Report: Colts Will Release Peyton Manning, Made Decision 'Weeks Ago'
by Brad Wells on Jan 28, 2012 7:54 PM EST
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PrintThe Indianapolis Colts will release Peyton Manning prior to the 2012 NFL Scouting Combine, or so NFL Network's Jason La Canfora is reporting. In fact, per La Canfora, the decision to part ways with Manning was made weeks ago.
"According to sources who were involved in the Colts’ GM search, the organization was planning to move on from Manning weeks ago, well before this public squabble between the quarterback and his owner," NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora said Friday on "NFL Total Access.""So Friday’s joint statement won’t be changing a thing."
La Canfora reported the Colts will make a move on Manning "almost certainly" before the start of the 2012 NFL Scouting Combine.
The NFL Scouting Combine begins February 22nd in Indianapolis, two weeks before the March 8th deadline when the Colts must decide to release or retain Manning for the 2012 season. If the team keeps Manning after March 8th, they will owe him $28 million dollars.
Now, not to take shots at La Canfora, but he's been wrong on important NFL-related stories in the past. He stated back in 2010 that it was "very likely" that the Redskins would trade disgruntled defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth during the draft that year. Adam Schefter refuted this report. Haynesworth was not traded.
That said, La Canfora has a good reputation with several folks in the business, and he's more right than wrong most of the time.
For you Colts fans out there, you need to start thinking of this team and franchise without 18 calling signals at the line of scrimmage. Regardless of whether or not La Canfora's sources are correct about a decision being made 'weeks ago,' all the signs point to the Colts and Manning parting ways.
As I've said repeatedly, this is both good for the Colts and for Peyton Manning. If Peyton is healthy and wants to win another championship, he can't do that here. Conversely, the Colts want to rebuild and usher in a 'new era.' They can't do that with Peyton hanging around. Personally, I think the Denver Broncos are the best place he could go to win another ring. The Big Lead's Jason Lisk thinks San Francisco or Baltimore. Basically, anyplace but Indianapolis.
This isn't about Peyton being 'owed' anything by the team. It's about moving on. Peyton needs to move on from the Colts, and they from him.
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The whole thing is stupid
Peyton should be able to stay a Colt
Believe in Blue.
Marshall Manning, Colts QB, 2032-
by stonewall12345678 on Jan 28, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
i doubt it
i am not saying he wont be cut for health issues but would doubt they made the decision already
I agree.
This would be stupidly premature if they have already decided. Unless it is a mutual thing…
by Wippersnapper on Jan 28, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
It does though make for a lot media storm. A lot of speculation with little to no proof. Should be interesting how much sports analyst are making reference to former greats given the walk forgetting that colts have noone proven that can take over and be successful immediately.
by kbreboot on Jan 28, 2012 10:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think La Confora is Rob Lowe's alter ego....
Believe it when it comes from Irsay or on Colts.com… too much has been guessed and has been wrong each and every time. "Irsay has stressed the Colts must be “more balanced” moving forward. That likely not only means being less reliant on the offense but having a roster that isn’t as top-heavy in terms of big-name, high-priced players."
That statement was reported online, if that is the case then while I can see this playing out (Manning being cut which unfortunately we kind of saw coming) it also seems that drafting Luck would put us right back in this situation in Luck’s third year of his rookie contract. Only his rookie contract would be favorable, after that it will mirror Manning’s and we once again invest too much in that position and we surround him with spare parts and less balanced once again for another decade just with different coaches.
Rob Lowe
Lowe’s source for his tweet was Irsay himself, or so the under current rumblings tell me. This would make things consistent with the decision to cut Manning being made ‘weeks ago.’ It also makes sense considering how Peyton reacted to Lowe’s tweet, and the Stupid Fest both Irsay and Manning engaged in this past week.
Again, I get rumors and ‘insider stuff’ emails and sent to me all the time. The chatter says Peyton will retire. I’m not buying it. I think that if he can play, he will and should. It just won’t be for the Colts.
Another rumor I am hearing is that Irsay doesn’t want Manning to play because he fears for Manning’s health.
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
now that I 100% agree
I think Irsay is more scared about Manning’s long term health than Manning is which to me with kids and a wife he should be.
Bottom line… I think we all know how this will end like watching “Titanic”. If Irsay knew this the entire time that Manning would not be here he should have cut bait well before. If Manning is going to retire then I would have offered him a position as a assistant coach or in the front office. Issue is, this is a botch job that will scar Irsay for the rest of his career especially if, as some have voiced their concerns, Luck pegs out as a bust or even just an “average” QB.
Manning
Doesn’t want a position in the Colts Coaching Staff, he wants to play!
by rk4112 on Jan 28, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agree
my point was either way this should have been handled already.
IT
Should have stayed in House, that means both MEN step up to the podium one going through Kravitz to talk about how it sucks in indy right now, then the other using twitter to bash Kravitz and call Manning a Politician…and reality is that Manning was doing that for a reason he wants to be seen as the Hero he doesn’t want to portray himself as evil. But he already did this by bashing the Organization.
i don’t care either way but irsay is the owner not a teammate regardless what manning said you don’t act like a tween on a national scale. if manning is acting like a spoiled kid then be above it and like pagano said get everyone else on the same page since irsay will still be here when manning is gone.
he will already be known as the GM who got rid of manning he doesn’t need this crap as well
That
Is how you will see him, i will not see him like that. Like you said Manning is acting like a Spoiled Kid, that is your opinion. That is not mine, but he doesn’t need to worry about how personnel actions are handled he is not the GM. IF you are a Die Hard Manning Fan you will never understand that, I am DIE HARD COLTS fan, and have been through the days of Jack Tredeau, Jeff George, Jim Harbaugh, and Manning. Most people here only know of Manning and maybe a little of Harbaugh. Yes the man has done great things for the Franchise the City and the State. But Bandwagon fans need to be ready to pack their bags too!
dude just stop it
there is no division of colts nation here. this isn’t some pissing contest about whose the greatest fans rumble so stop getting your panties in a bunch. the whole “i’m a die hard colts fan” makes you look like a fan boy with posters on the freakin wall. this whole “horseshoe” is bigger than us is cliche just shut up and lets ball. all of us are colts fans on this blog or we wouldn’t be wasting a saturday night talking sports so your no bigger fan than anyone else.
i’ve been a fan since 1984 when they first came. i know a couple fans on here that still support the team that lived in baltimore which to me are REAL 100% die hards since i don’t know how many fans would be supporting the colts if the colts had moved to LA. bottom line is both need to grow up but irsay is the owner of a billion dollar company so grow a pair and stop letting an employee, right or wrong, make you stoop to break protocol. fans wanted polian gone for this very thing, seems like he got the point from his joint release.
by BigMan74 on Jan 29, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
warning.
Anyone with the username bigman74 reeks of douche and should not be taken seriously.
by HOOSIER NOLE on Jan 29, 2012 9:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
that would be your upper lip
tell your girl to handle that.
Sad but the Bottom line is...
If he was 100% healthy he would be staying…
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 8:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
just wow
may take a year or two to clear cap space. Then I hope we can come close to replicating this past decade with Luck and all the new mgmt team & coaches in place. hard to imagine this day coming.
if we replicate the past decade then we haven't learned from our past mistakes
drafting luck #1 overall will only make sense during his first 3 years of his rookie contract. during his 4th year Irsay will have to sign him to a long term very high cap number contract which means we are not balanced… again.
whats your def of a scrub?
anyone who ISN’T Luck? Unless Luck has Tiger Blood or Manning DNA the chances are in my favor that Luck will be Matt Ryan lite. Good but not worthy of a #1 pick. Book it, remember it, take a picture for all I care.
Then your argument is flawed
Because Matt Ryan wont get a gazillion dollar contract
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 10:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
first i could care less since neither of us make any decisions so I just type on here when I’m bored.
second your talking about a team that overpaid Brackett, Sanders, Diem, gave Manning $26M even though they knew he wouldn’t play, and overpaid several other Colts so yes history is on my side they have overpaid and Luck prob could be resigned to a higher than he should contract to justify him being the “savior” after Manning by year 3. Matt Ryan signed a six-year, $72 million contract that included $34.75 million in guarantees if Luck is only AVERAGE as a #1 pick and face of the franchise he will be in that ballpark after year three of his contract.
third, gazillion.. .dude really?? who are you freakin Dr Evil?
Hopefully they take your advice
And draft a mediocre QB…because Mediocre QBs are the key to championship football
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 11:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
how long you been scouting talent?
The jags might have an open job for ya, seeing as how you’ve got it all figured out….
by HOOSIER NOLE on Jan 29, 2012 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well what do you got Mr Criticism?
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell are you talking about?
Do you just ignore the teams that are doing well? The last 10 teams in the SB and their quarterbacks:
Eli Manning
Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Kurt Warner
Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Tom Brady
Draft a scrub it is!
by Coltsfan1345 on Jan 28, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
ELi and Peyton are only #1 pick Qb’s on that list
Brady was waht 6th round?
Kurt WarNer WENT UNDRAFTED
Repelsiberger was picked #10
Rodgers was pick #22 or 23, cant recall exactly
And Drew Brees I cant remember but im pretty sure it wasnt #1 overall
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
which means?
nothing. draft luck, cut manning and roll on
Hey moron, maybe you should jump up to the post
of the guy I just called out and try and figure out who and what hes talkign about.
its why I called out his inane post
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
still means nothing
you dont have to get a qb with the #1 pick.
but you can. and we will. his name is andrew luck. get used to it
u forgot about Matt Hasselback
and Rich Gannon, and Donavan McNabb, and I forget his name, but the below avg QB who took the Panthers to the SB agaisnt Brady and the Pats, etc
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
jake delhome!!
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Jan 29, 2012 6:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
LOL
My argument was that you need an elite QB to win in the NFL. All those QBs are elite.
Not even sure what you’re arguing. I don’t give a shit what picks those guys were. Stop telling me useless and irrelevant information I already know.
by Coltsfan1345 on Jan 29, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Actually,we get him for more than three eyars cheaply
The way the rookie deals are structured now, we won’t have to sign Luck to a new, long-term contract until his sixth season. The first four years are covered by the initial rookie contract, and all rookie contracts now carry a club option for a fifth year. If the option is exercised, the player must be paid the average of the top 10 players at his position (so it’s kind of a franchise tag, but not as expensive), so the player is well compensated for that fifth year.
Sure, Luck could hold out, but probably wouldn’t do that until the fourth year, and he still wouldn’t have any actual recourse — he’s got to play to get paid and accrue time for free agency.
going by the list by Coltsfan1345
not one except peyton was called “elite”. on that list above (except eli which if he wins next sunday MIGHT be called elite but wasn’t coming out) they were lower picked QB’s or UFA’s.
about time the players we draft with luck or afterwards when its time to re-up we’re doing the same thing we did with manning and re-up luck to high end cap numbers while loosing balance on the team. well… unless luck sucks and then we cut bait but then fans like us would have proved our point that he was overrated and we should have went in a different direction. i will cheer either way, just my two cents.
I don't get the fear of having paying an elite QB
I’ve said it before in other threads, the money we paid Peyton has never been the problem with this team. Yes, we paid him a ton. But he’s also been a stellar player, winning 4 MVPs and taking us to two Super Bowls (winning one), so he’s been worth it.
The problem isn’t, wasn’t and has never been Peyton. It’s been a two-fold problem. The first part is all the other people we signed who didn’t live up to their contracts: Bob Sanders, Kelvin Hayden, Gary Brackett, Ryan Diem. The second part is that we went too offense-heavy, putting the bulk of our cap dollars on the offensive side of the ball. That meant the offense had to carry the team. And since the offense ran through Peyton, it meant HE had to carry the team. We’re not a one-player team because of a lack of talent; we became a one-player team because that’s the way the team was built!!!
Yes, I want to see a more balanced team. But that doesn’t mean I want a sub-par QB. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I’d rather have Peyton/Brady than Joe Flacco and an extra $5M in cap space!
It would be magical if Peyton reconstruct, chuck change the defense like wade Phillips did and we win another superbowl!
But that’s not reality… I tell you what:
At the end of the day it will be good for all the parties involved. Colts will rebuilt in a perfect situation with or without Peyton. And don’t worry about Peyton, he will be fine where ever. I think he will win a SB or 2 As a jets, 49ers, redskins or dolphins! Yes he is that good
We will all miss him but hopefully for a year or 2 until Bruce Arian developed Luck
by Nojan on Jan 28, 2012 8:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don’t believe the hype. I’ll wait for concrete news, like when it actually happens, before I face it. We all should be prepared for the worst, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t expect the best. Real Talk…
"Think wrongly if you please, but in all cases think for yourself" - Doris Lessing
by JohnHandburgers on Jan 28, 2012 8:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Also
Now I don’t think most of the veterans will be back. Including Mathis!! I love the guy but if he want full contract, why wouldn’t colts just sign a experienced 3-4 OLB
by Nojan on Jan 28, 2012 8:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Could it be...
that Irsay and Manning reached a “gentleman’s agreement” weeks/months ago that Manning would be set free, but Irsay delayed making it official so as to allow Peyton to retain access to Colts training staff and facilities for as long as possible in his rehab efforts?
Yes
That is certainly a possibility.
Also, consider that the No. 1 story this week should be the Super Bowl, not COLTS CUT PEYTON MANNING!
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
Then why turn into little girls about it?
Why take it public with twitter and Kravitz? Why would Irsay then take the chance of a PR nightmare by publicly bashing the face of the franchise…the teams most popular player….the reason why the Colts are who we know them to be today? Makes no sense why Irsay would take this tact.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 28, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You give to much credit
Irsay didn’t bash the face of the franchise…he just responded to peyton’s comments, peyton is the one who bashed Irsay and the Organization by saying that it was not a healthy place to be and recover. Everyone is walking on eggshells! Well they should be after a horrible season, it is business sorry to say and Peyton’s feelings are hurt because all the people that he worked with growing up were released, what did he think was going to happen, the colts stay in limbo until we get the shocking discovery that he is not at 100% and can’t play even after march 8th when we will have paid him yet again another 28 million for him to not pass a physical and not be able to play. You all are ridiculous.
I do not think so
I just don’t think the Colts know that decision at this time….Arians to O coord………Christensen to WR coach….to much going on for them to know and to son to know about his health….there is not even any necessary reason to make the decision now….maybe I am wrong cause I love my boy Peyton Manning….he is a bad man as a QB….I hate to see him not be a Colt if he is healthy….not yet…couple years…yeah…I think he has some more magic left in him…but I am sure in not to long down the road we will all know the real deal….
Peyton Manning
would be a great fit on the Chiefs! If Peyton does not experience significant injuries at kc, he could win a few more rings until it’s time to call it quits.
If Manning is released
The I want him to go to a team where he can win 2 or 3 more rings to solidify he is GOAT to all the people who judge QBs based on rings.
I will root for him no matter where he goes, even to the a hated rival.
Manning 2009 MVP
by INDYCOLTSROCK18 on Jan 28, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions
I agree
If this is true, I hope he goes somewhere where he can win. However, I would have a very hard time rooting for him if he plays for certain teams.
by Guy LeDouche on Jan 28, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
But ultimately I don’t see this team winning a championship in next 2-3 years so I’m ok with any team he is on winning as ultimately he will/should be the reason for it.
Manning 2009 MVP
by INDYCOLTSROCK18 on Jan 28, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
I also will root for him!
Unless he plays the Colts then I hope we win 77-0!
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 8:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
a few teams I think would be intriguing would be Miami, Baltimore, and the 49ners. If he goes to the Jets I just could not root for him.
One thing’s for sure… if he plays against the Colts with Luck and he’s healthy he will kick the living **** out of the Colts each time.
What?
I also think many COLT fans have been spoiled with stellar play from the QB position. Most of us GM’s in training will be in for a reality check unless we get “lucky”. Hahaha get it? Lucky? Hahaha… I know, I got problems….
"Think wrongly if you please, but in all cases think for yourself" - Doris Lessing
by JohnHandburgers on Jan 28, 2012 8:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I really don't get the backlash
I think anyone that has followed this situation can figure if he was 100% healthy it’s a no brainer that he stays…
It’s not like he tore an ACL or broke a collarbone…this is a more serious injury and he clearly isn’t healthy yet…
Based on the 2-14 season it would be foolish of Irsay not to find another QB opinion and to pay him almost 30mil when he may not be ready to play by training camp.
I assume PM will rehab all spring and perhaps be ready to play by June/July…
I just disagree that Irsay is being disloyal or throwing Manning away like trash. Because if they were they would have banned him from the facility like Steve McNair. Irsay could do better PR work than he has but we all know Manning will have a statue in front of the Luke
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 8:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Backlash
The backlash is from folks who are scared of change, and that fear is natural. Many fans of the team only know Manning as the QB
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
by Brad Wells on Jan 28, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah...
If I rooted for Mike fcking Pagel I will root for Andrew Luck…
I never respected or liked bandwagon fans…I know some of the people here are young and haven’t seen anything else. But others just float from team to team based on how good they are…
Those clown ass posers can bounce! Go slurp the Packers Lions or Saints…
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 8:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Preach!
"Think wrongly if you please, but in all cases think for yourself" - Doris Lessing
by JohnHandburgers on Jan 28, 2012 9:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but there's the other side
fans who will jump off the Colts if they don’t take Luck. I see a lot of those idiots as well. yeah there are the fans that will leave if manning leaves which I def like the way he plays but come on… really? I’ve been a fan since 86 so I’m not going anywhere.
I am on the fence with Luck regardless if manning stays or not since like i told you earlier i take a balanced team and don’t need high end cap stars anymore. been there done that the last 10 – 12 years with several one and outs in the playoffs.
Recent SB winning QBs
Brady 3x
P Manning
E Manning
Rothlisberger 2x
Johnson
Brees
Rodgers
All franchise QBs except Johnson…
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 10:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
here we go... again
nice try ridah but let me break it down here…
- Brady 6th rounder who BECAME an elite QB along with a great HC. he was NOT elite coming out. matter of fact they still make fun of his combine photos on certain sites.
- Big Ben not a “elite #1” coming out of college like your saying Luck is. he really was not a elite QB even during the SB years and instead had one of the best OL and defenses in the game when he won. look at his SB and playoff numbers and they won despite him. even now I would take moore from miami than him.
- Johnson, won’t even touch that as that makes my case big time.
- Brees 2nd rounder who was a after thought that ONLY NO wanted and he also got with an excellent HC and amazing team but was NOT an elite QB coming out.
- Rodgers was NOT an elite QB coming out and had TERRIBLE mechanics coming from Cal which took him 3 years to fix. Not considered “elite” until now.
- Eli Manning was not classified as “elite” coming out. he was just better than Rivers who they said had an attitude out of NC state. Eli even this year is still not ELITE once in a generation QB like you say Luck is.
- Manning is the measuring stick for “elite” QB’s however for all his “greatness” was one and done or failed miserably in the playoffs except two years. other NON ELITE QB’s drafted much later… multiple SB’s.
Those QB’s you mentioned are pulled out of fans a** each debate but they keep overlooking the fact they BECAME elite, they were not ordained as such coming out. Of course I will cheer for Luck since he’s on the team and I want the team to win but after his 3rd year and he’s just managing games like Flacco does I will STILL think we could have got another player without using the #1 pick on him and using up big money to pay him like we did with manning and surround him with spare parts.
since 1990 only the mannings have lived up to their #1 pick status so unless archie was at ms luck’s house and andrew has manning DNA the deck is stacked against Luck being just being serviceable or a bust. before manning you have to go back to 1999 to have a #1 pick win a SB (elway) and that was only when he was about to retire and got a run game and defense. before that got to go back to 1993 and Aikman who some STILL think was overrated since he had all those weapons and defense. check out this link and state why you think we NEED a ELITE QB to win a SB…. http://football.about.com/cs/superbowl/a/sbquarterbacks.htm
You're arguing different things
Ridah’s point is that 9 of the past 10 Super Bowl winners have had genuine franchise QBs. This is true.
You’re arguing that franchise QBs can be found after the first pick. This is also true.
It doesn’t change the fact that having a franchise QB is the single biggest move you can make to make your team a competitor year-in and year-out. It doesn’t change the fact that the Colts might HAVE to take a QB because their franchise player might never play again. And while you can find elite QBs later in the draft, you probably shouldn’t pass on the best prospect in the draft if you need one, and hope that the second or third or fourth best prospect will be better.
now that... i agree.
logical, concise, without the argumentative high calorie count. nice job.
my issue with that is while luck may be the experts #1 pick the team should not just take him for that reason alone out of pressure. another point was you can’t fault fans like me who are not sold on luck being a #1 pick (especially ones who have watched him in person the last 3 years) hence why i agree we need to get a QB I would rather invest in building a team that doesn’t NEED to rely on the QB to go to the SB.
but no one knows for another 3 years so who knows… see what happens when fans are civilized and can agree and disagree without the name calling…
So sad
As a die hard Colts fan, that is sad to hear. We will see how many newbies remain in three years after some mediocre seasons.
"Think wrongly if you please, but in all cases think for yourself" - Doris Lessing
by JohnHandburgers on Jan 28, 2012 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Irsay is treading a slippery slope taking it to twitter though.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
THANK YOU!!!
Irsay is not being disloyal, Who hear really thinks that paying a man that is 36 years old $28Million to just complete his rehab and not play or the chance at not playing is SMART!! IF you do then you should pack your bags and follow manning where ever he lands his next gig at, cause you are a Manning Fan NOT i repeat NOT a COLTS FAN
As I have said repeatedly....
…cutting Manning is a dumb move.
Looks like Wells has an axe to grind every time he writes something. First it was the GM, then the ridiculously cheap photo montage of Caldwell. It is only time till he says something about Peyton’s mother….
'Looks like Wells has an axe to grind every time he writes something.'
And what axe do I have to grind again Peyton Manning and Jim Irsay? Are you going to back that up with anything, or are you just going to ramble on like the troll you seem to be.
P.S., Peyton’s mother… is a fine-looking lady.
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
I’m usually very critical about many of BBS’s articles but he is right on this one. Peyton will not be here next year. All Brad is doing is pointing out all of the evidence.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
by bbxxj on Jan 28, 2012 9:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that photo montage was hella cheap
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Jan 29, 2012 6:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
A simple question...
If the Colts release Manning, is it possible that he resigns with a new contract? I’m just curious if it’s possible. That is all.
I would doubt it.
One would assume that at this point in his career manning is looking to win the super bowl again and the colts just have too many flaws even with a healthy manning to be viewed as real contenders.
Too many flaws
I don’t quite understand why everyone believes that the Colts are now the Browns or something. The team is only a few good players at key positions away from being SB contenders again. The QB is the most important role obviously and that’s why Manning took this same team to 10 wins last year.
Also keep in mind that the Giants went 9-7 this year and are now in the Super Bowl so to act like the only teams that can win it all are 14-2 juggernauts is ignorant.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 28, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Probably because we were worse than the Browns this year
And lost to them at home. If a 2-14 season without Peyton doesn’t make you realize that this team will only Peyton Manning and nothing else, than I’m really not sure what will.
This season says that if Manning hypothetically played for every team in the NFL, we would be the worst team in the NFL.
Sorry, this team is deeply flawed.
by Coltsfan1345 on Jan 28, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, possible.
But for a host of reasons, I think it is unlikely. First is the health question, which none of us know the answer to (but we can assume that, as of right now, Manning can’t go). The Colts are almost certain to draft Luck, and I think Manning—the professional that he is—will be mindful not to step on the kid’s opportunity. Plus, with the Colts, Manning would probably be asked to take up the added responsibility of mentoring Luck—he may not want that “distraction” during the playing season. Plus, the Colts are probably not the most competitive team Manning could go to. And this is all outside of the effect it would have on Luck.
by Wippersnapper on Jan 28, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Finally I can move on mentally
this subject has had me going crazy. I wish the best for Peyton Manning #18 may you have a future in whatever path you choose to take. Colts fan since I was 12yrs old 98" old Colts fan forever!
"Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude."
This whole thing hurts my soul, folks.
Watching #18 win elsewhere… Ugh. If true, I just hope it’s for the best.
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by Stew Blake on Jan 28, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
ditto
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, STFU
Just because fans are sad to see Manning go doesn’t make them “Not Colts fans”. You’re just a moron.
by Coltsfan1345 on Jan 28, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
NOT a Moron
I don’t wish to see Manning leave if he is healthy and can play, I like Manning but I don’t own a Manning Jersey. Even so the Jersey deal don’t matter What matters is his health. IF he can’t pass a physical then he should be cut. I hate for it to be that way, but it is that way. The COLTS need more than a QB they need more than just one position, we are hurting all around on the Offensive side and especially on the Defensive side of the Ball. You don’t keep someone on who can’t physically perform. Irsay did it and paid the man to roam the sidelines. So DON’T think that he hasn’t gotten what he deserves he has and then some!
Most people are in agreement that if he is not healthy by March 8 he has to be cut
And we’re all sad about that. That doesn’t make us “not Colts fans” or only “Peyton Manning fans”. Hell, I’m ready to buy my Luck jersey and I’m excited for this new era. But at the same time I’m quite sad to see my favorite athlete of all time leave. There will never be another one like him.
by Coltsfan1345 on Jan 28, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Most people
Most people don’t call others Morons for making posts that make since. There are a ton of people on here that say they will take their business to whatever team Manning goes to. The post is addressed to who it applies! If it don’t apply to you then just let it in one ear and out the other, don’t call people morons for calling people out!
You replied to someone that said
“It will be a sad day in Colts history”
You’re right, that makes him a bandwagon fan because he’s sad about the best player in franchise history leaving. I called you a moron because that post makes no sense.
Anyway, I don’t see many people saying that they’re going to jump on whatever bandwagon Manning goes to. And if I did, I would just ignore them because bandwagon fans aren’t even worth my time to respond.
by Coltsfan1345 on Jan 28, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
I will say this
If you think that there are not Bandwagon fans on this Site who care about manning more than the colts you are the MORON.
BUT i will take your advice and not reply to people who are bandwagon fans!
BUT arguing with you about them is not worth my time either!
people don't get called morons for posts that make sense
just posts that make since
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Jan 29, 2012 6:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It was expected an end of an era I hope that he does play again because I enjoy watching him play and nobody’s career should end with them on the sideline looking at Jim Caldwell call an ill fated timeout and go WTF? as your team is booted out from the playoffs.
To think that was his last Colts game makes me ill.
I wish him well (except against us)
You just made me feel that much worse...
I hadn’t taken time to reflect that what might have been Peyton’s last game as a Colt was that WTF-timeout blunder from Caldwell that probably cost the Divisional playoff game. Ugh.
by Wippersnapper on Jan 28, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry but that’s why if Manning is gone from the Colts it sucks but I can accept it because eventually he was going to leave BUT I would like for him to finish his career on his terms if he can so if he went elsewhere and managed to be productive possibly win another SB I’d be happy for him.
(as long as its not against us)
What a dilemma that would be
if Manning faced the Colts in the Super Bowl. I’m a Colts fan first, but how hard would it be to root against Manning with a chance to cement his legacy as one of the (if not the) GOAT. Let’s not think about it.
by Wippersnapper on Jan 28, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Highest rated Super Bowl ever
As a Colts fan, that would be the ultimate heart wrenching game….watching my favorite team go up against my favorite player.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 28, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
if Manning faced the Colts in the Super Bowl. I’m a Colts fan first, but how hard would it be to root against Manning with a chance to cement his legacy
Sheeeeeeeeiiiiiiiitttt!
I would hope the colts win and Manning throws 5-6 pics…
His legacy ain’t sh*t over a Colts Super Bowl…
Against anyone else I hope he wins!
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 10:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thank you
Manning is a Great guy, A Great QB, but when it comes down to it the Colts is what it is all about, not Number 18, it is like Irsay said about the HORSESHOE!
The mere thought
That one would consider rooting for Manning to beat the Colts is sheer lunacy
Unless my own son grows up to be a QB and faces the Colts I will root for them to win every game by 50+ points!
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 11:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
colts vs peyton in the super bowl
that is easy. screw peytons legacy. if that is even tough for you then you have problems
how hard???
not hard at all…. don’t get me wrong, i love peyton, and i hope to hell that he is healthy and the colts keep him and he wins us another superbowl or 2 but if he leaves and it was the colts or him in the superbowl, sorry, i am a colts fan. I was a colts fan before him and will be after him. Now if the colts aren’t involved in the game, then yeah i would root for him, but him against the colts, he would equal brady…..
peyton throws 8 TD's and wins
cementing his legacy as the best ever and making us look eternally stupid for showing him the door.
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Jan 29, 2012 6:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Mistake
As a Colts fan of 46 years, all I can say is. If Irsay cuts a HEALTHY PEYTON MANNING it will be the second biggest mistake the Colts have ever made. The first being running out of Baltimore in the middle of the night!
If Manning was heathy Irsay wouldn't cut him...
Duh!
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Really
I agree with you. If indeed that is how you feel. But read the endless BS people write on these sites. All the New B fans want Manning gone to save money and move on with Luck. Now everyone is saying it has been a done deal for weeks. March 8th is a month away and if anything is done before that, he was never going to stay. That to me shows Irsays intent all along.
But he isn't healthy...
If he was Irsay wouldn’t cut him period…
I’m sure Peyton will keep pushing an ls hopefully be ready by summer
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 10:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Isn't Healthy
Has it been proven by Doctors if he is or isn’t? I have heard of NO deffinative answers eitherway. I am not saying he should stay or play anywhere if not at least 95% by March 8. But how could you cut him without knowing for sure? And it sounds more and more like that is what is going to happen.
If he was healthy he would say so...
He wouldn’t be rehabbing if he was healthy
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 11:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Beg to differ
He will always be rehabing in one way or another. Doesn’t mean it can’t be healed.
If you're not injured you don't need to rehab
Obviously. It doesn’t mean it can’t be healed, but everyone seems to think he won’t be 100% by the deadline. That would be the only reason to release him, and if he is released, we can infer that he was not healthy.
by Coltsfan1345 on Jan 28, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Why not at least give it to the deadline though
and keep him in the loop? I think he’s earned that.
by Ayrshire on Jan 28, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Giving it to the deadline
Not sure why you wouldn’t either. Not even sure what this report means. My take is that GM candidates probably wanted to know what Irsay is going to do with the Manning situation, and I’m guessing Irsay told them something like We’re preparing to go on without Manning/cut him and draft Luck. But honestly this report is not clear at all.
by Coltsfan1345 on Jan 28, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
It's been a while...
I don’t think he will magically be well in five weeks
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 11:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Injury's?
Just wondering if you have ever had a serious injury? I have. Healed 100%. But I still have to go to rehab from time to time. I for one will wait until March 8 to see what the Doctors opinions are.
Unless you play professional contact sports no one cares about your injuries dude your
FOH!
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 11:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This guy compares himself
To a Person who gets routinely pounded by 6’3 260 pound men that run a 4.5!
What BS
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 11:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Compare
I never compared myself to anyone. I asked a simple question and stated a simple fact. WOW! Must have struck a Nerve. Hope it heals. Take a little time to rehab. And FYI. Manning never got routinely pounded by anyone. First major injury in 14 years.
by shoospa on Jan 29, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When all is said and done this whole thing will end up being one of those 30 for 30 documentaries on ESPN
by CF4L on Jan 28, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
A football great once said
that the NFL is a young man’s game and it’s true. It’s not made for 36 year olds. Favre was 40 playing with 24 year olds. He was as old as some of the coaches. Peyton standing on that sideline all stiff and old looking made me feel sorry for him. This stupid injury is ending what few good years he had left. I don’t want to see him working out hard so he can play another year for some team. I want him to retire healthy, get a job with the Colts like Irsay wants and go home to his kids every night.
But its not about what Irsay wants it about what Manning wants its his career. If he wants to play another year elsewhere and can he should.
If he can’t well it sucks and it truly sucks that Rob Lowe outed Manning’s retirement if it comes to that. Its Manning’s career he should be able to retire when he says so.
True
but if his health is in danger then people who love him should try to stop him. that’s what friends and family do. Manning is controlled by his intense desire to play QB. I would hope his wife would stop him if it were dangerous.
Then why hasn’t Archie tried. You hear Archie talk about Manning wanting to come back and be healthy maybe he’s doing that to save face for his son but at least I can respect that more than Rob Lowe etc putting out that that Manning is going to retire.
What a d-bag its his career let him say it if so. What a liar saying he doesn’t know how powerful Twitter is.
It's not dangerous
that’s why no one close to him has come out to urge him to retirement. This is a nerve regeneration issue, not a spinal issue.
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by AceOfSpades on Jan 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
holding all major passing records does in fact qualify you as a great QB
regardless of his cock-showing douchebaggery
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by muncie_in_this on Jan 29, 2012 6:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Jim Brown
went out early and on top. Barry Sanders happily retired early and could have gotten the all time rushing mark. They moved on to lives outside of the NFL.
Yes but they chose to do so. Why can’t you provide that courtesy to Manning. Manning feels he can play and if he’s capable I hope he does.
If not well he has to deal with it.
Well said.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
What do you all want Irsay to do?!
Do you want him to give Manning 28mil even though he isn’t healthy…
If Manning was 100% and getting blown out the door I’d be here agreeing with you
But are you all saying you love Manning more than the Colts to the point that you are willinno blow up your cap for someone who may not play?
If that’s how you feel fine but just come out and say that you follow Manning and don’t really care about the Colts moving forward. Kinda like MJ and the Bulls. Just don’t try to spin that it’s best for the franchise!
If Manning was healthy he would absolutely be the Colts QB and you all know this!
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 10:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think people here are sad to see him go after all we did watch him for 14 years(well really 13 he missed this season)
However yes this had to be done for the best of the Colts.
I just hate the lack of tact on Irsay’s part. I mean really if you are going to release him why the delay?(besides the SB coming to town that I understand)
This is overshadowing the SB and it shouldn’t.
If Manning hadn't said anything it wouldn't have fanned the flames
Irsay obviously was letting him rehab at the facility…and didnt want it o overshadow. He gaffes taking to twitter over it but they are both culpable IMO
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 10:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn’t think what Manning said was so bad he was sad to see people he was close to let go but he knew it was a business.
However Irsay overreacted.
As Brad Said they were both acting like idiots
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 10:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think what Manning did was calculated but not idiotic he didn’t really trash the Colts.
Regardless Irsay is the owner and he’s coming across as an immature teenager.
by CF4L on Jan 29, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah respectable owners don’t go on Twitter
You don’t see Kraft(who I don’t even like) go on Twitter same with Rooney, Mara etc.
Really if you want it kept in house then don’t Tweet about house business.
wrong
irsay is very respectable
there is nothing wrong with him being on twitter. who cares if you dont like it. who are you to tell him what to do?
Its a matter of opinion I think he’s a tool
You think he’s great
Cool.
Just find it hypocritical for you to say you want things in house yet use Twitter to talk about house business.
your opinion is wrong
its irsays business. he can do what he wants.
my mother used to say “do as i say and not as i do”
that applies here
Of course he can
Doesn’t mean I still don’t think he’s a tool for how he handles said business.
And opinions are just that opinions and yours is no better than mine.
by CF4L on Jan 29, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes it is
my opinion is better than yours. since it is the right one
Congratulations OmahaColt
You have officially won, “the biggest douche in the universe award”
Enjoy going to DisneyWorld
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
i didnt even know i was a finalist
just goes to show you. i am a winner. like andrew luck
He can do what he wants,
regardless of how stupid it makes him look. I get it.
by Ayrshire on Jan 29, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what a shitty moms
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Jan 29, 2012 6:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Agree
I just wish that Irsay would stay off twitter when voicing his displeasure about anything Manning does. They should handle this like men, and like professionals, face to face instead of publicly.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 28, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Once Again Thank you
Yes most people are saying that! Pay him let him stay in Indy and Retire from here. Blow all our cap space and give him the $28 Million, forget about the rest of the GAPING holes in our defense!
YES if Manning was Healthy even if we had some report that said yes he is at 90% right now and things are looking up then OK we wait. Have we heard that news, NO so to me that tells me something that he is not healthy and he is not on track.
I am amazed...
that people are this gullible. There is no way; absolutely NONE, that anyone involved in this process, who is in a position to make such a statement, would have leaked it.
I don’t know what’s going to happen. I do know that this supposed insight is not credible. Where’s the upside? Why would anyone in the know have run their mouth and made this public?
I’m pretty sure the decision in question will be made by Jim Irsay, and this didn’t come from him. My guess is it’s more attention-whore media nonsense, some sad little dude trying to make a name for himself. This kind of crap really serves no other purpose.
I agree but I still think Manning will be released and they did make this decision ages ago I just don’t buy JLC breaking news about this though.
Wouldn’t it be something if Bill Polian was the “source”
I think it's entirely BS
I do get suspicious when I hear Irsay talk about “health concerns” and especially when he says a guy could fail one teams physical yet pass anothers (?) but this BS “breaking story” says the decision was made weeks ago. Weeks ago, Irsay was on Thursday Night Football saying if Peyton Manning was healthy he would be playing for the Colts next year. The Polians hadn’t been fired yet.
I still think if Manning is back to 100% he’s too good to cut him when you can still get one more year of out of him. If you can put a decent team (better than the 2011 Colts) out there with him you’re a contender. Things can change FAST in the NFL (look at the Niners & Lions) and you don’t get many shots at the title. You don’t flush them down the toilet. I think Jim Irsay knows this, and I think this decision has yet to be made, just like they’ve been saying.
I’m with you…but don’t discount the fact that Irsay is the biggest attention whore out of them all
Not saying it happened, but I can just imagine him sitting there on the phone with Rob Lowe – a few drinks in him – a few comments by Lowe stroking his ego – and Irsay wanting to reciprocate so he starts yammering on about how he needs to make the hard decisions since he’s such a powerful man – and sure enough…details about him wanting to get rid of Manning slip out
by manningtoharrison on Jan 29, 2012 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
this hurts
I grew up in Tennessee watching him and to see him released by my favorite team like this makes it hurt even worse, can we retire his jersey? Please? 18forLife
by StuckInTennessee on Jan 28, 2012 11:26 PM EST reply actions
Not that La Canfora hasn't been wrong, but he's a pretty darn reliable source of breaking news
when you have that volume of breaks you’re bound to have a source error like Haynesworth. Sometimes, albeit rarely, false leads are a way of organizations testing for leaks.
I’m sure this is true. I’ve been wrong before, but I’m confident. I think Irsay is smart enough that if there was any prospect of Peyton getting healthy within a reasonable frame of time, he would have ate the 28 million bucks.
I think it’s not a question of where Peyton will play next, but at his juncture you have to wonder if he’ll ever play again. I certainly can’t wish such a prolific player poorly, I hope he makes a full recovery and exits on his own terms.
With all of that said, if you had to lose Peyton, what better time than when you have the #1 pick in a draft class with very strong early QB prospects? I wouldn’t count the Colts out.
Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
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It maybe premature to release him...
But I think once the injury lingered on and Irsay cleaned house his hand was forced as Manning’s presence affects the draft strategy the cap and resigning current Colts player etc
It’s not quite as simple as waiting until March 8. At some poor one runs out of time and the organization has to move forward. I wish he had been 100% by Thanksgiving but it didn’t go that way so im GLAD this is a year to get a QB prospect that can come in immediately.
I actually think that the Colts will be better sooner than most of you think with Mr Luck. He is pretty freakin good for a rookie. If they draft well and use the cap space to boost the line perhaps Brown steps up an becomes a 800-900 yard back…with Carter getting the tough yards.
If they keep some of the vets and can get some help on D and the OL I think they can win 8 games next year…
For a rookie QB to have Garçon (assuming they sign him) Collie Dallas (as cutting him saves little $) ain’t that bad. These are guys who have played in big games and performed.
The rookies all seemed to get hurt to adding Drake and Ijalana will be big!
I’m not saying that 13 win seasons are in the horizon but I think this team will surprise and by 2014 will be back in the playoffs
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 28, 2012 11:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't
have any type of sentimental attachment to Peyton Manning. I’ve never met him and I was never a fan of his in college. I think that makes it easier for me to want to see him shown the door. To me, Manning sounded like a whining kid. He was acting like the Polians and Caldwell were done wrong. No, they were just shown the door. Just because there was a turnover in staff doesn’t mean he can’t rehab. Doesn’t he play for himself and his teammates???? Why didn’t he act that way when Marvin was let go, or Edge, or Bob Sanders? You pick your stuff up and move on. Both Manning and Irsay are at fault for this public spectacle but it seemed like Manning was the one to air his dirty laundry. BTW, his contract was NOT friendly. It would be friendly if he was only making around 5 mil. With that being said, the Colts should have a PM day at the first home game. Retire his jersey and have a love fest at half time. After that, let him go and spend time with his family. Thank you Mr. Manning for all you’ve done but I am a Colts fan and you are not bigger than the team.
by Dito29 on Jan 29, 2012 12:01 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Marvin, Edge, Bob, vs #18
You are making an apples to oranges comparison here.
Peyton means so much more to the Colts than those guys ever could have
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Irsay just tweeted
No he hasn’t been released nor was a decision reached weeks ago
no music lyrics, no riddles
im done
I’m done reading all these tweets n post of….Sources say that Colts have already made the decision that they will b releasing Peyton or he isn’t goin to b 100%! Blah blah blah to all the non sense when I see it or hear it come from the mouth of Peyton or Irsay I will believe it!!!! In my opinion if he is atleast 75% he will b back n HE WILL B A COLT but if he isn’t atleast 75% he will retire which is smart on his behalf! I think that Indianapolis n the organization is doing him completely wrong!!! He has done nothin wrong to b treated this way it isn’t his fault he got this injury!!!! Peyton will n always will b one of the greatest players of the game n one of my ALL TIME favorite players!!!!
by Marvelous Marvin on Jan 29, 2012 1:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Abject Ignorance
Some of these comments up far earlier make me sick! Firstly, does anyone here truly understand the cap implications? Even releasing PM now, you still take a 10 million hit to the 120 cap in 2012; if you keep him , the 28M doesn’t count all next yr! It’s prorated over the next 4 years! You free up about 10 M next yr by releasing him now, hardly enough to makeover this roster! You also turn austin collie, garcon, clark from great WR to mediocre instantly! You lose the strongest leader, and the best QB of all time!
we just saw them with painter and danny o
you don’t think they will be better with mr. luck
what does your reply, have anything to do with his post?
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Irsay
What do you expect him to tweet? Yes, we r releasing him before the combine", come on!
Wait till September
I dont see why you wouldn’t pay the bonus, and wait till the nerve regenerates, it may with another 6 months to heal? do u really want to waive him in March, then see that he can play come September?! And as for Luck, he has played not a single down in NFL, pls don’t tell me he is the next PM; anyone who appreciates football knows he is one of a kind!
Great strategy...
Give someone who missed all last season and still isn’t healthy 28mil…
Don’t draft a Luck as a replacement…get a 4-5th round QB instead
If Manning isn’t healthy he can stand on the sidelines a second consecutive year an they can start Dan Orlovsky
Is the goal to win games or to Make everyone happy by seeing 18 retire a colt
I’m pretty sure if he was healthy Irsay would keep him
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 29, 2012 2:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
vali
dumbest idea i have heard in a long time
omaha
I didn’t say to NOT take Luck, I just said to wait till September on PM. Why is that dumb?
look up the words "salary cap"
and then understand what it means and then get back to me
Biggest Douche in the Universe
omaha is just showing off the only award he has, ignore the 15 year old troll
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Don't waste your time
on these guys! All they do is troll around and twist your words to try and force there opinoins on you. They are NOT worth it. There are alot of true fans of both Manning and the Colts that want to wait until March 8 to see for sure the outcome.
by shoospa on Jan 29, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because the contract runs well past September
If you pay the $28M, you don’t have the luxury of waiting until Sept. You’ve committed to 3-4 of Manning.
Consider this. If you pay Peyton the $28M, you now have, $44M worth of bonus money to count against the cap over the next 4 years (the $28M roster bonus, as well as $16M of the $20M signing bonus he got last year). If Manning then says in September ‘Hey, I can’t play," and retires, the team immediately takes a $44M cap hit (as all outstanding bonus money becomes due that year). That’s 1/3rd of the cap — we’d have to cut every player making decent money just to field a team. That wouldn’t just be salary cap hell for a year — that would set the team back for YEARS.
Say Peyton plays one year, then decides to retire — that’s a $33M cap hit. While better than $44M, it’s still roughly 1/4 the total cap and would devastate the team.
Now do you see why paying Manning the money and hoping is silly and dangerous? If he’s not ready to go, if there’s any doubt at all, you have to cut him, or you risk destroying the entire team.
BBS Stew or Matt
Can you please post an entry to the fans explaining the cap ramifications. So people will have some clarity on why they have to release Manning!
I don’t think people really get that if they sign him and he can’t play they will be belly up on the cap for 3-4 years and basically ruin the franchise beyond repair!
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 29, 2012 5:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Go to Sports Authority
they already did soo. The 2 can co-exist for 2 years b4 it hurts the cap significantly and we woudl have to rrade or cut one of them, most likely Manning
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
But what about year three?
Sure, we can afford to keep them both for two years, cap-wise. But what happens year three? You cut Manning, and you take a $22M cap hit. That’s not as ruinous as a Manning retiring this year or next, but it’s still a pretty big hit.
To be palatable, Manning would have to play at least 3 years. Cutting him after that would be an $11M hit, which is survivable. But that’s a pretty risky bet.
So, Peyton could be cut before Curtis Painter?
How is that even possible?
by captaincomeback on Jan 29, 2012 2:14 AM EST reply actions
Curtis Painter is still making progress.
Just ask Polian and Caldwell.
LOL
I bad mouthed you for your constant and unending anti-Polianism, but that reply was dead on
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Glad I could say something
to entertain you dezznutz1001.
Brilliant Fanbase
Lets pay Manning 1/5 of the 2012 salary cap rather healthy or not and hope he is healthy by training camp
Drafting Luck is foolish because if he is good they will have to give him a huge deal in 4-5 years…so they should draft a late rounder instead
Manning should have been consulted prior to the HC and OC hires
Irsay owes it to the fans to keep Manning because he used a 1% tax on food to build the Luke
If Manning signs elsewhere and plays against the Colts who should we root for
Wow!!!
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 29, 2012 3:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions
its 2%in teh ciyt, 1% in surroundign counties who get NOTHING in return
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
F*ck your tax Deeznuts
2% on food…that’s like 30 cents on a meal at TGI Fridays
I live in Seattle, we used taxes to build quest field. I grew up in Columbus OH…a second rate town like Indy where they used an even higher tax to build an arena to get hockey
Bitching about a few dollars makes you look stupid and your city look lower tier. Most cities pay a tax to build a stadium.
Indianapolis isn’t a great city like Chicago or NY Houston LA or Miami. Its a nice mid sized midwestern town. You should be glad to have a football team and be on the grand stage…but you wanna gripe about a small tax on food as some injustice…
If you want major league sports you pay. Seattle would not pass a levy to build a new home for the Sonics so guess what…they left and are in a smaller town that would pay. Now they are the best team in the NBA and we got nothing…and Seattle is a great city and the largest within a 700 mile radius…
Indy ain’t special! You should thank Mr Irsay for staying because he would make a lot more cash in LA
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 29, 2012 3:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Indy aint special!
That’s a matter of opinion. It’s special to me. I’m probably not alone in that viewpoint.
I'm not slamming Indy
Its just not an elite market…
I am from Columbus OH which is very similar to Indy…I have spent a lot of time in Indy and they put on a fabulous event!
But it’s not a market the NFL needs
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 29, 2012 3:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
fyi
indianapolis is the 12th most populated city.
indiana is the 15th most populated state.
not to mention that louisville is about an hour south. its a good market
Louisville ain't nothin...
Indy is 30th in metro area…Similar sized metro areas are San Antonio Portland Columbus Cincinnati Sacramento Virginia Beach Providence and Kansas City…which are all mid sized great places to raise a family but not all of those places have football team
Some cities annex their suburbs which makes the city limit population large…Metropolitan area is the true judgement of a market
Louisville is much lower near 50th. Which is why they have no professional sports
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 30, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
So what
if the decision has been made weeks ago! Is that a bad thing? Manning is not healthy and not worth the 28mil. If you want to use the argument of paying for all he’s done for the franchise, well, Mr. Irsay was kind enough last year to do that. Manning had zero problems taking 20 plus millions to play ZERO downs, nor do I see him running to give any of it back.
Manning is owed nothing, in my opinion. If anything, he should owe the Colts. He came out whining about all the changes. Come on folks, he is 36 coming off of 3 surgeries. Time to move on. Let it go. These are exciting times and we are worried about massaging Peyton’s ego. Changes needed to be made. Thank God we had an owner with the big ones to do it. If Manning ends up playing another 2-3 yrs, good on him. Change needed to be made now so the Colts are set for the next 10-15 years and not just the next two. Besides, even with the great Peyton Manning, the Colts have only won ONE superbowl while he was at the helm. Great regular season QB, not so much when it really matters. Again, just MY opinion, with some proof in the books.
Time to move on is now folks, whether you like it or not!!!! Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No its no but at least be honest about it
I don’t care if he wants to move on from Manning its understandable and he’s within his rights. However be direct to Manning about it. If you want to let him go fine let him go.
Irsay says one thing and does another here.
wrong
not yet he hasnt. and you have no idea what he has or hasnt told manning. you dont know if he actually has decided to cut manning.
you are bitching to irsay when you have zero facts
And yet you don’t either but actions speak louder than words
The new GM and coach have yet to talk to Manning?
All the guys who were there during the Manning era are shown the door(and they needed to be)
He plans to draft a QB in this year’s draft
All the signs point to bye bye Peyton and that’s fine but really don’t insult our intelligence by saying otherwise.
That’s what I don’t like about this. I think this team needs to move onto Luck but it could have been handled better if he you know acted like an adult instead of a Twittering fool
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