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MockingTheDraft Live Draft Results

So, Friday evening and most of Saturday afternoon, MockingTheDraft had their first live mock and I had the honor of representing the Colts. Scheduled on only be five rounds, it ending up being seven. Here is the breakdown of what happened. I'll try and narrate my thought process as well.

Round 1, Pick 1: Andrew Luck, Quarterback, Stanford University

-I don't really need to explain this one.

Round 2, Pick 34: Chase Minnifield, Cornerback, University of Virginia

-The end of the first saw a number of guys on my BPA list go to other teams. New England took Mark Barron at 27, Chicago took Mohammed Sanu at 19, Green Bay took Peter Konz at 28 and Michael Floyd went to Philadelphia at 23. So, between Brandon Thomspon and Alfonso Dennard I took Minnifield.

Chase Minnifield has somehow gotten the label of being a zone guy and that's just not true. Minnifield performs well in both zone and man coverage. His father was a Pro Bowl corner for Cleveland so Minnifield has been raised around the game. At 6' 185 Minnifield has got the perfect build to play corner in the NFL. He's got the necessary personality traits to excel at the next level and pairing Minnifield with Powers goes a long way toward helping shore up the Colts secondary. Several teams, especially Buffalo, were extremely upset I stole Minnifield right out from under them.

I want to go ahead and address Dontari Poe. I don't like him as a prospect and I've been very vocal about that. I don't think he can consistently produce at an NFL level because his disappeared too many times in games against Conference USA, much less better, competition. Poe wasn't even on my board.

Round 3, Pick 65: Trade. Gave New Orleans 65th and 193rd for 91st, 155th, 219th, 2013 2nd, 2013 4th

-Watching the end of the second round was horrible as every single player I had targeted came off the board. Alameda Ta'amu went to Dallas 45. Josh Chapman was snatched up by the Texans at 48. Kevin Zeitler went to New England at 48. Buffalo repaid me for taking Minnfield by getting Fleener at 47. Detroit took Ben Jones at 54. The trade New Orleans offered was too good to pass up. I didn't see any great prospects for the third round so I moved back to the end, where I could use my list of fourth round prospects. I picked up an additional fifth round pick as well as one high and one mid round pick for the 2013 draft. (Though this had no bearing on the mock, it made sense in playing the role)

Round 3, Pick 91: Nicolas Jean-Baptise, Nose Tackle/Defensive Tackle, Baylor University

-I reached a bit here, by consensus of the group. Perhaps that's true (though for some ranking sites I took him right smack dab in the middle of his range), but the drop-off from Jean-Baptise to the other nose tackles was too great to risk. Jean-Baptise is roughly the same size as Chapman (Both are 6'1. Chapman is 310, Jean-Baptise is 335). During his senior season, Jean-Baptise had 36 tackles with 8.5 tackles for loss. Jean-Baptise also shined at the East-West Shrine Game, absolutely dominating the East squad's interior line in the game and the West's interior in practice. I would have preferred Chapman, but Jean-Baptise is in the same mold.

Round 4, Pick 98: Ryan Broyles, Wide Receiver, University of Oklahoma

-There were a ton of receivers left on the board when I went on the clock with the second pick of the fourth round. Knowing that a run on receivers was coming, I decided to take a gamble on Broyles, and the pick was universally met with approval from the group. If Ryan Broyles hadn't gone down with an ACL-tear, then we'd be talking about being lucky to get him at 34. He is a stand-up citizen and if you've ever seen the Sooners play, you know Broyles has a great feel for the sideline, excellent body control, runs crisp routes with a full route tree, and makes great catches without using his body. Broyles's size at 5'11 185 has some pegging him for the slot, but I think he has the speed to also play outside. Since his ACL was repaired by Dr. James Andrews, I have no doubt Broyles will make a full recovery and become a favorite target of Andrew Luck.

Round 5, Pick 129: Jordan White, Wide Receiver, Western Michigan University

-I hadn't planned on going receiver twice in a row. I considered taking Tank Johnson, ILB, TCU (Tampa took him at 133. I also considered going corner again with Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa (Buffalo at 140). I had hoped Casey Heyward would've fallen, but he went mid-round in the fourth to Dallas at 114. But White, a third-fourth round prospect offered too much value to pass up. While the Colts might be able to resign Garcon or Gonzalez, it's far from guaranteed. White is a good sized prospect at 6'0 215 and is projected to run a 4.48 40. His route tree is limited and needs some polishing, but he does run those routes he knows well. He has good body control and, unlike guys like Quick, Criner, or Jones he makes catches with his hands and not his body. Value trumped need, and the pick was universally hailed by the other GMs present.

Round 5, Pick 155: David Paulson, Tight End, University of Oregon

-Here is another pick I was trying to trade, to grab picks 172, 203, and a 2013 fourth from Kansas City, but he pulled out of the deal. The two guys I had my eyes on were Paulson and Cyrus Grey, the running back from Texas A&M. However, Seattle traded up 148 and took him. So I went with Paulson. The Oregon tight end had a quite season, but looks like a sleeper prospect. Paulson has a good body at 6'4 245. He runs fluid routes, especially across the seam. His blocking seems to have improved and he looked good at the East-West Shrine Game. With a bit of good coaching, Paulson could surprise and I felt like he was the best value in the mid fifth, especially since he's rated a 3-4 prospect.

Round 6, Pick 162: Joel Foreman, Offensive Guard, Michigan State University

-Some of the guys I targeted with this pick were taken. Asa Jackson and Omer Bolden were off the board. Lonnie Edwards, the Texas Tech standout, went one pick before I took Paulson. Foreman has the potential to be a starter. His season was solid, and he has excellent technique in both run and pass blocking which is of vital importance to an offensive lineman in the NFL. At 6-4, 310 Foreman fits with the move of bulking up along the front. He may never be an All-Pro right guard, but he has the tools to be a starter.

Round 7, Pick 219: Mike Daniels, Defensive Tackle, University of Iowa

-Though Bill Polian is gone I had to keep the Iowa-Colts connection going. The guy I really wanted was Grant Garner, the center from Oklahoma State. Unfortunately, Tennessee took him at 204. Fortunately for me, Daniels fell and the pick got an approving declaration of "steal" from moderate setonhallandsteelers. Daniels is a "tweener" defensive tackle at 6'1 280, which may be why he fell so far in the draft. Daniels has a non-stop motor and ended his senior year with 67 tackles, 9 sacks, and 10.5 tackles for loss. I figured with pick 219 taking a high motor defensive tackle to try and convert to a 3-4 end was worth a shot.

So there is the draft. Not as much defense as I went in with on my board, but people were overdrafting rush linebackers and 3-4 defensive ends. That let my get two great receivers in the fourth and fifth rounds. I did manage to address the biggest holes on the defense by nabbing another starting cornerback and a nose tackle, though there are questions as to whether Jean-Baptise can play from day one. I was also banking on some defensive conversions, including resigning Mathis and Anderson and turning Moala and Nevis into 3-4 DE's. I also didn't take any strong safeties because there weren't any for any kind of reasonable value. Barron went in the first and Harrison Smith was overdrafted in the second round. I gamble Delano Howell would be available as a UDFA and I was right, but I don't know if he offers much upgrade over Lefedge.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.

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nice work

obviously when you are actually drafting you dont get your pick of the litter so I especially liked your insight into why you picked each person. I would be pleased with this, getting QB, CB and NT.

Appreciate the work and the update

by ohsnap12 on Feb 19, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

I like the draft.

Wish we could of got a safety at some point though. I was following on MTD and was surprised by how many trades were happening. Overall good draft though.

What if Peyton was fightin' dogs instead of Mike Vick?
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by melvin shot out of a gun bullit on Feb 19, 2012 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

There just wasn’t any value in the safeties. I waver over Barron and I’ll want to see how he does at the combine and how he comes back from injury. Harrison Smith is overrated and gets burned deep way too often. The other ones in the class just seem average at best and not an upgrade over what’s already in place.

by TrueBlue87 on Feb 19, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to upgrade our OL

lest we want Luck to turn into Bradford…. a good OL is very important since we’re risking a ton on a quarterback. Defense can wait till next year. Focus on offense this year so Luck gets a strong footing.

by DoItAlone on Feb 19, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Pretty Nice

The first time I saw the Ryan Broyles I wasn’t to happy, just because of his size and injury (he is small very but also very Reggie Wayne like), but with the way you explained it I’ll trust your judgement and that is a steal. I like the Jordan White pick I think that is good, he’ll be nice to pair with Garcon who will be back next year. Not to happy with the Jean-Baptise pick, I’m a little over 6’ and weigh 200 pounds, i couldn’t imagine being 3/4" an inch taller and weighing 115 pounds more, that’s just fat. And honestly I don’t think the Colts will take a NT this year in the draft. I think they might try FA or Ollie Ogbhu off of the practice squad. Who is slated to be signed to a contract for this season. Chase Minnfield was a good pick that gives us a backfield of Minnifield, Powers, Thomas, and Ruckers with Lacy(insert Mr. yuck’s face here) which isn’t to bad. I think Thomas and Ruckers both of whom where practically rookies have potential. Ultimately I would have liked another CB so we could send Lacey to special teams but we can pick up one next year. I also would have liked a Safety this year, personally I like Harrison Smith, but with the traded picks we have we can pick up someone like Talmeque, from UM next year. Over all it’s a good draft, and a great way to start the rebuilding process which is going to take a couple years anyways.

by MrN1519 on Feb 19, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

You know, I’d not considered Ogbu at nose. It’ll depend on how his body has developed over the last year. I probably did reach a bit for Jean-Baptise, but I got panicky over getting a decent nose, especially with Chapman and Thompson gone.

There were times I considered getting another corner, especially with pick 129 but White was just too good to pass up at that point. I was also thinking of getting Heyward with that pick, but he came off the board four picks before I went on the clock. I wanted to go corner in the sixth, but Jackson went off the board. Lynn from Penn State went undrafted in our mock, so the Colts could have tried to get him on board as a UDFA

As far as a safety is concerned, see my above comment.

by TrueBlue87 on Feb 19, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Saw that

And I can see why you would not bite on him, I was looking at him as more of an in-the box type safety who can patrol the middle, but with the league changing and the Colts changing defenses it’d probably be better to weight a year and go with someone else, next years safety class, I think will be stronger.

by MrN1519 on Feb 20, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

TrueBlue87

We’re writing an article on this mock tomorrow, with critiques from yours truly.

However, this is seriously no joke… great work. All you drafters at MtD did a fantastic job. I followed the mock all weekend, and was VERY impressed.

SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.

by Brad Wells on Feb 19, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

Great Colts mock

I would be very happy if the draft goes this way. We answer three of the biggest needs.
With all the teams running a 3-4, their will be a run on NT’s. Walter Football has broken the different DT’s down to who are actually NT. There are only around 9 that have this size and background to play. I like Baptiste. Many of the DT’s on leader boards are 3-tech or expect to be a 3-4 DE. I would really like to get a true NT or 1-tech. The fans have been looking for a run stopping DT since at least 2005.

by Team2 DaBears on Feb 19, 2012 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

Grammar errors

I want to apologize for all the grammatical errors in the post. I was pretty burned out while writing it, so some slipped through the crack.

by TrueBlue87 on Feb 19, 2012 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

Fantastic draft

Would be thrilled if it goes down like this. Good value at all your spots, and even though it’s fake the trade with the Saints would be brilliant.

Bill and Chris Polian are better talent evaluators than you, count on it.

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by GoHorse88 on Feb 20, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Really like this mock - actually, not that different from the one I posted last week

Only objection would be taking the back-to-back WRs, but I can see the argument for why you did it. I probably would have looked at another DB or LB at 129.

Other than that, I’d be happy with this. Great work.

I am a veteran of the Internet - I will suffer fools gladly. And then mock them. And then post cat pictures.

by BoilerUp1982 on Feb 20, 2012 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

Care to give any reasons why?

by TrueBlue87 on Feb 20, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

reaching for players

didn’t seem to get good value. appears you were going for need way too much over best available. i haven’t seen how the draft played out so i dont kow what you were working with. i like minnifield, but he seems like a reach @ 34. baptise @ the top of the 3rd is just a horrible reach imo….he is a 5th rounder at best. don’t mind broyles at that spot, but again, not great value there.
but then again i’m just a jagoff sitting on my couch…so take it’s for what it’s worth….and i based most of my opinion on the rankings/scouting reports of others lol…like scouts inc and national football post.
and if you guys do it again cancel the trading for picks in the future…that’s like playing poker with no money.

by BLOODontheTRACKS on Feb 21, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I admit to reach for Baptise. I got panicky about getting a nose. I’ll cop to that.

I will say I have to disagree about Minnifield though. Most mocks have him going late first to early second, so I got him right where he’s supposed to guy. Plus, the kid is a great corner.

I think Broyles presents a HUGE value because he’s going to come back from that ACL tear. He’s a great receiver and is going to be a steal for whoever drafts him. I did gamble a bit on White but most evaluations I saw had him pegged as a 3-4 round pick.

Paulson was a HUGE steal. After Allen, Fleener, and Olsen went off the board no one was drafting tight ends. Paulson is rated 3-4 and I got him mid fifth.

I took Foreman right where he was rated and Daniels was a 4-6 prospect who fell because of his size.

I was drafting like the Colts usually draft: on a need/value axis. I had one of the better drafts and took who I thought was the best player available at that position.

by TrueBlue87 on Feb 21, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

my main problem is with the first 3 picks

i still think minnifield is a reach @at 34. he is ranked 72 by scouts inc, 47 by nfp, and 54 by cbs. i just can’t see taking him there if someone like nick perry or andre branch is available…especially if you can pick up someone like josh norman at the top of the third.
like i said, i like broyles, but i would have like him more in the 5th. would have much rather seen a guard who graded out there….pretty deep class for guards

by BLOODontheTRACKS on Feb 21, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I just didn’t feel there was a schemeatic value for guards in the fourth. At lot of those guys are better fit for a power schemes like in Dallas as opposed to the balanced linemen employed by Indy.

I feel like Minnifield is being underrated by a lot of those guys. He’s a great corner and you simply can’t underestimate bloodlines in a prospect.

by TrueBlue87 on Feb 21, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Wondering

Did you get any trade offers for the first pick? Overall they all look like solid prospects.

by shoospa on Feb 21, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

I didn’t get any offers because I never said I wanted to trade it. I don’t think Manning will be able to be Manning anymore, so the best move is to bring Luck and start the rebuild.

by TrueBlue87 on Feb 21, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree on Poe

Baptiste is by far my favorite 3-4 NT prospect in this draft. However, in my mocks I’ve been holding off and getting Akiem Hicks (Regina) or Dominique Hamilton (Missouri) in the 5th/6th rounds. I like the haul, but I really would try to avoid taking Minnifield in the 2nd. To me, he’s not much better (if any better at all) than the good crop of CBs we could get in the 3rd or 4th (Norman, Bentley, Boykin, Leonard Johnson, etc.). My 2nd rounder would be a target for Luck or an OL [TE D’Wayne Allen, WR Sanu, OG Zeitler, TE Fleener, or OG Osemele (on whom I’m not sold)]. Also, I thinks it’s pretty important to draft a center this year. I really like Phillip Blake of Baylor, who we could get in the 4th (maybe the 5th).

by Hetfield on Feb 21, 2012 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

This was very impressive TrueBlue87

I can honestly tell you put tremendous effort in the decision making leading up to this mock.

I really liked the Minniefield, Jordan White, NJB selections and Ryan Broyles will be a good draft steal whoever grabs him this year. Joel Foreman will also be a great steal for any team that selects him (hopefully the Colts will)

Overall, great job (A+)

"I stepped on bullet-shells and crossed over dead bodies -Soulja Slim

by BlueHorseShoe on Feb 23, 2012 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

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