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Tom Condon: Peyton Was Cleared By 'Best Back And Neck Guy In The Country'

INDIANAPOLIS, IN - DECEMBER 18:  Peyton Manning #18 of the Indianapolis Colts smiles in the bench area during Colts 27-13 win over the Tennessee Titans in the NFL game at Lucas Oil Stadium on December 18, 2011 in Indianapolis, Indiana.  (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

The media chess game continues... Sort of.

In an appearance with NFL Network, Peyton Manning's longtime agent Tom Condon made it clear that "Peyton's not done", along with some other goodies. It was generally the same old stuff that we've heard over the past few days, but Condon did help to clarify the report of Manning's clearance.

Per PFT:

But Condon was adamant that anyone who thinks Manning would be foolishly risking his future health if he returns to the field is wrong. Condon said doctors including "the best back and neck guy in the country" have examined Manning and "made a determination that he’s structurally sound."

So, Irsay's insistence that Manning wasn't "cleared by the Indianapolis Colts" is rather irrelevant. We know Peyton is in good hands and if he says his neck is good to go, I have faith that it didn't originate from the expert opinion of some "doctor" in Portugal that practices out of a darkened cellar.

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For those of you that didn't know, the bonus option due to Manning on March 8th can actually be circumvented, but only if both sides agree to restructure the deal.

Condon acknowledged it would be possible for the two sides to re-negotiate the contract and move back the date that the Colts have to pay the bonus, but he didn’t sound interested in doing that.

If Condon and Manning don't become interested in altering the deadline, then the Colts hands will likely be forced to release P-Money. I'm not even going to get into how I feel about this decision (just know that I'm a Manning guy). But with the back and forth that we've seen between both parties, I think it's clear that #18 will not be a Colt next year.

Sad. Very sad.

This situation has been handled poorly from the very onset and Irsay is responsible for a lot of that. (Can't make up his mind, calls Manning's perspective of things "incorrect", refutes a report that is accurate, but ultimately irrelevant etc...) The release of the "clearance" report was silly and clearly a P.R. tactic from the Manning camp, but I doubt that it really needed a Twitter response. (Irsay apparently changed his mind on that "official statement".) I'm extremely happy that Manning's neck is ready and it's certainly great to know that it won't be a factor in his future recovery, whether that entails playing with his twins or getting sacked by Terrell Suggs. But unless he plans on busting out his secret southpaw talents, he's going to need more time [emphasis mine]:

Condon said that Manning’s medical clearance means it would be safe for him to play, and that he wouldn’t be risking greater injury to his neck. Condon added, however, that Manning’s nerve regeneration hasn’t reached the point where he would be able to step on the field and play in an NFL game today.

Will this happen? I believe it will. (I also asked Mother Nature. She said, and I quote, "He's golden.") Manning is obviously confident about his progression and the events that we've seen take place over the last week show a hard push from the Manning camp that he will be ready come 2012. March may only be a month away, but Manning has plenty of time to get a favorable amount of his strength back.

But unlike Manning, the Colts don't have plenty of time to make a decision, unless we see a delay. And between all of the teams that will be pining for Manning's services and the sniping going on in Indy, I think we can all see the writing on the wall.

Can Irsay really take a leap of faith on a 36-year-old, still healing Manning? There's obvious profit and there's obvious risk.

Try to get some sleep, Mr. Irsay.

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He will be playing next year somewhere

and I will be rooting for Him no matter where he is and if he plays the Colts will root for Colts to win , but Manning to have great game,,,, the money always messes everything up !!!

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Feb 3, 2012 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

this

Colts > manning > everything else

by ohsnap12 on Feb 3, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I am tired of this shit.

Both of them need to grow up.

by Odin1980 on Feb 3, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

MANNING IS DONE IN INDY!

Guys GET OVER IT. For crying out loud you’re only delaying the inevitable. He’s not coming back to play for Indy.

by deywalka on Feb 3, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

ok go with me on this

I think we should keep Manning and Luck. Yes I know Luck should play right away but hear me out. It may be a little selfish wanting both of them but to have Luck learn under Manning would be ideal. According to KFFL in 2014 there is a ton of UFA including, Ben Tate, Orakpo, Tuck, Allen, Harvin, Nicks and Maclin. If Luck does start from day one we most likely are not going to win a super bowl, adding that we are trying to switch to a 3-4. But after 2 years experience under Manning, maybe coming in a few games here and there during that time, Manning will be gone and that gives us a lot of money to us on these free agents. I know I’m dreaming but what do you think of this scenario.

by Cwhite916 on Feb 3, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

sound fine but $$$ cap is the problem

added that both wants to start next year also

by kbreboot on Feb 4, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m starting to think this is a conspiracy between Manning and Irsay and that they both already know what’s going to happen and are simply creating the public impression that it’s a tough decison. But I’ll take off my tinfoil hat now…

by Indefatigable on Feb 3, 2012 8:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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by motrepip on Feb 3, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe you..

I always suspected Manning was ready to go had we made the playoffs.
This media circus is focusing on Manning-Irsay-Luck. What is behing the scene.

Colts may be playing the cards already. i suspect.

by kbreboot on Feb 4, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand, but...

I say it hoping I’m dead wrong. From everything that’s transpired, that seems to be the ONLY thing that is truly clear. I want him to stay. Always have.

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by Stew Blake on Feb 3, 2012 10:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Who cares..................

release him and lets move on!!!!!!

by Dito29 on Feb 3, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

you have to care.

why because letting him walk does not help the colts. A free agent and a team of his choosing. At the least you would want to trade him. This is a big IF, things got so ugly with the release that he ends up with the texans. (not going to happen) but lets say he does. They are ready to for their superbowl run. They cut all QB except that rookie, manning steps in. So for the next 3-4 years he gets to rub it our rebuilding colts. It will not do to well for luck either. Having to face the one your suppose to succeed. It’s an IF but you never know just like this whole SAGA.

by kbreboot on Feb 4, 2012 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

that would be awesome

for them to revenge us. houston would finally win in indy :-(

i don't give autographs

by muncie_in_this on Feb 4, 2012 3:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

That's assuming Manning is ready to play

While his neck may have been cleared for MFL action, no one has said a damn thin about his arm. If it doesn’t heal and he becomes Chad Pennington 2.0, the Texans are more than welcome to pay him $18M per year.

by Chris S. on Feb 4, 2012 4:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Just like with Polian...

I will be glad when this is resolved. I’m not rooting for Manning to get cut like I rooted for the Polians to get fired but I understand that it’s the best business decision if Manning isn’t 100%.

I am very excited about this Luck kid. Of course there will never be another Manning but I think Luck will be a stud and make the transition quick as opposed to teams like Denver and Miami who never replaced their HOF QBs…

People will compare him to Peyton but he has to be better than his peers like Stafford, Ryan, Rodgers etc. By the time he is peaking Brady and Brees will be retired or close to.

We are very fortunate to get an elite prospect who will likely be a franchise QB for 12 years…I think the 3-4 aggressive defensive philosophy and Luck could bring a Lombardi back to the franchise and city at some point…

by (206)NightRidah on Feb 3, 2012 11:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Doesn't matter that he is "cleared"

Of course he is cleared to resume his career by doctors, but that doesn’t mean his arm is strong enough to throw passes at an NFL level…that will take several more months to determine. If Manning was really “back” we would have seen video of it by now.

Unfortunately it is going to end this way and at this point all we can hope for is that both Manning and Irsay can be professional about it and that Manning can continue his career in another uniform.

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by AceOfSpades on Feb 3, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

Yup...

If Condon was so confident in his client, why not have a video of Manning tossing 60 yard on target bombs to receivers. Oh… that’s right… he can’t.

I really hope Manning is 100% but this posturing is plain dumb.

by Yougotme on Feb 3, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Read the excerpt.

He clearly says his arm isn’t ready. Yet.

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by Stew Blake on Feb 4, 2012 12:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That was kinda my point...

that this posturing is plain dumb because his arm isn’t ready, so any discussion about “the future” is irrelevant until such time his arm IS ready. Condon needs to just keep quiet. So does Manning. So does Irsay.

by Yougotme on Feb 4, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes they should have kept it shut

but too many lamers make bold statements, that they are forced at hand. I mean one writer says his source is accurate manning will retire. Well that was BS. Then the whole he will not be cleared on time. that was another BS. Media is willing to bait them out to talk because they can.

by kbreboot on Feb 4, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

yes and your's is also speculation

because you don’t know either, nor any body else. The same can be said about any of the QB coming out of the collegiate level. who knows if they can make the NFL throw. This is what i know, throwing the deep ball was never an easy thing for any QB, even more so for manning because he is too good, that teams don’t want to give it to him (deep cover). Brady lives off the short passes, and does so well at it, so in saying that There really is not a whole lot of deep balls, its nice to have, but most passes are in the 5-20yards.

by kbreboot on Feb 4, 2012 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

So why the media battle?

Maybe I’m just too much of an optimist, but it seems to me that the only reason Irsay and Manning would be doing all this posturing is if they were still trying to negotiate something. If Irsay really has decided to release Peyton, and Peyton really isn’t interested in moving the deadline or signing a more realistic deal, then wouldn’t it be pretty easy to just agree to part ways after the Super Bowl and keep quiet about it until then? Or maybe just get it over with?

by ex-Viking fan on Feb 4, 2012 1:04 AM EST reply actions  

Good point.

Some have said that they’re trying to save face in Indy. Irsay doesn’t want to be the bad guy that cut Peyton loose, and Peyton wants to retain his legacy in the City. Who knows. I prefer to believe your hypothesis, that this posturing indicates that Peyton is willing to rework some things, but that he is also trying to work the PR angle so he has to give up as little as possible.

Thing is, it’s totally unnecessary. Irsay will pay Peyton (IF he is healthy). Even if Peyton was totally unguarded about his deep, longing desire to stay in Indy at virtually any cost, and the repugnance of the idea of putting on another team’s jersey, thereby giving Irsay the bargaining advantage, it’s not like Irsay would not still give Peyton a big contract (IF he was healthy). Ii have to wonder how much of this silly dog and pony show is being driven by Condon.

by Wippersnapper on Feb 4, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I love Peyton, but

Unless someone sees him throwing the ball with velocity, accuracy and ease, then, to me, he’s damaged goods and he’s trying to somehow tilt this entire situation in his favor. His fused vertebra may be fine but what about his nerve. Can he consistently grip the ball with no problems? Can he throw like his 2010 self? If he can’t prove this by the March deadline date, then Irsay has to say “the king is dead; long live the king” and move on with Luck. Go Colts!

by SouthDakotaColt on Feb 4, 2012 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

Can he consistently grip the ball with no problems? Can he throw like his 2010 self? If he can’t prove this by the March deadline date, then Irsay has to say "the king is dead; long live the king"

+1, Makes a lot of sense

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by mjtig on Feb 4, 2012 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree...

If his throwing ability is not pretty close to his old self’s, then Irsay must either a) cut him, or b) get an extension for the option bonus.

I have for some time speculated that Peyton will not be where he needs to be by March 8. Until recently, I was holding out hope that Peyton and Irsay would reach a “gentleman’s agreement,” whereby Irsay would cut Peyton, but would resign him a couple months down the road if the rehab gets him back at or near 100%, maybe with a cap-friendlier deal. Regrettably, it’s becoming clear that neither side is interested in any sort of agreement, gentlemanly or otherwise.

by Wippersnapper on Feb 4, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

specualtion again

The only ones that need to stay out of it are the meida and their million opinions like they know everything about the whole scenario….like they are in on every conversation with Manning and Irsay…stop the guessing games and stirring up crap….all media…leave it alone….you all are ruining the Super Bowl….

by Colts53 on Feb 4, 2012 7:12 AM EST reply actions  

Let's assume Manning gets back to 2009-10 form.

In other words, if playing abilities were not in question, and it was just a matter of money, would all of the “let’s cut him loose” crowd still want Manning to go? No one was screaming that Manning’s contract was foolish before he sat out last season. So, I assume that the (for lack of a better term) “anti-Manning” folks’ (I know, I know, you’re not anti-Manning, but that’s the shortest way of labeling that crowd) problem is just the health uncertainty?

If Peyton regains his arm-strength/velocity, I’m of the mind that the Colts should make every reasonable effort to retain him. Hopefully, Manning would give up a little bit to make room for Luck and a couple other playmakers on defense.

by Wippersnapper on Feb 4, 2012 9:07 AM EST reply actions  

I think you still have to take Luck

Look at teams that had top five picks that did not take the best QB available, they still are looking, like Miami, Cleveland, Houston until Shaub, Dallas and the list goes on. The Tom Brady’s of the world are rare. It’s hard to replace a legend and we have a great prospect, from a good family, good background..it’s an easy choice.

by armycolts25 on Feb 4, 2012 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

The more I think about it, the more sense it makes.

Why would Peyton will want to play for a Colts team in rebuilding mode, a Colts team that mismanaged his injury, and a Colts team that will draft Luck, and colts team with new coashing staff ?

Maybe he doesn’t.

Peyton is such a class act that He will never admit it, but what is going on on this little media battle points to a Peyton Manning pushing for his release, the medial clearance thing was not aimed to the Colts(see Irsay 1:30am tweet) ,it was aimed to the rest of the NFL teams,like saying don’t completely believe what he Colt’s are saying, re-listen to his agent interview in nfl tv, he says there were multiple mentions by the Colts (yahoo,cole sources all colts leaks) that Peyton should or will retire, because of risk to his long term health.

It wont surprise me if Peyton is closer than we and the Colts think, Colts leak to yahoo stated that Peyton was not able to grip the ball.. wtf? then why rehab at all? Peyton looks like he has hope. then he must be feeling a good amount of progress ,he looks confident.

Why he came up with all this? well Irsay was playing the “long term health” card, because if this was the reason to releasing Peyton it would be easier for the fans and the city to approve.

But, at the same time this “card” hurts Peyton chances of getting to play for another team.

He need teams to be interested in him, because he wants to play and wants to win, thats the why of all this circus, go back a couple of days ago, all the news in the media,twitter was that Peyton was done.

If he doesn’t want to play for the Colts, he also doesn’t want the fans to know about it. but maybe will show less in the teams evaluations than what it really is, so he can get his release.

sums up to, Colts wants Peyton to retire so it would be easier for the team/fans/city and him to move on, but Peyton wants to play for a team again and maybe he doesn’t want that team to be the Colts.

"If anything, we want to go out there and step it up. Of course it will be different (without Manning), but it’s one of those things that if it happens, everybody else has to step up. It’s next man up." - Pro Bowl safety Antoine Bethea

by thebossuzzi on Feb 4, 2012 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

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