Report: Colts Will Use The No. 1 Overall Pick in 2012 NFL Draft On Andrew Luck

this should be interesting

Love Peyton but you can’t pass up on another possible decade of winning with Luck.

The PM is bionic man and will play for 5 years at an MVP level without aging. PM built the Luke. If PM leaves I won’t be a fan anymore. Indy owes PM the right to leave on his terms. PM will be a better QB than before because of the rest. PM will win 2-3 SBs with whover he goes to and Luck will be a bust.

I love Manning and he is the best I ever saw. I wish he had never been hurt and could give the Colts another Lombardi. But it’s over!

Luck is as good a prospect moving forward as you are going to find. Let the kid take his lumps and use PM’s cap space to add several starters…Draft well and by 2014 I would be shocked if the Colts are not a 10-11 win team

when there isn’t even a GM? Unless Irsay is going to pull a Jerry Jones.

But as a fan longer than most on this blog have been alive, I feel the same as I did when they traded Unitas. If I could write the script, they draft Luck. Manning plays a year with Luck #2. Manning wills the team into the SB, and gets another trophy. Manning retires after the game and announces he will take over as QB coach and OC. The Colts win the division for the next 10 years, and ………..aw fuck it, it’ll never happen unless I am asleep. Might as well dream of Caldwell doing the funky chicken on the 50 yard line. Gotta leave and go to Bummer Town now.

K here me out. If Manning is healthy you trade the pick. If it’s true you could get 3-4 1’s for Luck and possibly a couple 2’s why would you not trade the pick.

If we are in “rebuilding mode” why the F would you keep 1 pick and start the rebuilding process. Wouldn’t it make sense to take the boatload of picks and start the rebuilding process. You would be gauranteed 2 1’s per year for the ext 3-4 years at least. I know Luck is suppossed to be the cats ass and all but really. Lets think this through. If Peyton is healthy you keep him plain and simple. Sign a half ass backup qb for a few years and lets get a couple f’in rings.

Rebuilding over the next few years WITH PEYTON and in 3-4 years or sooner you could package your 2 1’s in a certain year and move up to get another qb of the future. Look you don’t need a future Peyton as a qb. No offense to Peyton but he’s the GOAT and only won one ring because….they cost to much money !!!!!!!!

TRADE THE PICK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if 18 is healthy. They would be stupid to release him. And if Luck tries a powerplay move….F him. I don’t see any rings on his finger or any pass attempts for that matter. He’s never played a f’in game !!!!!!!!

I have heard Irsay himself say a few times that if Peyton Manning plays next year it will be with the Colts. With new rookie salary scale, it is possible to have both Manning and Luck on the Colts roster next season. Granted the cap hit would make it impossible to field a team of great players at other positions. I think it is more likely Manning retires and joins the Colts front office than they end up releasing him. Just my gut feeling.

Like anyone is going to really take Irsay at face value here. Manning is gone one way or another retirement or free agency. I’m sure Irsay will want him to retire but if Manning can play he will just not here.

Its time to rebuild sorry to say.

Irsay has already said in so many words he was drafting Luck…However, Luck will be a colt next season but he will not be starting as long as peyton is healthy he will be a colt and Luck will have the opportunity to learn from one of the greatest like it or not. Irsay will keep Manning a COlt for as long as Manning is Manning

I don’t understand how you call people trolls and stuff for asking you to explain yourself. When you speak to people like their stupid like " what more do I need to explain" then all you have to do is explain it,
Just because Irsay said he is rebuilding where do you come off saying they can’t co-exist. You may think that but Irsay has never once mentioned 18 is history.

No one said your making anything up…just back it up with some sort of link or facts. Most journalists do that. You don’t have to go all freaky when soemone asks you to show some facts.

Your OPINION may end up being right but for right now you have just about as good of an idea as how Irsay will handle this as I do.

