Week Four: Denver Broncos at Indianapolis Colts- Open Thread

by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 10:30 AM EDT in Game Threads

Denver Broncos (2-1) at Indianapolis Colts (3-0)

Week Four: Denver Broncos at Indianapolis Colts

Location: RCA Dome Indianapolis, IN

Kick-off time: 4:15 pm ET

Broadcast: CBS

Key Injuries: Rookies Roy Hall and Clint Session are OUT. This is a big blow to the special teams coverage units, which are already bad. Hall in particular has looked good on ST. The positive is Rob Morris is back at SAM. He's been out for two weeks. Rocky Boiman and Tyjuan Hagler will go back to special teams duties full time. This may, hopefully, stem the loss of Hall and Session this week.

As always, TheSportsGuru and the rabid Broncos fans over at Mile High Report have done a great job blogging up to this game. Check out his report and his college football football report.

Speaking of college, WHAT A SATURDAY! Purdue is 4-0 (MasterRWayne boos from behind his monitor) and IU is 3-1 with a win over Iowa (MasterRWayne cheers like a wet USC cheerleader). Speaking of USC, Washington almost knocked off them off yesterday. Auburn beat Florida. Kansas State smacked around the Texas Vince Youngs... er, Longhorns for the second year in a row. Cal walked into Oregon took a dump on the ducks. The list of upsets is endless. For a complete breakdown of all the great Saturday upsets, visit the man himself, SMQ, at Sunday Morning QB. SMQ is the best college blogger on the planet, period.

But back to the real men that play PROFESSIONAL football, this game features two teams that are very familiar with each other even though they do not play in the same division. It seems every year the Colts play the Broncos. Since 2003, the Colts have played the Broncos in the regular season three out of five seasons, and if you include the playoffs they've played seven times in five years. That's almost like playing a division foe. Because of this, today's match-up is indeed a big game. To be honest, all games the Colts play are big games. There just aren't any more gimmes. Maybe there never were.

That said, here's to a good, clean game with no injuries. I'm tired of seeing fine players carted off the field on stretchers. Let's see some football, and Go Colts!

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Purdue

Purdue is now 5 and 0, and Notre Dame is 0 and 5! haha. Illinios is also leading the Big Ten!!! What type of crazy upside down world is this?

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions

no one cares about purdue!!!!

ever

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions

i'm sorry beester

but who do you root for again?

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions

no one cares about purdue!!!!

ever!

HOO
HOO
HOO
HOOSIERS!!!

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions

haha

yeahh.

IU football, experience the mediocrity!!!

Charlie Weis Ate My Baby

by jdb on Sep 30, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

OH, we just might experience...

a Bowl game this year.
I'm sorry for the BEE word, I know that you are not into those in the year of 2007.

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions

hrm?

I hope you didn't just assume I'm a ND fan. Actually I'm a Purdue fan and they seem to know more about bowls than IU does. Purdue has won only one fewer bowls as IU has even played in.

Just sayin' :)

But hey, IU did have a great win vs. Iowa this weekend. Looking forward to seeing them have a solid season. just... a game or two worse than Purdue ;)

Charlie Weis Ate My Baby

by jdb on Sep 30, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions

True...true

Look out for the Illini, they're our only loss, and they just beat PennST.

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

the broncos

should be 0-3.
cutler is not a smart person.
travis henry will probably have a decent day.
they never have a pass rush.
dre bly bites easily.
brandon marshall is a future #1.
however,
this will be a blowout.

by portlandcoltsfan on Sep 30, 2007 3:01 PM EDT reply actions

very...

nice prediction

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions

oops NFL.com

They misspelled Peyton on the front page,

Broncos vs. Colts Preview
Payton Manning and the undefeated Colts take on the talented Broncos secondary in Week 4.

by shake n bake on Sep 30, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions

Travis Henry

still owns the Colts...

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 4:19 PM EDT reply actions

Your purdue...

still hasn't won a national championship!!!

b-ball that is

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Tackles

Colts defense isn't tackling well. Going for the big hit too much.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

Bag of tricks

Denver pulling out all kinds of tricks.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 4:36 PM EDT reply actions

This looks familiar

the Colts defense cannot stop the run and we have to come back from behind to win.

