Colts will face Redskins in HoF game

by Brad Wells on Feb 11, 2008 2:44 PM EST in Colts News

I'm happy Art Monk finally made the HoF. The fact that Michael Irvin, one of the most over-rated players of his generation, got in before Monk knocks the Pro Football Hall of Fame down a few sports in my book. Monk set records, won Super Bowls, and went about his business like a professional. Irvin snorted cocaine, acted like an idiot on the field, and was pretty much an embarrassment to himself and his team all throughout his career. In many ways, Irvin ushered in the me-first generation of wide receivers (T.O., Chad Johnson, Keyshawn, etc.). All the while, Irvin couldn't carry Art Monk's jock.

By whatever, Art is finally in. It is well deserved, and Redskins fans are happy.

On August 3rd, the Redskins and the Colts will play the first pre-season game of the 2008 season in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Game in Canton, OH; the day Art Monk and others are inducted into the Hall. The Redskins will debut new head coach Jim Zorn that day.

For us Colts fans, the season starts a little early. This likely means Training Camp will start early for 2008.

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Not the greatest of news

Sure training camp kicks off earlier, but it's also one extra pre-season game that a key player could injure themselves in.

by torontocoltsfan on Feb 11, 2008 5:43 PM EST reply actions

agreed..

I agree about Monk finally getting in (ridiculous he wasn't voted in first ballot) and shows how stupid the media people are who vote.

by Rob L on Feb 11, 2008 5:46 PM EST reply actions

I'm Nervous Yet Excited

Anytime the season can start sooner, I'm happy. An earlier chance to go to training camp and another chance for the Colts to get into a groove and establish some quality backups. However, it is also another game where a star can get injured. I think Dungy is careful enough to keep his players out of a dangerous situation. This also gives us a chance to play 25 games (5 preseason, 16 regular season, 4 postseason), a feat that I do not believe has been done before.

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by Colts Homer on Feb 11, 2008 10:39 PM EST reply actions

you're clueless BBS

Irvin was clearly a better receiver than Monk, easily one of the top 5 WRs of all time.

His personality and off the field attics have nothing to do with his dominating play on the field.

I guess in your book Ty Cobb was overrated because he was an asshole on and off the field. That kind of thinking is just ridiculous.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Feb 12, 2008 9:38 AM EST reply actions

hahaha

Art Monk:
16 seasons (14 with Washington, 1 with Jets, 1 with Eagles)
Stats - 940 recs, 12721 yds, 68 tds
All-rookie in 1980, 3-time pro-bowler, 2-time all-pro, 2-time Super Bowl winner
First player to eclipse 900 receptions, as well as retiring with the single season reception record, and the most consecutive games with a catch.

Michael Irvin:
12 seasons
Stats - 750 recs, 11904 yds, 65 tds
5-time pro bowler, 3-time Super Bowl winner
No records set outside of the Cowboys franchise records.

From the looks of it, Art Monk is winning.

by KingRichard on Feb 12, 2008 10:08 AM EST up reply actions

because he played longer?? hardly

If Irvin doesn't sustain a career ending injury in 1999, his stats blow away Monks.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Feb 12, 2008 10:20 AM EST up reply actions

ojojasgjsagd

If ififififififififififi

Hypotheticals don't count.

by KingRichard on Feb 12, 2008 10:24 AM EST up reply actions

people do it all the time

with Barry Sanders, Jim Brown and Gale Sayers. If hypotheticals don't count then I guess you'll have to admit Emmitt is the greatest of all time.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Feb 12, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions

fggasjg

What the hell are you talking about? Support your arguments for once instead of just spewing crap out of your mouth.

by KingRichard on Feb 12, 2008 9:40 PM EST up reply actions

I just did, I can't help that

you're incapble of logical thinking, not my fault Dick.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Feb 13, 2008 8:38 AM EST up reply actions

wtf

You didn't provide any support to your argument. Only a hypothetical "if" which means nothing. It's not that I'm supposedly "incapble of logical thinking," moreso that you are incapable constructing an argument out side of, "Durrr yer wrong BBS because anyone who has ever been on the cowboys is greater than anyone else evarrrr duurrr."

by KingRichard on Feb 13, 2008 8:58 AM EST up reply actions

well, sorry for assuming you could

put 2 and 2 together to get 4, but obviously you can't so I'll spell it out to you.

You first argued that Monk was better than Irvin using career stats. My counter argument was that if Irvin played as long as Monk his stats would obviously be better. You countered by saying you can't use hypotheticals, so I said, sure you can because everyone does it when they argue Jim Brown, Gale Sayers or Barry Sanders as the best ever back because IF those backs played long enough they would have the most rushing yardage, not Emmitt.

Capish!

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Feb 13, 2008 12:07 PM EST up reply actions

The problem with Terry

is that even in his contrasting argument, he believes that the Cowboys player is the best both times. The fact that people argue hypotheticals to claim that Barry Sanders is better than Emmitt Smith (which Terry does not believe to be true) is Terry's basis for arguing that Irvin is better than Monk. He argues that if argument A can use a point to exalt someone over a Cowboys player, then argument B can use the same point to exalt one of his boys over another. In the end, though, Terry won't concede that using the argument for him validates the argument against his team.

Why? Because in either scenario logic is only a convenience to support one's homerism. Bottom line, BBS is right. Monk is more deserving than Irvin.

by coltsfanawalt on Feb 13, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions

Oh, and

Barry Sanders is better than Emmitt Smith.

by coltsfanawalt on Feb 13, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions

only as a pure runner, not as a true back

there is a big difference you know.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Feb 13, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions

I obviously disagree

and so do the HOF voters.

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Feb 13, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions

Same HOF voters who voted Namath in

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by Colts Homer on Feb 13, 2008 6:10 PM EST up reply actions

Lol

by coltsfanawalt on Feb 13, 2008 7:05 PM EST up reply actions

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by JBforHOF on Feb 12, 2008 4:40 PM EST reply actions