Report: Peyton Manning Still Isn't Healthy, Expected To Retire
by Brad Wells on Jan 30, 2012 10:14 AM EST
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Yes, yes, yes... another report about Peyton Manning and his status with the Colts. Get used to them because more will surface. Peyton Manning's health and future in the NFL are the story this week, not some little game that is going to get played Sunday. Since everyone and their mother's mother has descended upon Indianapolis, as it is the site for Super Bowl XLVI, news about Manning will continue to percolate until... well, until we hear something definitive from either Manning himself or Colts owner Jim Irsay.
The first report last night came via Peter King of SI. He was working the pre-game show for the 2012 Pro Bowl, and he said that, according to Manning family friend Gil Brandt, Peyton still isn't healthy five months after spinal fusion surgery and it is doubtful he will ever play again.
Not long after, Amy Lawrence of ESPN tweeted this:
@ClaytonESPN just told me Peyton Manning is likely headed for retirement, not just parting ways w/Colts. Stunning. I'm in total denial.
— Amy Lawrence (@AmyLawrenceESPN) January 30, 2012
So, this is now three pretty credible sources (King, Brandt, Clayton) all saying Peyton will hang'm up. As always, we will continue to monitor, update, and re-update this story. Like you, we are sick of it all too, but just because we're sick of it doesn't mean it isn't news.
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I posted this over at Coltpower, thought I share my insight to why.
I am a radiologist and have several friends who are neurosurgeons. They perform the surgery that Peyton had routinely. They tell me that it takes at least one year to recover from this kind of surgery. The fact that he is having muscle weakness in his throwing arm (referred to as radiculopathy) is also a poor prognosis. That is why Polian was correct in stating that the doctors don’t know when the nerve will regenerate. The physicians I know are doing these procedures on everyday people like you and me, not on high performance athletes. Being able to play with his twins, drive a car, get dressed, swing a golf club, is going to be no big deal. Trying to thread a pass to a receiver 30 yards down field with a defensive end trying to pull you down is another story. Peyton has already been out of football for one year and likely two years if he has a prolonged recovery. My guess is that he is finished.
This is in response to another poster in regard to other players coming back from this type of surgery
Not to get into too many technical details, but the persistent muscle weakness is the problem. Most players who have had the fusion surgery do not have persistent weakness following surgery (especially since this is his throwing arm). Most of the neurosurgeons that I know thought that his second surgery (the one in May) should have been a fusion surgery. I am sure Peyton was given the options and elected to just have the herniated disk removed which meant that he would be able to play during the 2011 season. Hindsight is 20-20, but we may be talking about Peyton fully recovering if he would have had the disk removed and neck fused back in May to relieve pressure on the nerve sooner. Again, I am just guessing as I do not know all the details.
by Radcolt on Jan 30, 2012 10:20 AM EST reply actions 16 recs
This is fantastic
Thank you so much for sharing your insight…it appears that it will take a miracle for the Colts to not cut Peyton or for him not to retire…what a huge blow to the Colt’s fan base and the NFL in general…this year just wasn’t the same.
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litte bit more info....
i know the head of St. Vincent’s ER department, who is friends with the surgeon who did the most recent surgery. Apparently, the surgeon who did the first procedure screwed up and went into the wrong side of the neck, which is why another surgery had to be done.
by coltsgolfbeer on Jan 30, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
I believe it
I’ve heard this several times over the last few months
Believe in Blue.
Marshall Manning, Colts QB, 2032-
by stonewall12345678 on Jan 30, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, right...
I don’t think the Colts would have come out and said the surgery was successful had this been the case.
just what i heard
i haven’t thought about it or inquired about it too much because frankly the result is the same regardless what happened
by coltsgolfbeer on Jan 30, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
i really really doubt he has any interest in suing
by coltsgolfbeer on Jan 30, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I would think that he would want some compensation for his potential earnings being ruined because of this.
Yeah, he really needs compensation
He has enough money. I highly doubt he would sue.
by Coltsfan1345 on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I seriously doubt all this
I am sure Manning saw a top notch surgeon who consulted with a team of other top notch surgeons before the surgery. Procedures at this level do not happen in the same manner that the local mechanic brings your car in and starts ripping out pieces, welding here and there and beating around with a hammer. I am sure this was approached in a very professional manner by several individuals, not just one surgeon. Blaming the surgeon is lame as is spreading gossip from a source several removed from THE source. Ever play the telephone game in kindergarten? I am by no means an apologist for the medical industry but christ the doctors who worked on Manning are far from bumbling idiots who cut on the wrong line.
by ferm on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Chinese Whispers
that what it is, first person said I suspect Manning will retire and the sports analyst 10 whispers down the track hears Manning will retire from a reliable source..
by kbreboot on Jan 30, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
as a doctor
in 2011 find that hard to believe
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Jan 30, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Dubious...
I seriously doubt that this can happen in 2011, especially to a super-star athlete.
Retire and Come Back
He can retire, then come back if/when healthy. Brett Favre anyone?
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Possible, sure - but like Favre, if this happened, he wouldn't be returning to his home team.
I think if there’s any shred of hope that he can rehab to a point of being able to play again, Manning will do such a thing. But it’s anyone’s guess when that day will come, and we (really Irsay and the Colts) simply don’t have the luxury of waiting.
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by BoilerUp1982 on Jan 30, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
He’s done with the Colts, but my point was, he could come back with another team after retirement.
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by coldy4goldy on Jan 30, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
It sucks.
Peyton is my hero. What an unbelievable force who has done everything the right way and has done so much for this city, charity wise, football wise, stadium wise. However, retirement is the right decision. Thank god we are getting Andrew Luck….how lucky are we to be able to immediately draft a very special QB instead of having to wait for years to find his replacement?
by coltsgolfbeer on Jan 30, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Open Quarterbacks Coach
Can anyone think of a better Quarterbacks Coach to have than #18? Just because he may never play, doesn’t mean he can’t mentor Andrew Luck as a coach right? I would love to keep him in the Colts organization for life. Better question, if he retires prior to the season, how long until he is in the Ring of Honor at the Luke?
This is all speculation, but I hope he can still play, but he has to think about life after football.
by Hamboner13 on Jan 30, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There should be no reason
he is not inducted into the Ring of Honor at the first home game of 2012
88, 32, 7, 21, 17, 31
Agreed.....
I can live with a “new era” if Peyton retires. A lot of people talk about him playing for another team, but seem to forget he would have to pass a physical. He won’t retire if he can pass a physical to play for the Colts. If he can’t pass a physical here, he can’t pass one anywhere else. I hate that he probably won’t play ever again, and especially that he won’t play for the Colts. I hope Mr. Irsay ofeers to him – when feels ready – to come back to the Colts to take a coaching position. QB coach and eventually OC is in his future if he wants it. He loves football too, too much not to come back to it in some position or another. Lord knows he can pick anything he wants. Commentator (NFL Network, not ESPN PLEASE!), any offensive coaching position (I bet he could even coach the offensive line!), front office maybe (director of player personnel to start, maybe even GM – his level of intelligence and ability to remember almost everything would serve him well their) or maybe even become part owner with Irsay to insure a proper direction when Irsay decides to retire himself. All speculative as anything else we’re hearing, but all just as possible. One thing is for sure -I only wish the best for Peyton and his family and that whatever he decides and whatever direction he decides to go after that decision, I hope he is healthy, happy and can continue enjoying football in some form for the rest of his life. Peyton, if you have to go, we (all the fans, and all of us COLTS FANS) will miss you dearly….we all wish you the BEST in all that you do!
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by thefrozz on Jan 30, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You forgot to add Rob Lowe to your list of credible sources
I am a veteran of the Internet - I will suffer fools gladly. And then mock them. And then post cat pictures.
BUT it's looking more and more like Rob Lowe was right
So he can be a credible source.
I posted on the initial thread regarding Lowe's story that his tweet is more credible than any of those who refuted it i.e. Condon, Mort and Archie
simply because of Agendas and agendas alone. It would be in the best interest of those connected to Manning to dispel rumors and control that information, so they acted in accordance with that protocol. Lowe has absolutely zero agenda on the Colts – why would he make that up?