I still don't know why we dont' have more formations with Gonzo in.

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

Denver

The Broncos are coming out in run formations, and for some reason the Colts think they will pass out of them. Soon, Colts defense will calm down and get the run under control. Offense needs to score here after good return and Denver penalty.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 4:43 PM EDT reply actions

Not Good

I have never seen Marvin stay down like that, that is not good...well maybe I will get my wish and see Gonzo a bit more. I didn't want it like that though...

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 4:45 PM EDT reply actions

whew

there he goes, right back in and catches the ball!

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

out

and he's back out again...what's going on???

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Test game

This is one of those "test games" where it isn't a division game, and the visiting team feels the world is against them. Remember, Denver is coming off a bad loss to the Jags. They want to show the world they are for real.

BTW, Marvin is back in the game.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 4:47 PM EDT reply actions

yeah

I agree. They can only do so many trick running plays and all that jazz before it comes back to bite them in the end. I'm not worried.

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Sep 30, 2007 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions

TD Addai

Wow. Amazing TD run!

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions

Addai TD!

That was his best run of the year, possible his career. How many tackles did he just run through there? Like 4?

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 4:52 PM EDT reply actions

TJ Rushing

TJ doing well today returning kicks.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply actions

Wow

TD Clark! Manning was going to get sacked, and made a tremendous throw.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply actions

Freddie

Freddie KO tackles Henry in the backfield. I think it's the first time Henry has been tackled all game.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 5:24 PM EDT reply actions

Rob Morris

Is done for the year. That's a broken leg if I've ever seen one.

by BSanders37 on Sep 30, 2007 5:42 PM EDT reply actions

eh?

Didn't look like that to me. I'm pretty sure it's an ACL or MCL tear. Seems to be pretty rampant this year.

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Sep 30, 2007 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Damn

I only got to the game right now. Shit. Couldn't my girlfriend's mother find another day to be sick?

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 30, 2007 5:52 PM EDT reply actions

TD

Oh man, great timing! :)

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 30, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply actions

INT

Marlin Jackson. Great anticipation.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

That's right

Put the game in Cutler's hands. Take away their run game and make them pass the ball.

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions

Dallas Clark

Clark and the TEs are killing Denver.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 6:06 PM EDT reply actions

MVP

MVP of the game will be Addai. He is having a monster game!

OH yeah, they should just go ahead and change Clark's position from TE to a WR, he lines up out there more anyway.

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 6:06 PM EDT reply actions

Great touch son!

by ArchieManning on Sep 30, 2007 6:06 PM EDT reply actions

you will lose

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Huh????

by ArchieManning on Sep 30, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions

your team, that is...

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions

My teams are the

Colts, Saints and Giants.

by ArchieManning on Oct 1, 2007 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh man

Addai down, hope its not serious.

by oscarx21 on Sep 30, 2007 6:34 PM EDT reply actions

Tony Ugoh

Tremendous run blocking on 20 yard run by Keith.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 6:35 PM EDT reply actions

TD Reggie

Marched right down the field. Methodical drive; great route by Wayne; TD.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 6:37 PM EDT reply actions

Announcer

"It just wouldn't be an Indy-Denver game without a Reggie Wayne TD" classic

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions

TD

Manning now has 3 TD passes on this game. I hope this make people talk a little bit more about his season.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 30, 2007 6:37 PM EDT reply actions

well there goes my MVP award

He won't be back in the game, but Keith is running really hard 7 rushes for 61 yards at this point.

Also Sanders has a bruised rib, Marvin abruised Knee, Addai has the same, and Morris something with his leg...

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 6:52 PM EDT reply actions

LUKE

Luke Lawton just carried the football.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 6:52 PM EDT reply actions

Freeney

Sack. Fumble. Awesome.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 30, 2007 7:04 PM EDT reply actions

4-0

How good is that?

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 30, 2007 7:08 PM EDT reply actions

Running Backs and Injuries

Our Running backs had a great game. Addai had over 100 yards rushing. Keith almost got there as and in the process he got much valuable experience and we can see what he is capable of doing. Luke got a couple carries as well and I swear I heard the stadium yell "LLLUUUKKKKEEE" when he carried it.

Second to our running backs injuries were a major part of the game. Marvin, Addai, Morris, and Sanders didn't (or hardly) played in the second half. A swift recovery to all of them.

And thirdly Dallas Clark is really should be considered the best TE in the league and this game proved it. Two TD catches, and amazing catches at that.

by MarkV0327 @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 7:11 PM EDT reply actions

Witten is much better

better numbers, better blocker

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Sep 30, 2007 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions

That's exactly what I was thinking...

How much better Jason Witten is than Dallas Clark, hahahahahahhahahahahahahahah........

Terry, why don't you just go ahead and root for your Steelers. Be done with your bandwagon crush on the Cowboheeees

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Witten is better....

aohoadfoajdofphas./vnzsopfiauwof, I can't even spell it's that funny. aowdfjlaskjfoadjfao;

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on Sep 30, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions

again

No one on this green Earth thinks Witten is better than Clark except Cowboys fans. Dallas Clark is, right now, THE best TE in football. Witten is a very fine TE, but no where near as much a difference maker as Clark is.

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by Brad Wells on Oct 1, 2007 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions

BBS

you and all these idiotic Colts homers are the only people on the green earth that think Clark is better than Witten, he's 10 times the difference maker Clark is.

Any rational, objective football person knows that Witten is much better, its soooooo obvious.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Oct 1, 2007 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions

and to prove me right

go ahead and create a poll for the entie SB Nation, Witten will easily come out on top.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Oct 1, 2007 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions

numbers

Okay so you can't really quantify blocking. But let's look at the numbers.

Clark
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Games: 55
Receptions/Game: 2.44
Yards/Game: 32.60
TD/Game: .291
Catches for 20+ yards/Game: .53
Catches for 40+ yards/Game: .11
Catches for First Down/Game: 1.65
Fumbles: 2

Witten
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Games: 67
Receptions/Game: 4.06
Yards/Game: 46.90
TD/Game: .254
Catches for 20+ yards/Game: .52
Catches for 40+ yards/Game: .03
Catches for First Down/Game: 2.30
Funbles: 2

Soooooo..... Witten is a bit better in total yardage, but Clark is better in the long passing game and at scoring touchdowns. Wow, so clearly better. You sure proved us wrong! /sarcasm

Honestly, I'd call the stats a tossup but give the edge to Clark in his versatility and ability to play nearly every position on offense except QB.

Charlie Weis Ate My Baby

by jdb on Oct 1, 2007 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions

this season Witten will blow away

Clark's numbers

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Oct 1, 2007 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

hah

you so funny, Terry. You make an assertion, i put up numbers refuting it, so you just make a different assertion.

Is it physically possible for you to EVER admit being wrong?

Charlie Weis Ate My Baby

by jdb on Oct 1, 2007 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm not wrong

as Clarks career numbers aren't better than Wittens.

numbers don't determine who's better anyway, as numbers can say anything you want them to say.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Oct 1, 2007 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions

own words

"Witten is much better

better numbers, better blocker

by Terry on Sun Sep 30, 2007 at 08:50:26 PM EDT "

Which is it Terry?

Charlie Weis Ate My Baby

by jdb on Oct 2, 2007 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions

he's better anyway you want to look at it.

To me, numbers isn't the only thing you look at when determing who's better because numbers can be misleading, however, in this case Witten's numbers are just as good as Clark's and like I said, he's much more complete because he can actually block as well.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Oct 2, 2007 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions

blocking

I've really gotta disagree on the blocking but since that can't be quantified (at least not by the statistics that nfl.com posts) it will become a pointless argument of "uh huh!" and "nuh uh!"

I would argue that Clark is far more versatile than Witten, being able to play every position on offense except OL and QB (and we haven't seen him throw a pass yet ;) heh).

I'm not knocking Witten. I think he's an excellent TE. But to say he's so superior to Clark is pretty homerish. I'd honestly place Clark and Witten as 2a and 2b in the league next to Gates.

Charlie Weis Ate My Baby

by jdb on Oct 2, 2007 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions