Colts win 22-20!

by Brad Wells on Sep 16, 2007 4:05 PM EDT in Colts News

Vince Young costs his team the game with a costly personal foul in the second half, and a fumble as time expired in the fourth. Not quite the beatdown I thought it would be, but a solid win nonetheless.

Full recap later today. GO COLTS!

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Ridiculous

The penalty(which was in the first half) maybe, but VY did not fumble. He lateraled it to a lineman while being sacked, our offensive lineman fumbled.

If you are saying that the Titans should have won then I will agree with you.

by DonFrancisco on Sep 16, 2007 4:10 PM EDT reply actions

I dunno if they should have won...

Both teams had chances to win, and both teams made great plays. To me Indy got the win, but the Titans could have won easily too.

Go Colts!

by Marked Hoosier on Sep 16, 2007 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't know about that...

Titans left everything they had on that field today. "Easily", was not the word of the day. It was a hard fought game, and I am glad it was. That is the type of game, that builds character.

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 16, 2007 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions

That's BS

VY was the reason the Titans were in the game that late. The Colts special teams and red zone offense made that game about 15 points closer than it should've been. We were obviously the better team, but our mistakes almost cost us the game. Good to see we overcame them, but we have to shore that up before we start facing top-tier teams.

Impressed with VY's game today. He still has a way to go to become a complete player, but he's a damn good leader. But, was it just me, or were the Titans kind of dirty? Maybe I'm just being a homer. Let's put the kibosh on VY costing his team the game, though. Be realistic.

by BSanders37 on Sep 16, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions

He suprized me

with how well he played. He still has work to do for sure but he was able to take advantage of 8 in the box.
The penalty was stupid of him and the lateral was desperation, but what I noticed before the lateral is that he wasn't looking down field at all once he started moving. He bought enough time for someone to find a hole in the zone but he wasn't looking for his receivers.

by shake n bake on Sep 16, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll say it before a sad, sad Titans fan does

It was a lateral to a Lineman. Not very smart, really worse from a Vince Young's intelligence standpoint than accidental fumble.
I'm curious to hear how the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty isn't a really dumb thing for him to have done.

I'm pissed about the missed Illegal contact call on the Manning INT. It looked like a sure penalty to me and the CBS commentators. Anyone have an explanation besides the refs blew it?

by shake n bake on Sep 16, 2007 4:12 PM EDT reply actions

Contact

I agree there was contact, but I will say that it happens on virtually every play just like holding.
It very easily could/should have been called, it just wasnt.

by DonFrancisco on Sep 16, 2007 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Anyone Seeing The Browns Blowing out the Bangles!

Bout time Cleveland got a win... wait, might have spoke too soon...

Are they even playing defense over there in Ohio?

Go Colts!

by Marked Hoosier on Sep 16, 2007 4:17 PM EDT reply actions

it is like holding

When it affects the play it should be called. Wayne wasn't even close to the pass because of the illegal contact.

by shake n bake on Sep 16, 2007 4:17 PM EDT reply actions

Pathetic

That the blog author has THAT to say after the game.

If Brandon Jones catches that VY pass, the Titans get a shot at a game-winning field goal.

Vince Young played imperfectly, but damn well. It's really sad that the lead to this post is about how Vince somehow cost his team the game.

I said earlier in the week, and I'll say it again - nothing changes over here. And never will.

Just a note to any Titans fans who wander in here and wonder what's going on.

by Burnt Orange Nation @ Stampede Blue on Sep 16, 2007 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

Vince Young

I know this is hard for you to understand, BON, but if Vince Young is the kind of studly player you claim he is, he doesn't try and backward lateral to his o-lineman during crunch time.

Young also committed a DUMB personal foul penalty in the second half, which cost his team points.

If people disagree with me all this, fine. This game should have been over in the third quarter. But a bad pick my Manning in his own territory made this a game.

Again, if Vince is as good as everyone says he is, he wins this game. It's their home opener. He's supposed to be a "winner" right? Well, winners make plays in the fourth quarter when it counts.

Vince didn't. I'll have a full recap later.

