Jim Irsay Denies Report Of Impending Peyton Manning Release UPDATE Peter King: No Decision Has Been Made
by Stew Blake on Jan 29, 2012 7:00 AM EST
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The emotional roller coaster in Indy just keeps on trucking...
I know you're tired of it. Believe me, I'm TIRED of it. But regardless of our feelings, this monumental moment for our beloved franchise must be covered.
At approximately 1 am EST Sunday, Irsay took to his Twitter account to dispel Jason La Canfora's exclusive report.
No he hasn't been released nor was a decision reached weeks ago
— Jim Irsay(@JimIrsay) January 29, 2012
If we're to take Irsay's words at face value (decide that for yourself), a decision hasn't been made (at least not "weeks ago"). I do find it a little odd that Irsay didn't emphatically deny the report, as he famously did with Sodapop Curtis' or the coaching snuff scoop from Adam Schefter.
When La Canfora's report came out on Saturday, I'll be the first to say that it was surprising. I wasn't surprised by the possible departure of Manning, but by the report itself. If Manning's future was decided weeks ago, as suggested by La Canfora's sources, then why did Mr. Irsay tell us the following in late December [emphasis mine]:
"I paid him $26 million this season and he didn't play and I knew it was an iffy situation. If he's healthy and he can play, he'll be back here."
Today is the 29th of January and weeks ago would have meant earlier this month -- Ryan Grigson signed on the 11th -- or even earlier. That said, you'd think that there would still be some valuable time for Manning and Irsay to take advantage of before making a decision.
But if La Canfora's report is indeed accurate, it could be possible that the Manning verdict was health-related. Maybe Irsay knows that Manning will not be healthy enough for him to be comfortable by the deadline and the decision made itself.
Or maybe Irsay simply changed his mind and decided to forget about his words from late December.
Only time will tell, friends.
[UPDATE]: During a pre-Pro Bowl (don't ask why I'm watching the Pro Bowl) discussion segment on NBC, Peter King, who spoke with Irsay, stated that the decision regarding Manning's future has not been made.
King also mentioned that Gil Brandt thinks Manning will likely retire due to his slow rehabilitation. As for Tony Dungy, he still believes that if Manning is healthy, he'll be a Colt. Otherwise, he won't play at all.
Enjoy the rest of your Sunday, folks.
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What a BAD owner
I cant take the owner of my beloved Colts anymore. He needs to get of Twitter he makes a fool of himself daily and makes me think he is back on the drugs. Why can’t he just admit that Peyton will not be a Colt next year. His PR gaffs and constant denials make him look like an unstable fool. It would do us all alot of good to move on from the Peyton era.
by BLEED_BLUE on Jan 29, 2012 9:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
wrong
1) he doesnt embarrass himself on twitter at all. you may not like it and thats fine. dont read it. there are a lot of fans that like that jim irsay tweets
2) how does he look like an unstable fool?
by omahacolt on Jan 29, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
1) to each their own I rather he not be on Twitter at all. I think Irsay is a tool personaly however I don’t fault him for letting Manning go we all know he will just be honest about it I mean really.
You let Rob Lowe Tweet Manning is retiring (and he might) but that’s really a slap in the face to someone to out their retirement.
Its Manning’s decision when he should announce retirement not Jimbo’s.
Other than that I have no issue with the moves he has made. Changes needed to be done.
rob lowe?
irsay let lowe do that? that didnt happen
Yeah that’s it because you know Rob Lowe would just suddenly say that out of thin air?
Its obvious Irsay wants Manning to retire.
And Manning may very well retire but it should come from him not from Irsay’s tweaking.
I get you despise Manning and that’s your right of course but really I don’t get how anyone can find Irsay respectable here.
I just can’t imagine Kraft or Rooney acting this way and I loathe both their teams.
get over it man
irsay isnt doing anything to manning. irsay isnt telling lowe to tweet mannings retirement
Sure so how exactly does Rob Lowe know he’s retiring?
We know Manning wouldn’t tell him such a thing?