Brad,

I appreciate your great coverage of the Colts on the site, and the very realistic point of view you project. Some people consider it pessimistic, which it can come off that way at times, but I side with the realistic point of view more. The only gripe I have with the whole Manning story, is I watched Irsay interviewed on NFL Network, and he made it almost as clear as possible that if Manning is healthy, he will be back with the Colts. He feels, as most of us do, that Manning is one of the best, if not THE best ever, and the likes of anyone coming around similar to him again, this draft or another, are slim to none. He made it very clear how rare it is to have a talent like him, and that he has no problem paying him again if need be, and drafting someone else (ex Luck) if he needs to. He also made comments days later that the decision on Manning will be a “family” decision, basically explaining how valued he is as a player, and institution in Indy, and it won’t be a simple football/financial/cap situation. For someone who seemingly is going to move on from Peyton according to your posts, he sure is making a case against that. I believe if he’s healthy, Manning will re-negotiate his deal to bring some players in from free agency, keep a few players on the current roster, and allow Irsay to draft Luck, and other good picks. Especially with Manning and Luck’s friendship, and Manning’s comments that he can “co-exist with anybody”. Manning knows he got paid this season to sit on the bench and heal. He knows what is owed to him, and that Irsay has to make sure the team is in the best position. Of course, Peyton may not renegotiate a thing. Peyton may never play again. Peyton may “force” his way out of Indy due to Irsay drafting a new qb. Irsay loves Peyton, and values him though, and has stated that multiple times. I can appreciate your opinion, but the certainty in which you claim it, comes off a bit negative, and very well could be wrong.

This is really a non-story.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again- the Colts may indeed draft Luck. HOWEVER, if they plan to draft him, or trade the pick, they would be saying exactly what they’re saying now. The reason is that if you want to trade the pick, you try to create maximum value for it by making the other teams think you really WILL take him. If you publicly state that you’re trading the pick, you will not get maximum value because other teams will perceive that they have a stronger bargaining position.

Therefore, Irsay saying they’re taking Luck really means nothing.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-player-interviews/09000d5d82550a51/What-did-Irsay-say

I agree…. Watching it again it seemed he already knew things to come. He seems like a straight shooter so until I hear othwise it looks like we will finally have an outstanding back up qb in Indy for a few years

People who want to trade Luck would burn the Luke down if Manning is retired in three years and Luck is throwing for 30TDs and making the pro bowl.

So the Colts are drafting Luck #1…….great…..but the rest of your info Luck is the Colts QB like it or not is nonsense…you have no idea if they can be on the same team….of course they can and they will be if the Colts draft Luck…Manning will not be leaving the Colts if he can play…if he can not play then it is all meaningless….Luck will learn from Manning….and the Colts have not made decisions on certain players yet……that does not mean they will not be back….again you have no idea…..more speculation….so your theory about the Colts rebuilding could be nonsense too.

because it ruins Brad Wells theory. Which is all this really is, a theory. If you can watch that video and say theres NO CHANCE the Colts could keep Manning and draft Luck, then youre clearly delusional and just a straight up bullshit artist. Maybe things will change, but to say THERES NO WAY LUCK AND MANNING COULD COEXIST……that is made up dude. And for you to try and be a posting nazi and ban and delete peoples posts who call you out is ridiculous. Get a fucking grip on yourself man.

For 4-5 years! Would you want to sit if you were in his position. Wouldn’t you like to see draft picks if they can trade the pick or Free agents that can be acquired with Mannings cap money…so they could build a…you know…a TEAM not a one man show

when he has a great yr then can trade him for some good draft picks,, and Luck gets one yr of learning under Peyton and if Peyton gets hurt ( hopefully not, but very possible) then Luck steps in

starting to lean towards just ditching manning and rolling on

The problem with the whole Manning scenario is as much about money as it is about his health. How can the Colts pick up a $28 million option if they are not sure he can be healthy. If they pick up the option and he then has a decent year he can’t be traded because the cap hit will be about $31 million dollars. It would cripple the team in “dead money”. The only way he can stay is if the Colts don’t pick up the option and he renegotiates an incentive laden deal (must prove he is healthy) and stays with the Colts. Of course he could also sign with another team.
There are a lot of signs that Manning is finished. Not sure that Irsay would commit to Luck so early if he thought there was a chance Manning could come back. Just a hunch.

he not only reserected the Colts he reserected Indpls. as a sports capital,, if his progress with his neck is not good , he has to go and with the new GM hopefully guys won’t get over paid like Hayden, Brackett, etc.

since the mid sixties. Saw a lot of highs and many, many lows. You can make a good argument that not only is Manning one of the greatest QBs of all time but no player meant more to a city or franchise. Just take a look at that stadium and the amount of interest in the team. It wasn’t always like that and often times the team was a joke. Manning changed all that.
If you look at the history of great QBs it almost never ends well. Usually the player thinks he has a few more years and the team doesn’t. Think Unitas in San Diego or Montana in KC. I personally hope he retires. If he does his legacy in the hearts of Colts fans will always remain and not be tarnished by a messy ending or playing in another uniform.

If the Colts move ahead with Luck it will be an exciting time and I think Colts fans should be very excited about the future.

Down here at Thai Esan Restaurant – all the customers come in and ask me “what’s up with Manning, Luck, etc.?”

I tell them all – if Manning goes, my 46-year love affair with the horseshoe will be at risk.

:^)

Jim

Whether Peyton stays or goes, whether we draft Luck or Griffin, we’d better find a way to get LaMichael James…..we need to some EXPLOSIVENESS to the offense……..PERIOD!!!

if this is true then its true and pro luck fans can start dancing around gloating and we’ll size up this pick in 3 years. however until luck is wearing a colts uniform this is like every other “leaked” report that comes out before the draft so that other teams get more interested in the top pick. i would keep the keep the “i told you so” to a minimum until not only he is drafted but signed and sealed.

Provided Manning ( God) gets back healthy again, it would be great the analysis of the 3 scenarios:

1. Trade Manning
2. Keep Manning and Luck (or RG3)
3. Trade the 1st pick

Ideally the analysis should include cap structure, roster scenarios, trade values etc.

Is there any article out there which talks about it in such a detailed analytical fashion ? I would appreciate if anyone can point me to it . Please no references to articles with loud opinions without any analysis or thought process articulated in the article. Thanks

does not make it true. Especially because info is from an unknown, unacknowledged source and there is no way to verify with Irsay.

I do so wish that this site and its head moderator would learn to stop doing to readers what it asks readers not to do:

1 Bash others needlessly
2 Add speculation to a pile of perceived “factual” information as if it has been authenticated
3 Use name-calling and fear to back people down to shut them up

It really is just a sad thing to see so much of it when common sense and reason can win out.

let’s just hope irsay has more balls than that passive vagina. i think tony was also shocked by the polian dismissal so what does that mean?

Does anyone know what the compensation is?
This is also a very real possibility

http://www.coltsgab.com/2012/01/08/colts-and-manning-agree-to-push-back-28m-option-bonus/

…the Colts will lose me as a fan. Manning defines Colts football and I can’t bear to see him elsewhere. Retired, perhaps, but nowhere else.

Mark my words, Manning will be back and we will blast through with a 10-0 start next season. You guys make it seem like this Luck kid is Jesus himself. I will take Manning with no limbs over some unproven rookie. I really hope Mr.Irsay is not paying attention to the nonsense about trading Manning.

The other day, on the ESPN show “the herd” with Colin cowherd, he was talking about the mManning/ Luck situation and he brought up a very intresting point. He made a point that Peyton Manning is too good. That he has the whole package deal and when he wa at Tennessee and at Indy the team centered the whole team around him because he’s that good Yet in all his time with both of those teams many championships did he win? just 1 and if you recall the one championship he won was because the defense played lights out in the playoffs. He himself was not that spatulas. Actually threw more INTS than TD. I love manning. I really do, but it’s time to move on and rebuilding our TEAM again.

So if this is true,we are going to get a G.M. that doesn’t have the authority to select his own players?
Not a good sign.

Not one player…

You still have Garçon, Collie, Costanzo, Ijlana, Brown, Carter, on offense,

Freeney, Angerer, Bethea, Drake, Powers, and hopefully Mathis on D.

They need an infusion of 5-7 playmakers this offseason, guys like LeMichael James, Chase Minnifield, Robert Lester, Ryan Broyles, DeVier Posey, etc. Pierre Garçon and Donald Brown are the only big play threats on offense and Mathis is the only turnover threat on defense

Whatever else is needed can be filled by vacated cap space for Manning. You could easily sign Aubreyo Franklin, and LaRon Landry along with a starting Offensive Guard…

Let Luck play from day one and build the offense around his skill set

Let’s get some speed and some guys that can help on ST

dis this article get all the page hits you hoped it would?

Yes, I believe we are many. I am a Peyton Manning fan only. Colts? Who cares?
Be careful what you wish for. Given all the speculation and discussions, I would prefer that Peyton moves on whether it be another team like the Jets etc.(Brad only takes URL images or you would see my Photoshop of 18 in a Jets jersey). Perhaps, next year will be Peyton’s debut as an Offensive Coordinator. The Colts are not an organization that I admire and without Peyton it certainly shows. Peyton will cut you (the Colts) and move on. I could care less what you all have to say about Peyton or me. I only care about Peyton.