Please make an account and post a diary, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.

by Brad Wells on Sep 16, 2007 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh

And "sad" is the amount of Vince Young ball washing you do after he gets criticized. You want some Scope after that slurp job, BON?

Please make an account and post a diary, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.

by Brad Wells on Sep 16, 2007 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions

wow

definately not the kind of talk I expect form the author of some of the material on this blog... Show some class bro.

Exactly what did you want VY to do on 4th down when he was basically in the hands of every Colt defender out there???

VY played well, and was damn close to winning this game. He is only a 2nd year player, and he is playing on the Titans.... He isn't the great winner that the media portrays him to be, but he definately wasn't the reason the Titans lost this game.

by Burt Doyle on Sep 16, 2007 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Ugh

Winners make plays? How about that drop for a sure first down to keep the drive (and the game) alive. Is he supposed to throw it and catch it?

This really stands out to me: "Now, unlike Titans fans, I'll actually show some respect for my team's opponent."

Interesting....

Yes sir! I damn thee!

by Navin R. Johnson on Sep 16, 2007 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions

It shouldn't...

have been this close..

Our offense's lack of execution in the red zone and Vinatieri having an off day could have cost us this game.

Still.. I will the Titans props..they played well enough to steal it from us.

by Levante on Sep 16, 2007 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

Great game by my son

but lucky win.

by ArchieManning on Sep 16, 2007 4:31 PM EDT reply actions

let's go over...

to patspulpit and make login names such as Bob Kraft, or Belicheat and post as if we really were those people. What do you say guys? Isn't that a really neat idea?

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 16, 2007 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

my favorite

would be Shady Brady. If someone beat me to it I'll be pissed.

by shake n bake on Sep 16, 2007 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions

It won't log in

I'm calling shenanigans.

by shake n bake on Sep 17, 2007 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions

i got Robert Kraft

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 17, 2007 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions

See you

In week 17. Excited to see what kind of backwards analysis you're offering then.

by longtitan on Sep 16, 2007 5:03 PM EDT reply actions

I've got your analysis

That game most likely won't matter. How's that for analysis?

by Levante on Sep 16, 2007 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Vince Young stinks

Tired of the Vince Young apologist. He cost his team this game with his penalties and over-throws.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 16, 2007 5:27 PM EDT reply actions

FINALLY-

SOMETHING I CAN AGREE WITH.

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 16, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions

He doesn't stink

He played well. He kept his team in the game. The Colts should have won this game by 20. Their offense left at least 16 points on the field today. I'm thrilled they hung on and won, but they have some things they need to work on. Dropped passes, miscommunications, overthrown passes, missed blocks, and defense had some issues with biting on fakes/too large cushions in the secondary. And our two backup outside LBs didn't impress.

Good, solid win, but we let Titans hang around when they didn't deserve to be in it. VY made some good plays, made some mistakes. But without him the Titans are a bad, bad offensive team. I don't like the guy either. He talked crap the whole game,but he's a good player. Not a good passer, but a good player.

by BSanders37 on Sep 16, 2007 5:38 PM EDT reply actions

On a better note...Bob Sanders...

My God, the man had 11 tackles and 2.5 SACKS today! 2.5 sacks! Most safeties are lucky to get 4 sacks all year and he racked up 2.5 today while throwing in 11 tackles, 7 solo. If the Colts defense can secure a top-15 ranking and he can stay healthy I don't see how he doesn't make a run at defensive player of the year. He's amazing.

by BSanders37 on Sep 16, 2007 5:43 PM EDT reply actions

without freddie or rob

the titans rush game wasn't much though young got 53 yards, but that is without freddie and rob in there... missing two starting lb's

we made some stupid calls at the end.. why were we throwing when we could have run the ball and run the clock... and maybe kicked a fg so the titans would have needed a td with little time left... dumb dumb dumb..

young still wasn't throwing that well.. his completion percentage was better, but there were a lot of short dumps ...he still can't beat you with his arm

and yes that personal foul penalty was dumb... even dierdorf said the refs will throw that every time when you throw the ball at another player.. Vince was mad because he was running and he got hit. when you become a runner you are fair game.. get used to it.

by bluegirl on Sep 16, 2007 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

Well said...