He’s friends with Irsay connect the dots but clearly I’ll leave you to your own delusions.
maybe. just maybe
rob lowe is full of shit and someone gave him wrong information
As ridiculous as he sound from time to time...
I rather he keep tweeting and dispelling rumors. You can always ignore him if you like; that said, this tweet in particular doesn’t appear to deny or confirm anything.
Still and always, the biggest Douche in the Universe
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but
he our big douche!
"Cat in the wall, eh? Ok, now you're talking my language. I know this game."
-Charlie
by Addai Another Aday on Jan 30, 2012 2:45 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, however my personal two cents...
releasing #18 = lost ticket sales, lost TV revenue, and thus… lost concession sales, lost parking revenue. I get it, Luck might be the next coming of Christ…. I get it. But I also get that there are a lot of butts in the seats that watch #18 do what he does.
Did this year suck? Yep. Was it all because Manning was out? Yep. So that tells you what an AMAZING weapon he is. Do you sell your nuclear bomb for an unproven laser beam that can shoot from the moon?
I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that Stanford only played a couple -NFL-talent producing teams. They beat one – and mostly due to the running game, not Luck. I would rather let the kid learn the new system under the greatest QB of all time. There are plenty of other areas that need attention. Fix those first. Why screw with the only weapon that’s worth a shit?
Lets go do what we do.
manning is done
so drafting luck only makes sense.
more genius responses
from the Biggest Douche in the universe
Go Blue!
Revenue - Expenses = Profit
by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Because
The “only weapon that’s worth a shit” isn’t working anymore. Manning still isn’t healthy. if he was, he’d be out there showing off that laser rocket arm (and trying to force the Colts to pick up the contract) instead of rehabbing at the team facility every day.
It’s time to accept reality: Manning isn’t healthy, nor is he likely to be by March 8 (a deadline chosen by Manning and his agent). If that’s the case, you CAN’T pick up the option. You HAVE to draft Luck.
by Chris S. on Jan 29, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
all this “future” crap, new era,and pro manning vs pro luck fan divide is cliche and stupid as hell. so what if fans voice they want manning to stay? you really think irsay reads this blog and bases his million dollar judgements on it? you think he is not ALSO fighting his feelings about this? fans who suck on luck and want to worship at the alter of andrew will just as fast turn on irsay if luck busts so lets not say what is reality. you think working at normal jobs or playing fantasy football makes any of us CEO material of a franchise? you have no better ideal than the same fans you trash. let them have their b**** fest since trust me you will not get another manning…. ever and irsay knows that. he not only saved your colts from moving out here to LA but got you a stadium and made naptown matter. if not for peyton indiana be known only for basketball and a pass through state.
fans like you think you just plug in a HYPED college QB and the train keeps going when we’ve seen the hyped QB before and like titanic we know how this will end. history is more on my side that luck will not pan out as #1 rather than him doing so. i trusted experts before and they gave me leaf, couch, dilfer, sanchez, carr, and several other picks they just knew would be franchise callers. even last year saying newton would be the biggest bust… yeah. i’m a colts fans since 84 so i will cheer and support luck but really… you don’t see this train wreck coming? IMHO sad but true all this “once in a lifetime” crap ON TOP OF following Manning will fold this kid under intense pressure. then we’ll get some QB in here much like brady lower in a draft who will perform better and luck will be another nfl trivia question and rated as the biggest draft bust surpassing leaf. but what do any of us know… now pass me the tequila.
by BigMan74 on Jan 29, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Calm down, BigMan
I didn’t trash anybody, and I don’t “worship at the altar of Luck.” All I did was try to make a few rational points:
- Manning isn’t healthy. Manning may never play again, for all we know, let alone play to his old standard of excellence.
- The Colts have to make a decision by March 8 on whether or not to commit to Manning. If he isn’t 100 percent by then, the CAN’T pick up the contract option. That contract means that Manning would have to play at least three more years, or the team would be blown up by his salary cap hit (for release/early retirement).
- If Manning isn’t here, you need a new starting QB. Given that you don’t have one on the roster, you have to draft one. If you’re going to draft one, you might as well draft the best one available.
Do I think Luck will be better than Manning? I have no idea, man. I don’t expect him to be. But he’s young, healthy and has a lot of potential. Conversely, Manning has been amazing, but is also 36 and injured. Even if he bounces back from this injury (which he hasn’t yet), he’s near the end of the line on his career. Luck may never be as good as Manning, but he could be something that Manning can’t — a quality starting QB for the next decade or more.
And “don’t I see the train wreck coming?” No, I don’t. It’s entirely possible that this whole “new era” of the Colts could flame out, but it’s also not a given. And I find it interesting that you spend most of the first half of your post pointing out that none of us are “CEO material” and that we really don’t have any idea how the situation will pan out — only to see you spend the second half of the post proudly proclaiming that you know that Luck will suck, this whole thing will be a disaster, and that Luck will be a bigger bust than Leaf.
News flash: I don’t know how this all plays out, and neither do you. All we can do is sit back and watch.
by Chris S. on Jan 29, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that was pretty accurate
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
weird denial
anyone notice he says “hasn’t been released”? He didn’t say he won’t be released shortly. Also, my guess is that the source is a GM candidate who had discussions with Grigson and Irsay about this…..or one of the polians.
Irsay the Hypocrite
Irsay has definitely been a “politician” over the past weeks! He’s going on twitter, doing interviews with ESPN, responding to comments. That’s kind of what’s pissing me off with this whole issue.
He has the nerve to call out Manning about being a “politician”, he’s doing the same EXACT thing. I like Irsay don’t get me wrong, but come on man.
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jan 29, 2012 10:33 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
its different
irsay is the owner of the business. manning is an employee. manning was out of line talking to the media and irsay put him in his place. just like a good boss should do. irsay put a stop to it and got with manning and resolved the issue.
all fault goes to manning
Manning is different
Manning is/was Irsay’s business and not just an employee. He brought the “horseshoe” to what it is in Indy. So to say Manning can’t play the game within the game is hypocritical when Irsay is doing the same thing.
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jan 29, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
wrong
manning is just an employee. its a fact. fans hold him up like an equal to irsay. he is not.
It's not black and white...especially the business of the NFL
Manning deserves to be held to a higher standard. He’s Irsay’s top “employee”….litterally face of the franchise, face of Indy, and face of the NFL. It’s a business for the Owners as well as the players. So to say Irsay’s comments were not hypocritical is wrong. Irsay want’s all this to be kept in house? He’s not even abiding to that.
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jan 29, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So players have to right to talk to the media?
Don’t be ridiculous. The NFL doesn’t prohibit it and as far as we know we’re in America. Worst yet, to hear it from Irsay who’s been outdoing Jerry Jones in self-promotion by miles its the ultimate hypocrisy.
by soforizo on Jan 29, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There's a difference
in First Amendment rights as pertaining to working for a private company. You can say what you want, but if your employer doesn’t like it, they can fire you. Just ask Hank Williams III.
"Cat in the wall, eh? Ok, now you're talking my language. I know this game."
-Charlie
by Addai Another Aday on Jan 29, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
If Manning was never a Colt...
The Colts would be in L.A.
And the Supper Bowl would be in Miami.
wtf are you talking about
irsay is mannings b*tch. without manning irsay would be in LA as the other weird owner (sterling being the other) except irsay would be on herb, tweets, and lost motivation to come to work so he hires samuel jackson to get those MF players to play some MF defense and a MF win! (in my angry jackson voice) manning is the boss and has been for years don’t get it twisted. manning will go somewhere else and if healthy will play us and kick the s*** out of us for another 3 years while we learn luck is a game manager and fans remember the good ol days of passes going over 10 yard passes and getting to at least a playoff game.
wow
foolish post. one of the worst i have seen lately
by omahacolt on Jan 29, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
heard about a troll named you, a few of us laugh at your responses since you def have short man complex. your the guy who is the resident fake tough guy troll here but me guess your all of 14 and if your not 14 i pity your parents of the old trailer park home you reside. i would love to be local and step in a starbucks and see your pasty a** trying to make sense of your logic while sipping on hot cocoa and smack you on the back of the head.
i’ve seen your moronic comments all through this b*** and you make as much sense as hellen keller. you have no logical arguments whatsoever. your stupid as f***, make no sense, all your debates are simple like your life, and just say stuff to get a rise.. like trolls do. but unlike your family who has to talk to your a** not going to happen again so glad you introduced yourself but in the future I will just laugh at your expense. f**** kids….
by BigMan74 on Jan 29, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And omaha is the troll?
Believe in Blue.
Marshall Manning, Colts QB, 2032-
by stonewall12345678 on Jan 29, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nothing Says Real Man
Like cursing at strangers on a keyboard
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 29, 2012 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
helen keller...
actually made a lot of sense. She has numerous books published. But I suppose your ad hominem attacks on a football blog comments section is something to brag about.
did you just really use "hominem"?
how long you’ve been waiting to pull that and use that in a conversation? my rants are at least entertaining pro or con… you sound like the guy who gets bent on green issues and drives a prius while preaching about the 1%.
i’m laughing you for getting “PC” on me. hilarious… it be ok i’m not mad at ya. now go occupy a library and find new words to impress us simple sports folk. haha
Why are you riding Irsays dick so hard? Are you trying to get Abbeys job?
This franchise was nothing till Polian drafted Peyton, we owe all the sucess we have had over the years to him.
NOT Irsay
Irsay has never had a “real” job his entire life. This real life Silver Spoon lives in la-la land, especially since he seems to be forgetting how bad this team was b4 Polian took over, when he was makeing all the calls…like now
The fact you jock Irsay so hard, yet spit in Mannings face, is pure blasphemy
Most people here are fine with the fact that if Peyton isnt ready by March 8th, we realizemust move on…But instead of letting us mourn in our own ways, your being a total asshole
Go Blue!
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Media is....
…on a fishing expedition. Fans are on the edge and it seems like nobody cares about the superbowl.
I was out running by the canal/white-river on Friday and it seems that NYG fans have invaded our beloved city. Shared a few choice thoughts about NE that had them hootin’ and hollering for a mile. I did not spot a single Pats fan yet. Looks like they are down in a bunker somewhere. :)
1am
I think Irsay spit out the truth there…..and at 1am in the morning I am not surprised his response was less than that….if the man says it is not true then I sure choose to believe Irsay over any La Confora.
I have an idea - how about an article about the new coaching staff?
This Manning and Irsay back and fourth is a waste of time until an actual decision is made.
Espn is reporting that the Steelers linebackers coach is the colts new d coordinator. Id love an update on that please
by TheWeasley on Jan 29, 2012 10:51 AM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
Irsay's 'New Colts Era' is the right thing to do.
I went from feeling complete indifference toward Irsay to now having some respect for the man. The tough difficult decision is to move on from Manning. Asside from a media assisted war of words with Manning (which Manning initiated), Irsay has been shrewd in his decisions.
The colts unique opportunity to transform the franchise for the next 10-15 years is now.
And why do some of you care what he does on his twitter account? What the hell does it matter? Because he’s rich and owns a team he should be stiff, different than you. Should he be an elitist, an asshole who thinks twitter is beneath him?
by mlc2656 on Jan 29, 2012 10:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Besides, his response to the Fisher thing was classic...
I didn’t go on any ‘fishing’ expedition.
He seems like a decent guy. I don’t see why so many are quick to bash someone they don’t know based on silly things like posting lyrics on a twitter account.
by mlc2656 on Jan 29, 2012 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Peyton Place
When I was a kid Peyton Place 1964-1969 seemed liked it ran forever. One day it ended and some other show is in its time slot. Like a normal kid, I heard the music of that show come on, I ran for the door. I didn’t want to be around the house.
When the Colts take the field in 2012-13 season, it marks the beginning of a new era. I want to watch them at home and in Houston. That Houston game for the last three years, I believe two were season openers for the Texans, were electric. One team seemed to have wanted to win. I have one suggestion for the Colts in the new season. We cannot wait on superman. The new era should begin with this motto: “win the game in front of you.” Anything else sounds like Bill Polian (next man up, draft picks and position, statistics, woes of the offensive and defensive sides of the ball).
How do you win right now? I will let Owner Jim Irsay, GM Grigson, and Coach Pagano work that out.
By the way, Peyton Manning has reached legendary status. How can you tell? We keep writing about him. Peyton Place, 1998-2011. 2012-2013 Colts team will be better than ever. I believe it.
by Leroystayclean on Jan 29, 2012 11:28 AM EST reply actions
I don't make a habit of this
But I’m willing to go out on the limb to say this. From the outside looking in, I sincerely wish Peyton the best: whatever the “best” is for him.
Rarely does a player come along that has done as much for the team and the game as Peyton has. Stellar player, awesome teammate and a credit to his position and the game. I for one sincerely hope he retires before he ever agrees to put on the uniform of another team. It would be one of the sad days in NFL history for #18 to not be a Colt.
I have no vested interest in the Colts at all (although I do offer my sympathies to your fanbase now that you can deal with the likes of Bruce Arians….again.) but I do have an interest in the game and Peyton Manning has been nothing short of a credit since he came into the league.
Rob Lowe is a buffoon and someone who should stay far away from any social media outlets. Whatever happens though, this Steeler fan truly appreciates everything “Peyton”.
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."
by 1BlkGldFan on Jan 29, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Ya know what's kind of unbelievable?
Eli Manning is playing in the super bowl in one week for a chance to destroy Tom Brady and company for the second time. But, the Manning we’re hearing about 24/7 is Peyton. Talk about stealing thunder. I’m sure it was unintentional, but that’s exactly what’s happening.
New D Coordinator
reports are its Kevin Butler, LB coach from the Steelers
by wicker on Jan 29, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I understand the anger and will miss 18 but please take five minutes and look at the cap situation on coltsinsider!
I am not going to type all the numbers but…Basically if they give Manning the money and he can’t play he will end up counting an astronomical number against the cap (more than 1/3) in 2012 and the Colts will not be able to keep or resign anyone at all…
The cap ramifications would also be terrible the following year as well.
So it comes down to giving an unhealthy Manning the $$$ and risking having to play with virtually no money to sign players which means they would have to cut or not re-sign any one with talent…
The Colts would literally be fielding a JB team which would be less talented than last ears 2-14 abortion…
I implore all of you that are calling Irsay a bad owner and fans that understand this disloyal to look at the cap situation then you can make an honest realization.
If you say we want 18 at the risk of blowing up the franchise for 5-7 years then that’s fine but if you see the cap situation it’s easy to understand why he has to get cut
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 29, 2012 12:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They won't give Manning the money if he can't play
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 29, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
What Irsay ACTUALLY said...
“No he hasn’t been released nor was a decision reached weeks ago….. but we’re 99.99% sure he’s outta here!”
In related news, I would LOVE to play poker with Mr. IR$AY.
by taipei_coltsfan on Jan 29, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions
You couldnt afford the buy-in
Go Blue!
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by dezznutz1001 on Jan 29, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
step away slowly from the blasphemy.
by BigMan74 on Jan 29, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
then dive back in head first
maybe peyton will ascend into heaven instead of retire
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Jan 30, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Peyton's in Denver?
"Cat in the wall, eh? Ok, now you're talking my language. I know this game."
-Charlie
by Addai Another Aday on Jan 29, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
shit. you beat me to it
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Jan 30, 2012 2:16 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Heh
"Cat in the wall, eh? Ok, now you're talking my language. I know this game."
-Charlie
by Addai Another Aday on Jan 30, 2012 2:48 AM EST up reply actions
the fact of the fact
there is no team other then indy that can offer peyton enough protection and safety for the time he needs to recover. peyton having this much damage and playing football here or anywere else is kind of like driving a corvette with missing lug nuts over 100mph. peyton is a indiana icon and i cant see anyone taking that away from the fans other then to steal the lime light. think abt having a extra qb that did nothing but sit on the sideline, think abt how many players stay on ir. whatever
by BillandTara Maxey on Jan 29, 2012 8:28 PM EST reply actions
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