to work with elite QBs and he can work with Manning, Luck, or whomever. Shows he’s got the head coach in him with Sean Payton out with an injury and he called the shots pretty well.
There's only 1 true friend in life. Jack Daniels.
I think it was that Irsay didn’t want him. Fisher wanted control of the drafts, which is why his deal with Miami fell through. Irsay had just hired a great talent evaluator from Philly, so there was no way he’d give Fisher the control he wanted.
Not what Peter King reported today.
For the 67th time: Jeff Fisher does not regret passing on Indy. He didn’t want to coach there. Nothing personal. Just take my word for it.
by James Broschat on Jan 17, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I also don't think he was reached out to for the position.
There was only speculation that he was interested and was called about the job.
by AnotherWriter on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
Spagnuolo / Schottenheimer
Im intrigued by the combo of Spags for head coach and an offensive mind like Schottenheimer to run the offense
by Touchdown.Jesus on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Rob Chudzinski
I was reading his bio, and this guy has had success everywhere. They won a NCAA championship at Miami. He made Cleveland into a winner the short time he was there. He also sent 4 Browns to the pro bowl. He turned Gates into a stud TE. He turned around the Panthers offense and helped make Cam Newton into an NFL QB.
No NFL retreads....
Hire someone who made their name in college. Kirk Ferentz or Jim Tressel. The only coach the Colts need to keep, from the former staff, is Tressel. The Colts don’t need to be in a hurry to find a new coach. They should wait until after they decide on Manning’s fate with the organization. Once they move in one direction or another on Qb, then they can decide on Head Coach.
If Peyton stays, ask for his input on the next coach. If he retires, ask him if he is interested in becoming head coach. It’s a pipe dream, but if this happened, it would be the best possible outcome for the organization regarding the Qb position because you can move forward with Luck and still have him learn under Manning.
If neither of these things happen and Peyton is no longer with the organization, then you find the best available coach. If there is no Head Coach candidates left that excite Grigson, then they still have a decent backup option in Tressel.
by thomasezekiel77 on Jan 17, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions
no.
gruden is a bad coach. no way do i want that guy near the colts
Some potential candidates
Here is my list of potential HC/OC/DC: Did not include people presently working in media like Dungy, Cowher, Gruden, Billick etc.
Pete Carmichael Jr
(OC NO Saints)
Vic Fangio
(DC SF 49ers)
Kevin Gilbride
(OC NY Giants)
Joe Philbin
(OC GB Packers)
Scott Linehan
(OC DET Lions)
Chuck Pagano
(DC BAL Ravens)
Cam Cameron
(OC BAL Ravens)
Bruce Arians
(OC PIT Steelers)
Rick Dennison
(OC HOU Texans)
Marty Monrnhinweg
(OC PHI Eagles)
Out of job coaches:
Steve Spagnuolo
Hue Jackson
Tod Haley
What about?
Perry Fewell -DC NYG?
Greg Roman – OC SF
and ones u mentioned Pagano, Jackson
"You play to win the game" -Herm Edwards
by TENACIOUSDB7 on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Fangio
Has no chance – he was the DC here back in 99-01 and was not fondly remembered. He would then go to the Texans of all places..

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