Instead of throwing the ball at Hayden because he was "upset" he should try and learn to actually throw the ball with accuracy to his players.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 16, 2007 6:04 PM EDT reply actions

Also...

Big props to the D for playing without are two best run stopping LB's.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 16, 2007 6:09 PM EDT reply actions

Bob Sanders...

it was his game.

Even he got juked out by Vince Young once--Young is a hell of a player. He is a slick runner, but I don't think it's a good way to stay healthy. That time he wouldn't go down with 9 Colts on him, I though Brocks shoe went through his facemask. He's going to have to learn to take a career saving slide. He refuses to give up, which is a good personality for a defensive player, but not a quarterback.

I thought the Titans would be tough against the Colts offense--because they always are. The Colts defense did great considering two starting linebackers were out. The game came out the way it was supposed to.

Houston's going to be tough too. And they are kind of an unknown quantity now.

by will on Sep 16, 2007 6:44 PM EDT reply actions

staying healthy

young will find out why being a scrambler is so tough... guys like mcnair and vick missed a lot of games to injury.. it is the risk you take when you run instead of throwing. there is a reason RB's have short careers, they take the abuse. young looked a bit battered and shaken after a few of the hits he took... and it adds up after a season. and he has to learn to keep his temper when things aren't going his way or he will cost his team again.

Houston will be interesting, but their defense worries me more than their offense. I don't think schaub is that much better than carr, at least not yet, and he has yet to play a divisional rival, and KC really doesn't look very good yet, so he really is untested yet.

by bluegirl on Sep 16, 2007 6:54 PM EDT reply actions

the field

And did anyone else notice the field seemed rather slippery somehow... seemed like a lot of our guys were falling down on cuts.

by bluegirl on Sep 16, 2007 6:58 PM EDT reply actions

Field

Our field is absolutely terrible. They brought in new sod this summer which obviously didnt take w/o any rain. Tennesse State (TSU)also plays there on Saturdays which makes it even worse.

The entire field was sand. It wouldnt suprise me if that was Vinateri's problem.

by DonFrancisco on Sep 16, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Jennings

Anybody else worried about how badly Tim Jennings was getting worked?

by burc on Sep 16, 2007 7:03 PM EDT reply actions

Jennings

He made a great hit in the backfield though. He does still needs work in coverage and that's what he'll get as the nickelback.

by shake n bake on Sep 16, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions

great game

That was a great game between two great teams. Manning was brilliant as usual. I think that was the toughest effort from an opposing team that we are likely to see this year. We could still get beat later on if we don't come to play mentally ready but we had to play our best to beat the Titans today.

by coltsfan on Sep 16, 2007 7:22 PM EDT reply actions

Man...

The Titans fans over at MCM are pretty pissed at BBS, and I can see why. Young played a solid game today. Some stupid mistakes, sure, but he's light years ahead of Leinart or Cutler at this point in his career. Great passer? No. Good player? Certainly. Again, Young didn't lose the game today, and I'd LOVE to say he did. He talked crap to the Colts all game and the Titans were dropping some dirty hits on the guys in blue. But let's win with some class.

by BSanders37 on Sep 16, 2007 7:56 PM EDT reply actions

What?!!

How can you honestly say that Vince Young played well? He under threw some key passes and also cost his team with that personal foul. And your comment about him being better than Leinart is WAYYYYYYYY off. Lets compare...

Vince Young 17/27 184 and 1 TD

Matt Leinart 23/37 300 yards 1 TD 1 INT

In this case I would say that statistically they are the same, but Vince Young threw a lot of curl routes and quick dump offs when his excellent O-line picked up our rather poor defense. Bottom line is I would take Leinart over Vince Young any day.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 16, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions

blitz

Our poor defensive blitz that is to say. The Colts knew that Vince Young can't read a defense or beat you with his arm. I will say that the secondary played very well for us.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 16, 2007 8:18 PM EDT reply actions

Stats

I can't believe you're making me defend a guy I hate, but stats don't tell the whole story - never do. Young kept several drives alive - like he always does - with his legs. Did you see Leinart last week against Arizona? Neither did anyone else. Never judge by stats. Ask any GM in the league who they'd rather have, I bet you 80 percent would say Young. Now excuse me, I'm going to go puke because you made me defend Vince Young.

