Gruden/Dungy
I come here as a Buc fan, but many in Tampa, including myself, have a great deal of respect for Tony Dungy. The way Dungy carries himself on and off the field is top notch. The Colts take on his calm persona and his ability to treat men as men earns his players respect. He also knows defensive talent when he sees it and his game planning and strategizing are vastly underrated.
Coaches who yell, like Gruden, can be effective also, especially if they know their stuff and work long hours like he does. Unfortunately the message wears thin after some time. Being a hard *ss works in college because of turnover every three to four years. Yelling and public humiliation will grate on players after three or four years in the pros (see Bill Parcells and Larry Brown NBA) so either the coach leaves or the team gets turned over. In the Bucs and Jon Grudens case, the team has turned over with just three players, Brooks, Barber and Kelly, left over from the team that won the SB in 2002. It's not a bad thing having a young, fast defense, sprinkled with veterans. Gruden also has his veteran QB who can run his complicated playbook. There are a few guys who actually benefit from the coach being a task master or they stand up to the coach and take their respect as Garcia has. The D is run by Monte Kiffen and he also helps select D players. Keep your eye on Rudd and Phillips this Sunday for some hard hits. I expect a closer game than most predict.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.
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by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2007 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok
I just don't understand your way of posing arguments or making statements. You make a single point, then bring it 100 other things that are totally irrelevant to the topic at hand and try to use that to make yourself look smart. No one cares about the Bucs turnover since Gruden is there. We are not Bucs fans.
by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2007 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
I don't know as much about the Colt as it's fans, but I do know about the Bucs. What else am I to talk about? Maybe coaching styles?
You are playing the Bucs this week; if you don't want to read a Bucfans point of view on things, don't read my diary.
by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gaggag
by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2007 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gag on this
Do you know anything about football? I haven't heard it yet.
Is that your best comeback? Your first comment to me was "I don't want to waste my time replying" You sure are wasting a lot of time and not saying a damm thing.
Tell ME something I don't know
I was trying to give some insight to the Bucs, what are you bringing to the dance princess, besides your high heels and your weed?
by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jiastijat
Too bad for you, I'm not even replying to your intended discussion, whatever that is, in the first place. I replying to your ignorance in not understanding what I'm saying.
There's nothing for me to add my take on. You said nothing remotely interesting or unique on about the upcoming game, nor about either of those coaches. So what exactly am I supposed to contribute other than "yeah thats right."
I know enough about football.
Comeback? What do you want me to do, resort to name-calling like you? Ok then poopie pants.
You don't know what you are talking about. That's something you obviously don't know.
Like I've said 5829892865 times before, you didn't give us any insight we didn't already know.
by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2007 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also..
by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2007 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please
I just playing defense here, you started.
by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
negatory
by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2007 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proof
Your reply "Alright, considering your argument jumped around and was very presumptuous, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you"
Was that some sort of compliment?
You have criticized and insulted every post I have made since.
What are you talking about?
You certainly can dish it out, but you don't take it very well.
If you reply to this, please make it about football.
by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2007 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
High and Mighty
You have criticized everything I have written, that is an insult.
It is called passive aggressive behavior. Sure you have not used derogatory terms, but read all your posts; you know you were insulting all my comments.
You were acting holier than thou, hence the King Dick.
Don't play that "I didn't insult you BS", save that BS for your girlfriend or wife.
If you call my posts stupid as you just did, that is an insult, expect something back.
Are you King of the message boards, Dick?
by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are pathetic
Do you promise you won't post again and say absolutly nothing like you have since I arrived on this board.
Why are you telling me to shut up? This is my diary, numbskull.
by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I came here to talk football
I have yet to hear one bit of football from the King besides.
Is he always like this?
Does he know about the game or is he the board critic?
by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Man There's a Beverage Here!
Now allow me to say that you are welcome here Bucsfan and we appreciate your posts. Please don't take The King personally. He is good friends with my former roommate and a really solid guy. He can come across a bit rough sometimes, but we love him all the same.
As for Gruden I have never been a fan of his. The way he has handled players like Keenan McCardell, really has hurt the Bucs position in this league. A lot of players don't want to play for Gruden.
by MasterRWayne on Oct 6, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think..
I was on here all last year and then the off season. Nothing close to this has happened. We get two Bucs fans that act like this. This isn't intelligent football discussion, they have fucked the whole board up and I would have banned both of them.
At least Terry has a brain and doesn't attack people and reply on every damn post.
I think I'm going to bug out until after the Bucs game. Maybe by then the mosquitos will have gone back to Tampa.
by will on Oct 6, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK
by Bucsfan on Oct 6, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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