What needs to happen with Peyton

by Indyballs on Feb 1, 2012 4:40 PM EST

I hate to see the Colts part ways with the greatest QB to ever play the game ~ but it appears as though that will in fact be the case. The problem I have, is that if we are going to lose him, we HAVE to get something back. Irsay should talk with Peyton and come up with 2 or 3 teams in which he would willingly play for. We then sign Manning ~ and ship him to one of those teams in exchange for AT LEAST a 1st round draft pick. We can ship Wayne with him in a package deal. I would be fine with that. We would at least get another first round talent to bring in with Luck, on top of freeing up a lot of money to sign free agents. Grabbing a stud WR with that pick would be ideal....giving Luck a talent to grow in his own with (think Alshon Jeffrey or Michael Floyd). We SIMPLY CANNOT let Peyton go for nothing in return. Does anyone agree with this logic ?

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HE CANNOT BE TRADED

His cap hit to the Colts would be huge and very few teams could fit his salary under their salary cap.
He will be released and a few interested teams will wait to see if he is healthy enough to play.

by javen on Feb 1, 2012 4:44 PM EST reply actions

That is an assumption.

“His cap hit to the Colts would be huge and very few teams could fit his salary under their salary cap. "
The Browns could get it done. The Seahawks could do it. If he is signed and traded ~ what effect would that create for the Colts cap ?

by Indyballs on Feb 1, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions

NO THEY COULDN"T

If the Colts pick up his option on March 8th his cap hit to the Colts, if traded, would be over $44 million in the first year. That is why he is getting released.

by javen on Feb 1, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions

source? not that I don't believe you, just curious where the $44 million number comes from

I was under the impression that Manning’s $28 million bonus had zero impact on the salary cap.

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by BoilerUp1982 on Feb 2, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions

If the bonus is paid, it will impact the salary cap

Even last season, it impacted the cap, but that portion of the bonus will be given back to Colts either by decreasing the Manning cap hit of 2012 if cut or increasing the cap.

by Ty46 on Feb 2, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions

Found some sources with numbers

If the Colts pick up the $28 million bonus, Manning’s cap hit for 2012 is $17 million. SI.com source

If the Colts pick up the bonus and trade Manning in 2012, his cap hit is $38.8 million. If they trade him in 2013, his cap hit would be $28.8 million. ProFootballTalk Source

Nowhere am I seeing that his $28 million roster bonus will affect the 2012 Salary Cap – it appears to swell to a $38.8 million cap hit if he’s traded in 2012, but that’s only if he’s traded, not if he’s retained.

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by BoilerUp1982 on Feb 2, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions

TEAMS TYPICALLY

spread a players bonus out over a number of years to lower the cap hit to the team. Once a player is traded or released the remaining bonus payment accelerates and is counted against the cap in “dead money”.
With a high profile player like Manning this isn’t a problem if he is performing. If, however, he gets hurt or can’t play at his usual level it becomes a huge problem for the team since you can’t get rid of the player without absorbing the cap hit.
That is one of the reasons that there are so few trades in the NFL.

by javen on Feb 2, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianapolis-colts/peyton-manning/

If retained, the cap hit remains 17 million for 2012, but the bonus is already calculated into it. If cut before the bonus is paid, the bonus won’t hit the cap. If cut or traded after it is paid, the bonus’ remaining cap hit accelerates into the season.

by Ty46 on Feb 2, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions

Why don't you read up on why he can't be traded???????

And why don’t people realize, the #1 overall pick is THE COMPENSATION for Peyton’s situation.

by Ty46 on Feb 1, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

I THINK ONCE

fans come to terms with Manning’s inevitable release they will then understand how fortunate they are to be in a position to draft a talent like Luck. Teams can go decades without a franchise quarterback and the Colt’s might be able to land 2 back to back.

by javen on Feb 1, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs