I just watched the Andrew Luck interviews: Is this really the guy?
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Stupid fvcking post
Your dismissing his leadership ability because he didn’t come out and say ditch your HOF quarterback or I’ll kick your butt for the next 15 years.
He knows he’s the number one selection; there is no threat. And he has been clear about wanting to start from day one. The kid seems ready. You’re clearly grasping at straws.
by mlc2656 on Feb 3, 2012 6:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
That isn't at all what I said
My analysis went a lot deeper than that. I don’t expect him to say, ditch your HOF QB. I do expect him to answer the question, “Will you be #1” more like “I’ve worked hard and proved all I can in football. Any team that drafts me is going to get a great player”
He’s so bashful, it really doesn’t win me over. If I’m a player I’m saying, “The new QB is kind of weird.” He seems so uncomfortable. I feel like the hype around this guy is causing us to ignore some serious deficiencies.
I would expect a future HOF QB to act much more like RG3 has, and Cam Newton did. Leave the ‘athletic QB’ argument aside. I’m much more impressed with what I’ve seen from those two. Other players like Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, etc. have been much more confident and poised. This guy just seems like he wants to run away from the camera.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Really?
If we have learned anything over the years is just because he isnt saavy yet, doesnt mean that he will never be…i.e. Eli Manning…..I’ll bet Michael Straihan and Tiki Barber wished they would have kept their criticisms of their young QB to themselves…..nothing like haviing your words come back to haunt you on national television…..Bob Costas I believed told on them….Helped his Giants win 2 SuperBowls!!!! He kept quiet and took the high road…. paid off big time.. dontcha think? Andrew Luck needs to sit down, shut up and learn to play with the big boys……He will take his cue from his veteran players.
We want him here to play football. Ask the guys at Stanford whether they think he’s a good leader after leading them (an unknown to football) to two identical 12 win seasons and posting identical stats despite changes in head coaching.
There’s something called lead by example. Luck has proven he deserves to be #1. Why the hell would be have to be prick and yell that to the world.
We have way too many athletes who boast about themselves. Luck’s attitude in his interviews are simple: I just want to play and win. You guys can analyze the rest.
RG3 is telling everyone he deserves to be #1 cuz thats what the second place guy always says. He wants to steal the attention.
The greatest tribute to Luck’s leadership is that he commands attention without even asking for it. Thats the attitude we need
*proved all I can in COLLEGE football
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
please impose a self ban
that was ridiculous. you might as well have just said “i’m am going to make up reasons not to like andrew luck.”
by BLOODontheTRACKS on Feb 3, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
What's ridiculous?
Are you saying his personality has no value to how he will preform as the leader?
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
Also
I’d rather nit-pick and try to find every reason why he MIGHT not be the best pick than just assume he’s perfect and stop evaluating.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
i agree with you mark
its good to ask questions
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Feb 4, 2012 1:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's interesting
For every fan that blindly follows Peyton Manning and has more allegiance to 18 than they do to the Colts, I’m getting the feeling there are 2 that accept everything ESPN has made Andrew Luck out to be and will hate the Colts if they don’t draft him.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
We as fans are not drafting Luck.
The Indianapolis Colts are and I am sure that they have scouts, tape, and everything else under the sun that they need to make this decision.
That's my stance as well
but if the colts trade the pick or draft anyone else I think Colts nation will be in uproar and form a coup
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Feb 3, 2012 7:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I know.
RG3 is a good QB and if you can find the most recent SI article, he has more of what you’re looking for. Its a good read.
Fans need to understand that they have no say in anything. I think some people think that their constant barrage on twitter to Jim Irsay to fire Caldwell or Polian was the reason they were let go.
yeah it was BBS who took down caldwell and the polians
i don't give autographs
by muncie_in_this on Feb 4, 2012 1:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Haha
Awesome. Probably not a good idea to stroke that ego, but that was funny. Everyone else in the world will see the humor in it. BBS will nod in agreement.
by PeytonTheManning on Feb 5, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
all this back and forth about whose right/ wrong about manning and luck is getting old
hope colts never have the #1 pick again since its caused more division than excitement and all this Irsay/ Manning crap has too. i’m going to start doing what all fans need to do and wait to see whats happens first instead of looking stupid when our “predictions” are 100% wrong. its like there are 100 Tony Dungy’s in this blog! I will let irsay look like an idiot trying to become jerry jones midwest or the riddler and let manning continue to be the politician.
but one thing I 1000% agree… for every cool luck fan I run into there are 100 more luck fans who complain, piss, and moan about fans who grew up cheering for manning who want to keep him and call these fans stupid or not “real colts fans” (like the ones criticizing are the OFFICIAL yardstick for a fan). Most Colts fans like me understand if he is not healthy then its a done deal but some luck fans act THE SAME FREAKIN EXACT WAY with Luck but try to make it like they are really Colts fans and any other thought is tantamount of going against the “horseshoe” which is the cheesiest thing I heard when Irsay spilled that out. I bet most luck fans would revolt like Mark said if he wasn’t picked… kind of like the way fans did when Ricky Williams wasn’t pick or even Leaf if some are honest then looked stupid.
i think the debate is
Long term future vs short term future. Simple as that really.
by mlc2656 on Feb 3, 2012 8:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What?
What do tv interviews have to do with leading a team? For one, he didn’t seem awkward to me, but it’s a moot point anyway. A team wants to be led by a guy who practices and plays hard all the time. Look at Eli Manning. No charisma whatsoever and you’ll never see him blow up on anybody or talk himself up to the media. Hell. the first headline-grabbing comment he made in his career was this season at the age of 31, when he said he thought he was an elite ( and even that was just cocky for him). Yet, the dude is tough and nails, so his team has 100% faith in him, and he’s playing for his second Super Bowl ring. Give me a break. And it’s no surprise that someone on the RG3/ Newton bandwagon would try to use something like that to lower Andrew Luck’s stock. He’s going number one like he should. Get over it.
by Adam McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Eli is the best argument
but he still has always seemed confident and not awkward. Elli just isn’t vocal.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Feb 3, 2012 7:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
OMFG! Eli is the most
comical, Opie looking person during an interview I’ve ever seen. He sounds much more intelligent when he keeps his mouth closed. Dude this is a stupid article and I’m glad most Colts fans care more about his production on the field than they do about his interviewing skills off of it. Please find something better to do with your time than writing this shit. If you want to knit pick, go pick up a ball of yarn and a needle. SMFH
i was with you
until you put smfh
thats ultra gay
Brady Quinn
We could always get Brady Quinn. He has a good personality, What about Chad Pennington? I know he’s retired but he is a great interview. Hey, this QB evaluation thing is easy. I used to go by skill set, but I was way off base.
I never said personality is everything
I’m just saying you can’t discount it.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Feb 3, 2012 7:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Have you ever met him? Have you seen him play? Have you talked to Stanford players?
Then STFU.
I know what you’re trying to say. But actions speak way louder than words… especially in the locker room. Andrew Luck is not your average guy or even ur average pro football player.
Thats what makes him special. He’s unique… in a good way. What other personality do you need
when stanford
was in triple overtime against USC Luck was on the sidelines screaming his lungs out firing up his team to go out and get the job done, and it was awesome. I think that says much more about him than a tv interview.
Think about it. What would you do when you were 22 something and everyone was talking about you, I know for sure I would have been more than a little flustered. Luckily, we don’t pay them to interview we pay them to lead on the field.
Can't argue with that
I think you should hold a “reasoned argument” workshop for a lot of the knuckleheads on this site.
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Feb 3, 2012 7:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
hehe
ya my first post on here got flamed pretty bad, don’t let it bother you. Sift through it and you can usually find some people nice enough to discuss the issue rather than just insult you.
Agreed
I get a lot of flak as well. Don’t let it bother you. I seen the interview and I disagree with the post as well. It just seemed like he was a young guy (which he is). He wasn’t the most assertive guy but I’m sure he is plenty assertive/confident in the huddle and between the lines. Honestly, I wouldn’t be upset with him or RGIII. I just believe Luck is best for this team. He does remind me of Napoleon Dyamite though………I don’t think it will be a problem in the pros though!!!!!
Reasoned arguments go both ways
I think lot of people are throwing you flak for the rather obvious fallacy in your article: You’re trying to judge Andrew Luck’s personality and leadership skills off of some TV interviews. That’s a situation where most high-profile athletes dial it back, try to be non-controversial and say the right, politically correct, non-inflammatory things.
In your article, you paraphrase some strong statements from a young Peyton and a young Tom Brady. Yet you completely neglect to mention those statements were made to their employers (Brady) or prospective employers (Manning). Neither of them made those statement in public to ESPN. You’ve seen Manning and Brady act the exact same way Luck did in those interviews countless times when addressing the media, especially early in their careers.
If anything, I came away impressed with Luck after those interviews. He’s obviously still adjusting to the intense spotlight that the media shines on a presumptive No. 1 pick. Yet he handled himself well, didn’t say anything controversial, and generally showed the instincts a lot of people want in a guy who’s going to be the face of your franchise (i.e. he’s never gonna run his mouth and embarrass you).
You can’t judge how he’ll be as a leader based off TV interviews. How he handles the public, especially at a time where he’s trying not to make a stir (as the presumptive No. 1 pick, all he can do is hurt his draft stock by being controversial), is going to be dramatically different than how he interacts with teammates in the locker room and in the huddle.
True
Excellent post. Couldn’t have said it better myself (obviously)
by Adam McDougal on Feb 6, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
He reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite.
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by Reds_Colts1975 on Feb 3, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
YES!!!
"It's about the journey--mine and yours--and the lives we can touch, the legacy we can leave, and the world we can change for the better."
— Tony Dungy
by Mark Olson on Feb 3, 2012 8:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This is dumb post..He will be fine as a leader
The same crap was said about Eli Manning, hes in his 2nd superbowl.
by armycolts25 on Feb 3, 2012 8:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I disagree
He’s simply a young guy and not a comm major. What about Eli, until at least he won the SB (and I’d argue not even then), he was anything but a “leader of men” or Mr. Charisma. Tiki Barber was an ass, but I thought he was correct that Eli wasn’t exactly locker room inspiring.
Not to feed to flames on this pointless post, but...
I can name many Humble QBs who have been successful. Roger Staubach, Jim Plunket, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana, etc. etc. Heck, if you go back at look at interviews from Peyton early in his career, he is very humble during interviews. "Yes sir", "no sir", "I would be honored to be compared with those great quarterbacks", etc. etc. Sorry, but your point is well, pointless. Leaders can still be humble in any line of business. I thought Andrew did a good job handling all the interviews in a tough situation.
Luck is just doing the right thing
I think he is handling his interviews very well. You have to consider he is in somewhat of an awkward situation, considering he is most likely going to be the #1 overall pick, and the Colts may very well be the team to take him which could essentially mean Manning getting the boot. Here is a guy who has attended Manning’s passing camp and has somewhat of a relationship with him, he doesn’t want to overstep his bounds over what is most certainly Peyton’s Place. I think when the future is a bit clearer (post combine) you will see more definitive answers from Luck. For now he is answering in a very professional manner. Also you can’t base an athlete’s ability to lead off of interviews. From what I read Stanford players and coaches rave about Luck’s leadership capabilities. He is probably somewhat out of his comfort zone during all these interviews and news columns, which is to be expected. I’d rather judge him for what he does on the field (proven). Give the kid a shot before you exile him to the bust list.
He's still just a college student
If he came out talking sh*t all the time about how awesome he was I would be more uncomfortable with that. I’m still not sold on his arm strength as it relates to throwing 15-20 yard lasers, but I still like what I see from him.
Don’t forget Eli Manning’s demeanor is very humble and calm and he seems to be doing alright.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Maybe...
… if he had strutted into the interview area with a fifth of Jack in one hand, and a supermodel under his other arm?
Or maybe, if he slapped the interviewer a time or two?
Or, he could have tossed a Steeler’s Terrible Towel on the floor and dropped a deuce on it?
Maybe then, and only then, he might have gained some “street cred” …
Good lord
I’ve never been sold on him. He’s been over-hyped in my opinion.
by KingRichard on Feb 4, 2012 9:33 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I disagree with this story
I am very impressed with Luck after watching the interviews
by 1959Colts on Feb 4, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agree
I thought he gave great interviews. He was much more thorough and much more intelligent with his answers than most athlete interviews that you hear.
Just because he’s not comfortable giving interviews, and not telling everyone how much ass he’s going to kick doesn’t mean he can’t lead a football team.
by Guy LeDouche on Feb 4, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
College
His college stats and performances are pretty much tell you all you need to know. This kid can get it done.
by Guy LeDouche on Feb 4, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
disagree with you, Mark. He came across witty, humble, grateful, and confident.
Luck himself said it best in the interview: Lead within your personality. Be who you are and other people will respect that.
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
Yes.
You have to be who you are. Not what anyone else wants you to be. That being said I hope I am dead wrong about this young man. But I do not see elite any thing about him.
Aw, C'mon!
Similar things were said of Eli “Two Ring” Manning. And MVP Rodgers ain’t no arogant, “I’m the best”-type interview either…
You're an idiot
Point me to the TV interview that Manning did where he said those things? He said them behind closed doors in private meetings with Polian. Big fucking difference than going on TV in Indinanapolis 2 days before the SB, with all that is going on with Peyton and the love the fanbase has for him.
I watched the interviews too, and he sounded PC. Glad you aren’t in charge of anything.
From an avid follower in the Bay Area...
There’s absolutely no reason to doubt Andrew Luck.
I can’t guarantee anything, but this post just seems like complete nit-picking.
by TheFreakSFG on Feb 9, 2012 2:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs

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