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by BoilerUp1982 on Jan 30, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
it's all good - my OP was a bit ambiguous in tone.
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by BoilerUp1982 on Jan 30, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
He didn’t Irsay told him to tweet it though regardless Lowe is a d-bag for letting it out.
If Manning retires(which is likely) it should come from him.
At least Archie etc respect Manning enough to do that.
Which is more than I can say for Lowe who claims to be a fan of his.
I'm not going to defend or define Rob Lowe's character on the basis of a tweet.
My opinion is that he had no idea it would blow up the way it did, and was simply shocked when he heard the news that he had to do something with the information.
I’d call him naive before calling him a d-bag. But call him what you want – just don’t call him a liar. Save that for Mort, Condon and Archie.
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by BoilerUp1982 on Jan 30, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Sure he didn’t anyone who uses Twitter accepts the consequences of how info gets out he’s in the business. He knows how this works if he doesn’t he’s an idiot.
Much like his friend.
And I never said he was a liar I think he’s a d-bag because if this is true it should come from Manning its his career his decision to announce.
Sorry - I didn't mean to sound like you called him a liar
Twitter is so awesome and simultaneously danger because of this exact reason. Ashton Kutcher had to hand over control of his twitter account because he tweeted out in support of JoePa, and started getting negative PR because of it. Celebs and athletes alike, even politicians, have deleted and/or apologized for tweets that have garnered more attention that was anticipated. Are all these people idiots? Well, not all of them – but the point is, Twitter is a perfect 1:1 medium for expressing – instantaneously – what is on your mind, and sometimes people say dumb, un-thought-through, and irresponsible things (rashard mendenhall, anyone?). Everyone makes mistakes – if they make a habit of doing it though, then that’s a different story.
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by BoilerUp1982 on Jan 30, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yes they’re all idiots
That’s what a publicist is for at least they save you from looking like an idiot (most of the time)
lol, fair enough
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by BoilerUp1982 on Jan 30, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
to be fair
i said manning was done playing football well before rob lowe.
and you are the only person that actually thinks rob lowe knows what he is talking about
Lowe didn't have an agenda?
Besides having millions, and millions of people seeing his Twitter page? Besides having his name mentioned of every single sports website? Sports channel?
I don’t know if Lowe will profit off of his Tweet, but he’s in the entertainment business – where attention rules all. He’s in the limelight. People are calling him. Asking him about Peyton. Etc. Etc.
If you think Lowe had no agenda, you need to re-think it.
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by kmbryant09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Plus he wouldn’t give up his source I mean if its true why not spill?
I mean if you’re going to put it out there you better stand by it.
Irsay probably got in touch with him immediately...
And said, “WTF are you doing?!?!?!? Shut your mouth!”
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I think that if Lowe had an agenda, he wouldn't have turtle-shelled as quickly as he did
If he wanted to stay in the forefront with the story, he wouldn’t have said simply “I trust my sources” and then mention nothing – absolutely nothing – about it past that first day.
Maybe he did – but I doubt it. I think he loves the Colts, heard shocking news about his favorite Colts player, and then shared that news. Why’s it have to be more complicated that that? Occam’s Razor definitely would apply to this situation.
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by BoilerUp1982 on Jan 30, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I will add though, Boiler
That I don’t believe Lowe simply made up the Tweet.
I think it’s very possible that he and Irsay had a few drinks, and Lowe asked about Manning’s future…Irsay may have given him a look, said something like, “he’s done”, or suggested that Luck will start immediately.
Does that mean Manning retires? Probably just that he’s done with the Colts, but possibly retired. Or he could have just made it up.
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by kmbryant09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I find that believable than all these reports its media throwing something that sticks.
It could end up true eventually but really doesn’t provide any journalistic integrity weird how the SB is in the backburner compared to this.
Yep
Which is why I believe Manning came out and did the interview a week ago. Early enough to update his status (leaving the Colts) without interfering with the SB – but the media ran with it, and so did Irsay.
I don’t think it was Manning’s intention to create this kind of a distraction, I think he was just letting the public know that 1. he’s still rehabbing, and 2. done with the Colts.
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Yeah I’ll wait till Manning confirms this I somehow doubt a family friend would talk to the press about Manning possibly retiring.
Is it possible? Yes
But he’s not going to do so now. After the SB perhaps.
Besides Clayton was the same guy who said Manning would start on opening day and well we all know he was wrong about that.
im not buying this
there have been too many posts on this blog that have been retracted 2-3 hours later, i will wait until irsay/manning/the colts confirm this
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by Keysta101 on Jan 30, 2012 10:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I do buy this
because this is what I have thought all along. It’s the only possible scenario that accounts for the way Irsay and staff have been acting. If Manning’s nerves were approaching full regeneration, there would have been leaks. There has been a leak about everything EXCEPT him throwing the ball with full velocity.
Not really the only scenario I just think Irsay wants Manning gone so he doesn’t have to pay up and can start with a young new QB. He already wasted $26 million by having him sit on the sideline.
Besides if he’s retiring Irsay would’ve been far nicer in his reaction rather than calling Manning a politician etc.
Agree w/GrizzColt
Irsay does not want Peyton to get hurt or have Peyton put himself in a bad situation…Peyton wants to play, hell everyone wants him to play, but this is why it’s not black and white. This is NOT about Peyton being paid $50 million and not play a down, this is about his health. The money is secondary and to say Irsay is acting irrationally is short sighted. If Irsay doesn’t want to ‘pay up’ he could always just cut Peyton, but that does not apply to this situation.
Wait till March 8th if he doesn’t retire Irsay will cut him and he’s within his rights to do so.
But really its up to Manning to announce retirement or it should be.
Irsay is not noble enough to care about Manning’s health he doesn’t want to pay that $28 million on something so risky and I don’t blame him but to say money isn’t the motivating factor here is laughable when they say it isn’t about the money.
It is about the money
FTA: Addai said that Manning could throw for 20 yards that could be BS but we’ve heard both things.
All I do know is that Manning’s days as a Colt are over.
Addai...
I think that report was ~a month ago…So hopefully Manning’s health has continued to improve.
I’ve also heard reports (I believe from Colts receivers, Collie? Clark? maybe Addai again?) that Manning was throwing the ball like any NFL QB does. That if you didn’t know he was injured, you wouldn’t have guessed it based on watching his throws.
Could be wishful thinking, but I’m guessing that Irsay’s IDEAL world includes Manning retiring, and Luck becoming the next Peyton. Irsay does the right thing in selecting Luck, but doesn’t have to deal with any backlash of letting Manning play for another team. Irsay is probably urging Manning to retire, but if healthy, that decision clearly belongs to Peyton.
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by kmbryant09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep wouldn’t surprise me if Irsay is leaking this to Clayton etc in the hopes Manning retires but in the end it will have the opposite effect because he feels embarrassed.
We get cutting Manning but Jimbo can’t control the outcome of what he does afterwards which is what he wants to do.
Or maybe ...
The report is true, and Manning truly isn’t healthy. Honestly, if you think Manning was close to 100 percent, that he wouldn’t find a way to get it out there? Hell, if the ol’ laser rocket arm was working properly, he’d probably try to play a flag football game w/ Super Bowl fans right in front of the Luke, just to pressure Irsay into picking up the contract.
Peyton isn’t healthy. If he isn’t healthy after this much time, he might never be.
What makes you think he wants to stay here?
Sure he says the right things publically but he also knows that they have the #1 draft pick and its a rebuilding project. When they got the #1 draft pick the decision was made for Irsay.
Why stay here for that when he can be released and go to any contender that’s out there?
Exactly...
My thoughts:
-Peyton is still rehabbing. He’s not 100% yet, but believes he will be healthy enough to play next season.
-Peyton would LOVE to stay in Indy and have another few years at a SB run in the stadium that he built.
-But he also realized this past season (if he didn’t already know), that the Colts aren’t very talented. He knows that he’s the ONLY reason why the Colts were ever SB contenders.
-He also realizes that the Colts are re-building, starting fresh with Andrew Luck. And Manning believes that Luck should play from the beginning.
-Both Manning and Irsay have so much respect for each other, and a very close working relationship. I’m guessing they’ve already decided that Peyton will not be a Colt next year. But both sides want to make it as painless as possible IF Peyton plays for another team. That’s why the team will wait to cut him, and will want to suggest that Peyton isn’t close to returning to football action, which makes the decision easier to swallow, and easier for the fans to accept.
Manning will be cut at some point over the next 2-6 weeks. He’ll spend another month or two rehabbing, hopefully to the point where he feels he can play competitive football for the next 3-4 years. Then he’ll become a FA, pick his team of choice (Miami & Arizona are my 2 favorites), and sign ~3 year/$30 million contract. Or, if his rehab doesn’t make him completely healthy, he’ll retire from the NFL.
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by kmbryant09 on Jan 30, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Do you have any idea if the Colts would get any compensation for Manning if he gets signed somewhere else?
I know we’d be compensated if he were simply leaving via free agency, but I don’t know if that applies to players who are simply cut. I don’t think we’d get any compensatory picks because of the fact he was cut/released, but I am not sure.
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by BoilerUp1982 on Jan 30, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I don't know ...
Why would he want to stay? I could think of a few reasons:
- Maybe because he’s been so vocal about his legacy, wanting to play for one team his entire career, and his deep roots in the community?
- Maybe because, as a creature of habit, he’d prefer to stay where he still has some personnel he’s familiar with (Collie, Clark, and likely Garcon)?
- If he has to work with a new offensive coordinator, meaybe he’d prefer to work with one that he already knows (Arians) and who’s system is partially based on the Tom Moore offense?
- And (most importantly) maybe because the contract he has with the Colts is a far better contract than he’ll get from anyone else if released (at least in terms of guaranteed money and length, if not in annual salary)?
Make no mistake — rebuilding or not, Peyton’s first preference would be to have that contract option picked up and have this organization commit wholly to him for the remainder of his career. But that’s not going to happen, and it’s pretty clear both Peyton and Irsay know it.
by Chris S. on Jan 30, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Sure he’d like to stay here if they traded Andrew Luck and used those picks for one last run.
But since they aren’t doing that well this isn’t the same team anymore.
And really the guy wants to play football regardless the only way he stops playing is if he cannot play at all. But not because of some misguided notion of Colts or bust.
He’s not that loyal he’d be stupid to do so considering how Irsay is eager to push him out. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s the one leaking this to King and Co.
And....
Continue to carry a talent-less team to 10-12 wins and another playoff loss?
At this point, money means very little to Manning.
And you want to argue he wants continuity? The Colts have a new GM, a new Head Coach, a new Offensive Coordinator, a new training staff, pretty much a new everything.
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by kmbryant09 on Jan 30, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's coming from a friend of the Mannings
Gil Brandt – according to Brad’s story at the top.
Yeah call me crazy but no friend of the Mannings would ever disclose this publically before Manning would.
I mean this is the same guy who kept his twins a secret.
by CF4L on Jan 30, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If he retires he need to wear the uniform one more time
1 drive in preseason at Lucas Oil (Just runs and 1 throw)..
He deserve the chance to retire in front of the fans
He can sign for 1 game
Like many others players, just to retire in your house and teammeates
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just wanted to run out of the tunnel in Denver one more time. Could see Peyton doing that. Would give people a reason to go to a pre-season game!
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i agree 100%
I would travel from Boston to Indy, just to watch the last time that Peyton dress the uniform..
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Reports are surfacing that Manning has actually learned how to throw the ball left-handed, explaining his lengthy “re-hab.” The nerve regeneration in his right arm developed far enough for Manning to regain his ability to hand the ball off and execute the play-action fake, but nothing further. As a lefty, defenses will struggle to adapt to the new looks Manning will throw at them. But they won’t be the only ones affected by the switch:
Anthony Castonzo, when asked about the situtation, says “I was drafted to protect the blindside of a Peyton Manning. It’s great that he’s coming back, but I’d be lying to say I’m a little disappointed.”
Jeff Saturday’s spirit is tempered as well, adding “If Manning’s hands under my butt are switched all of the sudden, I can’t guarantee that next season I won’t be guilty of a few extra false starts. You get used to the same feeling back there over and over – and a southpaw…Man, that’s just feels weird to think about.”
More news to follow…
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by BoilerUp1982 on Jan 30, 2012 11:38 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
Sounds like it is time for Manning to become a coach
No one knows this Offense better than Manning. He should be the OC.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 30, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions
I'M AT PEACE WITH THIS...(if it is in fact true)
Irsay needs to real him into the front office or groom him as a coach.
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by JohnHandburgers on Jan 30, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions
*reel
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by JohnHandburgers on Jan 30, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions
Can we change the title of this thread to.........
Shitty Monday just got shittyer.
I expected this from day one....
We frequently engage in the euphoria of hero worship which is fine from a sports perspective but Peyton Manning isn’t different than you or I as far as him being a human being…Yes he is a world class athlete but he is just a man!
We are all mortal and get older, we all are susceptible to serious injury and the results of surgical procedures…
Expecting him to get healthy all of a sudden when it’s been half a year and the initial prognosis had him being only missing a game or two is not realistic. It’s likely over…sad but true…
The NFL isn’t fair it’s a kill or be killed league…Aikman and Young are two great (not Peyton great) QBs that had to walk away because of injury…they were heroes in their towns also…
If this is true and Manning retires we will always remember his greatness but AlsoIrsay get behind the new regime and new QB…at least those of us that are long term Colts fans
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 30, 2012 1:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hey!!! Older brother says predicting future for Colts' Manning is futile
He said that http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d826720ef/article/older-brother-says-predicting-future-for-colts-manning-is-futile and I believe it.. Nobody knows if the nerves will regenerate or not.. but if they do, expect to watch Peyton in another uniform for a few years and maybe winning another ring.. Peyton watns to play so bad.. that if the nerves do regenerate he will be better than ever.. and one more thing If Peyton plays again I predict a 2013-14 movie about him, and if he comes and win the big one again, his comeback will be one of his greatest achivements and will cement his legacy beyond anything seen in the sport… He wants to play ,he will not retire unless there is no hope left for him to do so.. and no one can predict that so stop twisting words to make more drama.. what it is certain is that he will not be ready for match 8 and he will get release.. but nobody at this point knows if he will play again, not even him.. but he wants to, dont doubt it..
"If anything, we want to go out there and step it up. Of course it will be different (without Manning), but it’s one of those things that if it happens, everybody else has to step up. It’s next man up." - Pro Bowl safety Antoine Bethea
to sum it up:
“Peyton is going to do every single thing a human being can possibly do to get ready to play again,” said Cooper, whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " … Anyone predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there." Cooper reiterated that Peyton’s ability to return depends on the regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.
dont waste your breath people!!!!!!!! The guy wants to play
"If anything, we want to go out there and step it up. Of course it will be different (without Manning), but it’s one of those things that if it happens, everybody else has to step up. It’s next man up." - Pro Bowl safety Antoine Bethea
As if he hasn't been working hard to get back all along
And here we are, 8 months from the 2nd of 3 surgeries and he still isn’t any closer to playing…
the fusion surgery
must have been done earlier.. that’s the thing , he tried to come back for 2011 and got the surgery with the best return timetable.. but the fusion was what he really needed, now the nerves need to regenerate and it usually takes 1 year at 1mm per month or so.. it will be around may or june to know if he really needs to consider retirement, I know Irsay and the team can’t wait and less if no ones knows if the nerves will regenerate at all..
but peyton will keep rehabbing, and his nerves regenerate ..all this means he will not be a Colt.. but saying that he will retire at this point is not looking at the evidence..
"If anything, we want to go out there and step it up. Of course it will be different (without Manning), but it’s one of those things that if it happens, everybody else has to step up. It’s next man up." - Pro Bowl safety Antoine Bethea
by thebossuzzi on Jan 30, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
thank you for bringing some good thoughts to the thread
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by muncie_in_this on Jan 30, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
scenerio
manning retires becomes qb coach for a.luck making sb in 2 yrs, p.manning returns healthy and makes one last appearance in 2017 where he wins his last super bowl 35-10.
by BillandTara Maxey on Jan 30, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions
Three sources?
Is it appropriate to count Gil Brandt and Peter King as separate sources when Brandt was the one providing the info to King? Wouldn’t that be the same as naming yourself as another source for passing it along here?
And is it not possible that Clayton basically passed along through another ESPN twitterer (didn’t post it himself which is odd) the same thing that King and Brandt said?
Not saying it’s a bad report, just that it’s a little misleading to say three sources. Thanks for the info and I think most of us welcome the Peyton coverage.
by dabritt on Jan 30, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
That and I believe his brother is providing the most logical point in all of this he’s rehabbing and we really don’t know.
Even Dr. House can’t figure this one out.
by CF4L on Jan 30, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
in BBS' defense
he usually does link back to his own articles to prove points
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by muncie_in_this on Jan 30, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Sigh, Warm up the bus
its over
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Perhaps...
He retires before March 8 to avoid the clusterf*ck associated with Irsay having to cut him
Then he rehabs at home or at UT for the next several months and if he can come back comes out of retirement like Favre..
If he can’t come back he is retired and doesn’t have to deal with the embarasent of being cut or the media circus about who will he at for next
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 30, 2012 3:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Pretty sure he has an idea of if they are going to pay the option bonus or not....
He knows he wont get the money unless he is healthy. And (if) reports saying he isn’t healthy are correct I’m pretty sure We are coming near the deadline for an Irsay decision…
It’s not like he is going to suddenly be healthy March 4th and everyone lives happily ever after…I can only assume they would need to see him pass some tests etc. and show some sustained wellness…basically can he throw with velocity week in week out…or will he have serious recovery issues etc.
The injury isnt a black/white issue…it’s not as simple as him being well by the week of the option payment
by (206)NightRidah on Jan 30, 2012 4:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ring of Honor
Immediate induction agreed, right between Bill Brooks and Chris Hinton! I know it’s low, but any chance we can move some of the early ones to the ‘hallway of honor’?
I liked it better when you were bbs
by ColtsfaniSverige on Jan 30, 2012 4:17 PM EST reply actions
We had to have seen this coming
When he missed even 8 games, we thought it might be serious than we thought. Then after he missed the whole season, we all knew there was a possibility he would never play again. Now that’s looking like more and more of a reality. It’s been a hell of a ride.
I have the ugly gut feeling that
Peyton will play again and he will be good if not better, unlike old fart favre, peyton took this same 2-14 team to a 10-6 record playing hurt and with more injuries on the lineup, he won the MVP with tony ugoh and took this team to a superbowl with no OL at all.. if the nerves regenerate, lucky the team that gives him a chance.. I just hope for the best for him. and if he wont be a colt no more :( .. then I just hope he ends up winning another ring he deserved a better team polian.. glad you are gone!
"If anything, we want to go out there and step it up. Of course it will be different (without Manning), but it’s one of those things that if it happens, everybody else has to step up. It’s next man up." - Pro Bowl safety Antoine Bethea
Get off the Favre bashing
He was a Saint field goal away from taking his new team to the Super Bowl (and, as we found out, the Saints were pretty damn good that year). Favre played what was arguably his best season ever with the Vikings. Don’t ignore the facts just because you don’t like the guy.
I didnt like the soap opera involving favre im retired now im not!
and Im not liking reading comments and posts around the internet comparing Peyton situation with Favre’s .. not to hurt your feelings but he was an old fart and a sexting one too..
"If anything, we want to go out there and step it up. Of course it will be different (without Manning), but it’s one of those things that if it happens, everybody else has to step up. It’s next man up." - Pro Bowl safety Antoine Bethea
Too early
Have to most likely give him a year from the surgery to see if he can recover , March 8th he won’t be recovered
In other news....
NFLN reporting that Keith Butler is staying with the Steelers…so the DC search continues.
I would like them to interview Eric Mangini.
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