Come on stat mongers, just give the guy credit, he gets it done, stats be damned.

by BSanders37 on Sep 16, 2007 8:25 PM EDT reply actions

Well...

I did see Vince Young's stats from last week...

78 yards 0 TD 1 INT

Those. Stats. Are. Terrible.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 16, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions

I gotta speak up ...

As much as we have trashed "Stinks" Young this week leading up to the game, he came through with a solid passing performance against us. He took Tim Jennings to school for most of the game, and they looked threatening.

That said, there was only 1 (what I would call) legitimate offensive TD the Titans scored against us all game. If the holding penalty on Wayne had been called, that TD would have been negated.

Kudos to Stinky for his solid passing game against us. Our secondary looked flat today.

by PaytonMenning on Sep 17, 2007 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Playing poorly/costing the titans the game

I don't think anyone is saying that VY is a lights out throwing quarterback. But as a mobile quarterback he has intangibles that you just don't get from a guy like, say, PMan. When coverage is tight, or when he can't make the throw, the play isn't necessarily a loss, he can use his legs to make a play. Thats why comparing straight line statistics just isn't a fair comparison.

VY is a definite sub par passer, but I wouldn't say he is a sub par player. He definately isn't in my top 10, hell even 20 qbs to start a franchise with.... But thats because I'm more atune to the drop back passer style, I definately favor that. But I also understand where VY supporters get their idea that he has "upside" or a "winning attitude".

by Burt Doyle on Sep 16, 2007 8:26 PM EDT reply actions

Ok

Well of course being able to run as a QB is good, but if you can't throw is means nothing. Take McNabb for example, he has good legs and a great arm. Even though he can run he makes many more plays with his arm. Steve Young was the same way. Unless Vince Young can learn to throw he will be a sub-par passer and a sub-par passer is a sub-par Quarterback.

Oh and as for a "winning attitude" let me just say that its the NFL. Everyone is supposed to have a "winning attitude" if their football careers extend to the pro level.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 16, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions

The peanut gallery has a point

In today's NFL, there are more mobile quarterbacks than probably any point in the history of professional football. The problem is that just being mobile doesn't win games. Being a polished passer AND being mobile wins games. Also, more mobile QBs like McNair, McNabb, Vick, and Young tend to have much much shorter shelf lives than their pocket counterparts, simply because they take the hits that pocket QBs don't. If you had to ask me right now who's the better QB between Leinart and Young, I'd probably say Young. But if you had to ask me who I'd rather build a franchise around, I'd say Leinart, simply because the odds are that he's going to be around longer. He may not have as high a ceiling, but the chances of him getting popped at full speed by someone like Bob Sanders are significantly lower.

by MonkeyBusiness on Sep 16, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions

This site

Always leaves me with a very unpleasant taste in my mouth after I read it.
The main basis for the writing seems to be highlighting the negativity in others, instead of interesting insight, or good analysis, or creative writing, or any of the other aspects that make all the good blogs out there stand out from the rest.

JJ>you

by TheSchaub on Sep 16, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions

And yet...

you still read this blog. :)

Go Colts!

by Marked Hoosier on Sep 16, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions

So...

any guesses on when the "Fire Turner" signs come out in San Diego?

Go Colts!

by Marked Hoosier on Sep 16, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions

ya

the chargers were not prepared for this game.
you could tell it was over after the first pats TD.

by torontocoltsfan on Sep 16, 2007 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Ben Utecht

Am I the only person that saw Utecht just about get his head taken off twice??

The first time was on his reception in the first half when the ball got stripped away. Two Titans tried to jump on the ball, while a third one jumped on Ben, ripped his helmet off and threw it five yards. What was that all about???

The second time was that REEEAALLLYY nasty facemask penalty, which, thankfully, the Titans got called for. I winced when I saw the replay, because they could have broken his neck. His helmet was on BACKWARDS at the end of the play!!!

Playing dirty? Ya think?

by Picky on Sep 16, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions